huhu....
i brought mimie to wathc littleman last week or last two weeks...not remember...ahaha
she only crab at the time i went into the cinema for once and then, i put my hand to the pouch and she stay there quietly untill the movie end...ahahaha...
when she crab, orang sebelah can dengar but they donno what sound is it...

Say that you forgot to silent your handphone.

Well Roscoe and Rene only crabbed at the mamak the other night when a bunch of people they don't know stick their faces up to the cage.

Speaking of clean ups. Their cage really stinks! Even after changing the bedding it stinks! The only think that helps curb the smell is to wash everything in soap and hot water. Anyone know what contributes to the smell? Sometimes they smell all musky.

Also the other day I had to wipe a whole load of crap right at the corner of the branch. Amazes me that they can poop so much on a high slightly sharp branch, right at the tip.

Yeah, my glider's cage smelled musky too yesterday and...I don't know -- mebbe a little fishy too But it wasn't the glider -- it was the branch. Sometimes he pees on it. What I did was I left it out in the sun for a few hours, together with the coconut shell and I gave the cage a good wipedown and all is fine now. The males might be marking at the branch la. Cause man, the branch sure did stink. Well, not as bad as hamsters but it wasn't a pleasant smell What this means is I'm going to have to sun the branch every few days or so. I don't want it to become infested with god knows what. I'll probably change the branch every three months or so -- the coconut shell just as well.

And well, with male gliders -- as they grow older -- they'll smell different that's to be expected

This post has been edited by misa: Sep 20 2006, 06:12 PM

so .. every animal oso smelly ler ...

very hard to rare lo ... smell here and there ...
if u r partner dun like the smell .. mah mati

No, no please don't misunderstand gliders don't smell bad at all. They're the best smelling animals I've ever had hehe it's just that I tend to notice when there's a change but for a lot of people, it's unnoticeable even. but one thing though, gliders are not easy to care for -- what with their special dietary needs hehe. now i know that i wouldn't recommend getting a glider to just about anyone. having one is just like taking care of a little baby

This post has been edited by misa: Sep 20 2006, 06:49 PM

hi hi! I read from the first few posts (very informative btw! tq! tq! ) that I can feed my SG raisins.. But it also says that canned foods should be avoided since they contain extra salt and sugar.

So would I be able to feed my SG raisins off the shelf from the supermarket? Right now I'm looking at the small box of Ligo California seedless raisins.

Would it be okay to feed that to my SG? Or can someone recommend a brand of raisins?

khairizha, u finnaly acn tamed ur SG already?

btw SG also can fed with cat or dog food.

in US they do hv special food jz made for them

California Raisins! The one in the red box!

hi all,

advise needed. I bought the glider few days ago...fully grown adult..
they smell stink...and their fur is dirty...how to bath em ?
izzit correct to use water spray to spray @ them n use a hair dryer?

they seems shivering...is tht their nature or they are scared?
if I keep on try to play n try to tame em...how do I knw they are stress?



This post has been edited by nugget: Sep 21 2006, 12:27 AM

can I follow the diet or the vege that use by this link ?
www.greenigsociety.org <---there is a vege list n wheter it r staple anot....but it is for iguana...wonder it suites the glider ?

what time should I feed them ? morning or evening ?

This post has been edited by nugget: Sep 21 2006, 12:28 AM

No, no please do not bath them. And do not hairdry them either -- their ears are very sensitive to heat and it'll get burnt. Buy some baby wipes from the store and wipe them with those. They usually groom themselves. Just give them some time to get used to the new environment and you. You can help them by wiping their fur with the baby wipes. If they're still not accustom to you, it's alright, just keep their cage clean and go slowly. Don't try to to give them a shower or they might be afraid of you for good and never bond to you. You need patience when handling these gentle creatures. Never force them out or do something they don't want to do.

They're shivering most likely because they're a little scared right now. Take it slow. Feed them. Talk to them from next to the cage. They'll recognize your voice soon enough and understand that you're not there to harm them.

Here's a good article on how to bond with your gliders --> http://www.sugargliderinfo.com/Bonding/

I'm going to start using the BML diet for my glider. Here's a link.

http://www.sugargliderinfo.com/NutritionAn...s/leadbeat.html

It might look difficult, but gliders have special dietary needs. Not feeding them enough of one thing or feeding them too much of something else can lead to health problems = death. Also, you might want to get in touch with crazymouse on the forum if you're not going to work on your own glider mix -- she has a special glider mix available that you can purchase.

I feed my glider with the glider mix + frozen veggies (2 corns, 2 peas, 2 green beans, 2 carrots) + 2 different types of fruits (small pieces of either the following fruits --> Apples, Grapes, Watermelon, Cantalope, Melon, Frozen Pitted Cherries & Blueberries).

Other stuff that can be fed (but don't overdo it with the quantity) --> pineapple, peaches, apples, pears, strawberries, banana, cantaloupe, honeydew, melons, grapes, papaya, apricots, oranges, corn, sweet potatoes, squash, fruit juices, blueberries, dried fruit, fruit jams, assorted baby foods, low-fat deli turkey and ham, raisins, carrots, mealworms, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, dried peas.

There are a few proven diets on the net that can be followed. I'm going to use the BML diet. You stick to the BML mix + frozen veggies (2 corns, 2 peas, 2 green beans, 2 carrots) + 2 different types of fruits (small pieces of either the following fruits --> Apples, Grapes, Watermellon, Cantalope, Melon, Frozen Pitted Cherries & Blueberries). And you don't add anything else to it so it won't throw off the ratio.

Here's the Nutritional Analysis for the BML Diet:

Proximates:
Water: 528.33 g
Energy: 1053.19 kcal
Protein: 37.3925 g
Fat: 21.3 g
Ash: 4.82875 g
Carbohydrates: 196.541 g
Fiber, total dietary: 4.365 g

Minerals:
Calcium: 419.99 mg [DOES NOT INCLUDE REPCAL]
Iron: 15.083 mg
Magnesium: 160.95 mg
Phosphorous: 679.38 mg
Potassium: 953.925 mg
Sodium: 187.64 mg
Zinc: 7.086 mg
Manganese: 3.982 mg
Selenium: 59.705 mcg
Vitamin C, total ascorbic acid: 44.5015 mg
Thiamin: 1.5 mg
Riboflavin: 1.269 mg
Niacin: 13.26 mg
Vitamin B6: .927 mg
Folate, total: 130.967 mcg
Vitamin B-12: 1.439 mg
Vitamin A: 422.02 IU
Vitamin E: 1.243 mg

I feel its easier to stick to the BML diet, it's a proven diet that is being used by many sugar glider owners and it takes away the stress of thinking about what fruits to purchase (from the many many many different types of fruits available) and whether it's good enough for the glider.

Here's how I feed my glider -->

Morning -- 4 small mealworms
Afternoon -- small pieces of fruit (maybe an apple or some melon -- cube size)
Night -- glider mix + veggies + fruits

You can feed them with some yoghurt (using your finger) to help with the bonding process. But with the BML diet, you don't need any additional fruits and stuff because you might throw off the ratio. They sleep for most of the day anyways.

This post has been edited by misa: Sep 21 2006, 01:02 AM

Mine only eat big meals in the middle of the night. So here's my diet.

Monday : Banana flavor gerber baby food + Vitamin & Calcium powder
Tuesday : Apple + Pear
Wednesday : Watermelon + Jambu air
Thursday : Honeydew + Carrot juice + Magic Powder
Friday : Iams cat biscuits for infants
Saturday : whatever fruit I can find, sometimes kuachi
Sunday : Banana flavor gerber baby food + Vitamin & Calcium powder

Edit : Nearly forgot - 4-6 mealworms each when they are out playing

This post has been edited by suiteng: Sep 21 2006, 09:21 AM

Do not bath.... do not ever attempt to bath using hose or water spray.... if you do not do it correctly, can die from cold... also, hair dryer is big NO NO... I saw before glider dried by hair dryer... the ears so badly burned... injured and so painful. It can burn till look like no ears at all.

Adult glider, takes longer time to tame. You cannot just put your hand inside and simply touch it, might give heart attack. Also, some may bite if they feel threaten. They shiver, they are scared, they crab, they are angry and scared of you...

In case anyone is interested in the different diets available for gliders, here are some links to it -->

Bourbons Modified Leadbeaters Diet (BML)
http://www.shropshire-exotics.co.uk/Glider...ets/bourbon.htm

Pockets Modified Leadbeaters (PML)
http://www.shropshire-exotics.co.uk/Glider...ets/pockets.htm

Priscilla Price's Sugar Glider Diet
http://www.shropshire-exotics.co.uk/sgliders3.htm

Caroline MacPherson's Sugar Glider Diet
http://www.shropshire-exotics.co.uk/Glider...ets/mcphers.htm

Suncoast Sugar Glider Diet
http://www.shropshire-exotics.co.uk/Glider...ts/suncoast.htm

This post has been edited by misa: Sep 21 2006, 06:53 PM

hahaha,,,actually i still dont bring cimon n cici out cause they still afraid when i want to take them...but they not crab or bite....
the one that i brought to the movie is their baby which came out last two and a half months ......

the older ones not jealous meh you bring the baby out but not them?

wow...means that I have to make it a time table.. Iwork long hour n airport...wonder if it can like skip meal for a day or else...thanks for all the food info ya guys...really do enlight my blur...going back homtown later...hope it wont starve to death....

Aiks I won't be so nice like Misa to say my critters smells like - ok. Because they are smelly!!! But I do take into consideration that any human or animal will smell if they sleep in cage with their own dispose smeared on them. So yes I consider their smelliness reassuring to an extent!

I do not wash my SGs or wipe them. I will only do so if they have a bit of food or poop stuck on their fur. Otherwise they are very clean and know how to groom themselves.

And that Rene has taken to biting just for the heck of it! She bite when she is sitting on me, or climbing all over me. And she actually bites really hard! For no reason at all! In fact I only brought her out of her cage when she insisted on it. I don't understand... How to stop the biting?

You have to feed them everyday. Not feeding them for just one day will stress them out and it'll be bad for their health. Maybe someone can help to babysit them for you. Please ask around. These gliders need loads of care and attention. They're different from any other animals.


Tell her nooooo! Everytime she does it just say NOOOO! And then after a while she will get the idea that everytime she bites she'll hear that annoying NOOOO! Hehe. Try la. But there are very curious animals la -- they're always biting to test test and see whether edible or not. Mine likes to groom me these days. And he'll take a nibble of my skin la but it doesn't hurt because he's not really biting down on it.

This post has been edited by misa: Sep 22 2006, 12:23 PM