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post Sep 24 2006, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Sep 21 2006, 09:20 AM)
Mine only eat big meals in the middle of the night. So here's my diet.

Monday : Banana flavor gerber baby food + Vitamin & Calcium powder
Tuesday : Apple + Pear
Wednesday : Watermelon + Jambu air
Thursday : Honeydew + Carrot juice + Magic Powder
Friday : Iams cat biscuits for infants
Saturday : whatever fruit I can find, sometimes kuachi
Sunday : Banana flavor gerber baby food + Vitamin & Calcium powder

Edit : Nearly forgot - 4-6 mealworms each when they are out playing
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may I have the name for the calcium powder,vitamin?
what is magic powder ?
JB dunno where can get...
(I do have calcium n vitamin powder for reptile...can use on gliders arr?)
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QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 24 2006, 07:46 PM)
I have a few question :

1st I notice sg do poop n pee alot in what ever place u prepare for them be it coconut shell or hiding hole...how u guys tolerate that? change the hiding hole often?

2nd any1 know bout this stuff "moringa" its leaf have lot of nutrition...but wonder it suites SG

3rd if u keep them in pocket while they sleep...u keep in pairs or each a polket ?

edit 1 more question

4th.this is d second day the new pair of glider in my cage...feed them carrot=dowan orange=dowan apple=yes papaya=yes...
should I start make them glider mix or...go slow...I scared they are not enuff vitamin lar
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1) You can try laying a piece of newspaper on the floor of the cage -- don't cover the whole floor la -- just half of it. The SG's might poop and pee there instead. I lay out a piece of A4 paper for my SG and he steps onto the edge of the paper and poos and pees down to his waste area. But with SGs, the one thing about them is that they can't be toilet trained. You might get lucky though (like with mine - he doesn't poo/pee in the coconut shell/pouch).

2) I wouldn't try feeding them anything that isn't listed as glider safe to be eaten. The thing about gliders is that they're pretty hardy animals, in that -- they don't get sick. But their dietary requirements is pretty hard to take care of and feeding them the wrong thing will give them a tummy upset which might cause serious problems for 'em. You should read up about gliders on the internet. Here's a good site:

http://www.critterhut.com/gliderknowledge.htm

3) With regards to the pocket issue, if it's big enough for them and if they're comfortable, they'll be able to stay inside of it -- it's up to them, really. I suggest you get a bonding pouch and carry them with you in the pouch -- it's available at Scales & Tails or Pet Safari. Or you can get a simple drawstring pouch from the 100Yen store or pasar malam -- just be sure that it's breathable and that there aren't any loose strings inside where they can get their nails stuck to or that they can chew on and choke. Also -- do watch out, they might escape so I would suggest that you get a proper bonding pouch at the pet store -- one that's meant for SGs but even then -- they are known to escape and open zippers, etc.

4) Making a glider mix is good because you would be able to supplement them with calcium and protein. If you're finding it hard to make your own glider mix as some of the ingredients are hard to find (ie: chicken baby good for the BML) you might want to contact crazymouse on the forum. She has a few different glider mix that you can purchase from her that you could try feeding to your SGs.

The calcium and vitamin supplements are called --> Rep-Cal HERPTIVITE vitamin supplement, Rep-Cal calcium supplement. You can get these from Pets Wonderland, or maybe Pet Safari, Scales & Tails or Natural Aquatic.

And don't forget the mealworms!

This post has been edited by misa: Sep 24 2006, 09:53 PM
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post Sep 24 2006, 10:12 PM

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I guess that's the problem with a lot of people with no time to do research and responsible enough to keep their glider in the cage. With little common sense, u should know since you bought them wild, that they are wild gliders and definitely have tendencies to escape if given the chance. Even a 4 year old kid will know if you open the door of the bird cage, the bird will fly away.....

how very sad indeed.....

Can't resist the "cute" joey they selling and just buy on impulse!!!

I had the privilege to witness this young and naive girl who bought a glider from Pet Safari. I do not think that the joey will survive because this young lady seemed really oblivious and clueless about SGs. She do not even dare to hold on to the joey for more than 10 mins. I made a prayer for that joey because she intends to feed it the glider pellet sold at the shop also.

And she bought the smallest bird cage to house the poor joey.... rclxub.gif rclxms.gif .....what can be more perfect than that!!?

The sad thing is, I do not think those people working in Pet Safari is educated in the first place. They just sell and do not even know that there are stuff like SG Mix and they need to be in pairs. If they know, the least they could do is educate potential buyers....

MALAYSIA BOLEH, APA PUN BOLEH!!!!


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QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 22 2006, 04:36 PM)
how much chance to a pair of glider that made a great escape to back to their cage ? hahahaha....

not even three days...kiss goodbye to rm350...if I know I would have bought baby n tame 1....realy assssss.....
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post Sep 24 2006, 10:22 PM

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Hi, I wanna ask u all. Is there a problem if a sg eats its own poop? I saw mine eating his. Does this mean his lack of nutrition? Its very yucky and I'm afraid the poop will make him sick. Any help????
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QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 24 2006, 08:34 PM)
may I have the name for the calcium powder,vitamin?
what is magic powder ?
JB dunno where can get...
(I do have calcium n vitamin powder for reptile...can use on gliders arr?)
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u can use a lot of diffrent type. u can use reptical, or sera reptimenrelC. JBL also has their own calcium powder.

anyways. new batch of Slurp for gliders Coming soon. PM for info.
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hi guyss!! just bought this cute sugar glider(2 and half month i think) yesterday at ss19...he still scared..but at 2 am this morning so active..just wondering,how long it takes to tame them?for now i just feeed him with apple and carrot...later after work only i will buy him mealworm..
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QUOTE(dananmy @ Sep 24 2006, 10:22 PM)
Hi, I wanna ask u all. Is there a problem if a sg eats its own poop? I saw mine eating his. Does this mean his lack of nutrition? Its very yucky and I'm afraid the poop will make him sick. Any help????
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Mine doesn't eat their poop shocking.gif Not sure what make them do that...

QUOTE(i4u @ Sep 25 2006, 09:30 AM)
hi guyss!! just bought this cute sugar glider(2 and half month i think) yesterday at ss19...he still scared..but at 2 am this morning so active..just wondering,how long it takes to tame them?for now i just feeed him with apple and carrot...later after work only i will buy him mealworm..
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With patience my dear... cannot tell you how long you need. Just be patient. About feeding menu, you can browse thru the few pages of this topic as well as the first page to see the food we are feeding them. Welcome!!
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mine also eat their poop lately....
dunno why....risau a bit but dunno what to do...
i give them enough food but dunno why they still eat the poop....
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post Sep 25 2006, 05:19 PM

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bcos its yummy to eat their own poop... my boboy always eats it.. hayoo.. what to do..takkan shud see them 24/7 to monitor their poops..
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:04 PM

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Eating their own poop is ok. Won't get sick. It is a sign.... it is saying your glider got not enought vitamin B.... so to get the Vit B, it now eats its own poop to get it loh.... or it could be digestion problem and the bacteria in the poop can help.
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Phew... Thanks guys!! It scare me for a while. Coz it happen lately. Since khairizha & e1elme happen the same, then maybe is normal lah I guess... I think crazymouse is right they don't hav enought vitamin coz I've stop givin them for awhile. Hav 2 start givin already. It always happen after I gav them mealworm, Maybe He smell his own poop got mealies smell, so he think don't waste it la...ha ha ha smile.gif
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QUOTE(i4u @ Sep 25 2006, 09:30 AM)
hi guyss!! just bought this cute sugar glider(2 and half month i think) yesterday at ss19...he still scared..but at 2 am this morning so active..just wondering,how long it takes to tame them?for now i just feeed him with apple and carrot...later after work only i will buy him mealworm..
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u can try putting him in a small specticle pouch & hang him round ur neck. he can get used to ur smell & in the same time, it get use to the noisy outside world. handle when he's active, usually round dusk time is a nice way. hand feed him meal worms or slurp. in time he will learn to trust you. but always remember trust goes both ways. trust him for him to trust you. do not always scared he will run away & confine him. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mortario @ Sep 18 2006, 03:19 PM)
Hey guys, I just picked up my SG from Larkowen. So far, he's been quite nice. Just that he barks a bit at night. Any suggestions on how to help him quite down?
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larkowen sold his glider to you? doh.gif
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QUOTE(suiteng @ Sep 16 2006, 11:41 PM)
Will kena makan or not? shocking.gif
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nuh uh

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Sep 17 2006, 12:55 AM)
LOL... Kiah still likes to sleep at a certain place sweat.gif

At least Pie Pie unzip.... Kiah unzip... so I put a clip to block the zipper... then she determine to get out, so she go and chew up the bag and made a new hole below the zipper... man, she destroyed 3 bags liao... now in a nice drawstring bag I bought from 100Yen shop hehheh....

Just now brought Kiah to Izzi restaurant at Bukit Bintang hahaha.... she had a taste of ice lemon tea and had fun crawling all over me... should see those people, staring at me  tongue.gif
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use a studry material-ed bag la. the one I"m using one is denim. she can't really chew a hole in it. Donny's bag is slowly being destroyed. lol. he naughty.

Pie loves ice cream. hee hee. the other day she kena 2 drops kopi-o ping... so bloody hyper for like 10 hours. lol. jumping all over the bunk (train)

ahh.. people always stare. some even crowd and ask and take pictures. got used to it.


QUOTE(misa @ Sep 17 2006, 01:08 AM)
Wow -- I'm really amazed at those of you who have the confidence to let your gliders roam around while you're out in public. I'm so afraid that he'll run away. right now, i'm still too overprotective la  tongue.gif  hehe
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well, they like the outdoors alot in my opinion and when you really bond with them, they won't stray. they're very loyal critters. smile.gif

QUOTE(Mortario @ Sep 18 2006, 03:19 PM)
Hey guys, I just picked up my SG from Larkowen. So far, he's been quite nice. Just that he barks a bit at night. Any suggestions on how to help him quite down?
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Larkown bought a male glider from me not too long ago. if it wasn't for the fact that I saw how inquisitive of him and such and somewhat desperate to get a glider, I wouldn't have sold it to him. I'm guessing the glider he sold to you was from me. sheesh. poor lil fella. being tossed around is not good for a baby glider. did he sell you the cage and all as well? rush me so much and see what he does.

he sold the hermit crabs that he bought from me too.

QUOTE(misa @ Sep 19 2006, 12:27 PM)
Good news! He ate two mealworms this morning. I cut the heads off then he got interested in 'em. My friends were like "eew what the hell" cause we were all eating Nasi Lemak. I told them it's my new ikan bilis. laugh.gif 
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haha. we usually carry a 3cm container full of mealworms. Pie take ALOT of mealworms.

QUOTE(snx8 @ Sep 20 2006, 08:25 PM)
Would it be okay to feed that to my SG? Or can someone recommend a brand of raisins?
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raisins are fine as a treat. as long as they didn't add any sugar and other funny stuff in it, should be fine.

QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 21 2006, 12:00 AM)
hi all,

advise needed. I bought the glider few days ago...fully grown adult..
they smell stink...and their fur is dirty...how to bath em ?
izzit correct to use water spray to spray @ them n use a hair dryer?

they seems shivering...is tht their nature or they are scared?
if I keep on try to play n try to tame em...how do I knw they are stress?
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er... you can't bathe a glider. they easily catch colds. plus the hair dryer is just gonna burn them.

use baby wet wipes (fragrance and alcohol free). it's not in their "nature" to be scared. it's normal to be scared when they're introduced into a new environment especially with adult gliders that have had either too little contact with humans or have been throwned around amongst different owners.

the signs of stress can be quite scary varying from a mere constant back flips to fur pulling and feet chewing. again, you don't have to "play" with the gliders so much to tame them. just keeping them close to your body.. handfeeding.. is bonding. try your best to not poke at them when they're sleeping.

QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 22 2006, 07:38 AM)
wow...means that I have to make it a time table.. Iwork long hour n airport...wonder if it can like skip meal for a day or else...thanks for all the food info ya guys...really do enlight my blur...going back homtown later...hope it wont starve to death....
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bring your glider with you is your best bet or get a glider sitter. gliders shouldn't miss meals. I brought my glider to penang with me for holiday. sit train. no problem. a small cage does come in handy.

QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 22 2006, 04:36 PM)
how much chance to a pair of glider that made a great escape to back to their cage ? hahahaha....

not even three days...kiss goodbye to rm350...if I know I would have bought baby n tame 1....realy assssss.....
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not very high chance. they don't know their home enough to come back.

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QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 24 2006, 07:46 PM)
I have a few question :

1st I notice sg do poop n pee alot in what ever place u prepare for them be it coconut shell or hiding hole...how u guys tolerate that? change the hiding hole often?

2nd any1 know bout this stuff "moringa" its leaf have lot of nutrition...but wonder it suites SG

3rd if u keep them in pocket while they sleep...u keep in pairs or each a polket ?

edit 1 more question

4th.this is d second day the new pair of glider in my cage...feed them carrot=dowan orange=dowan apple=yes papaya=yes...
should I start make them glider mix or...go slow...I scared they are not enuff vitamin lar
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put tissues or a cloth in the hide. change often.

er... I put in a pouch.

carrots are not all that well accepted. apples most widely accepted. grapes too and rambutan. anyways, they can't live off fruits. make or buy a glider mix for them. never too young or too old for the mix.

QUOTE(nugget @ Sep 24 2006, 08:34 PM)
may I have the name for the calcium powder,vitamin?
what is magic powder ?
JB dunno where can get...
(I do have calcium n vitamin powder for reptile...can use on gliders arr?)
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calcium powder get sera (reptimineral-c for reptiles). good brand. vitamin can go for canopy small animal vitamin.

QUOTE(sangterap @ Sep 24 2006, 10:12 PM)
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how very sad indeed.....

Can't resist the "cute" joey they selling and just buy on impulse!!!

I had the privilege to witness this young and naive girl who bought a glider from Pet Safari. I do not think that the joey will survive because this young lady seemed really oblivious and clueless about SGs. She do not even dare to hold on to the joey for more than 10 mins. I made a prayer for that joey because she intends to feed it the glider pellet sold at the shop also.

And she bought the smallest bird cage to house the poor joey.... rclxub.gif  rclxms.gif .....what can be more perfect than that!!?

The sad thing is, I do not think those people working in Pet Safari is educated in the first place. They just sell and do not even know that there are stuff like SG Mix and they need to be in pairs. If they know, the least they could do is educate potential buyers....

MALAYSIA BOLEH, APA PUN BOLEH!!!!


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actually, you can advise all you want but there are loads of customers who just do not listen because they always think that they're right. so, at a point, you just get fed up. you teach them so much... blablabla... in the end, no point. it's not because sellers undereducated although I do know sellers who really couldn't be bothered. lol. a supplier got fed up with this seller I know that he told her to just feed the gliders Fuji apples. and there you go... you get sellers who go around telling people that gliders only eat fuji apples. lol.

pet stores stock up on pet food. they're not gonna tell you to make your own food when they sell a certain food. they can't tell the customer that this or that is not good. if it;s not good then why sell em yeah? and no, gliders do not have to be in pairs. I sell many gliders singly and frankly I find most of them to be much better off singly compared to many of the ones I sold in pairs because the single glider gets very attached to their owner and vice versa. they're not such a handful that the owner would get tired of them and always take for granted that the pair can entertain themselves.

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mmm... you didn't know Kiah destroyed a denim pouch? LOL.... I have to use heavy duty canvas liao.
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So cute leh... biggrin.gif Look like a sleepy baby staring at the camera.
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QUOTE(smellyocheese @ Sep 25 2006, 10:58 PM)
...no, gliders do not have to be in pairs. I sell many gliders singly and frankly I find most of them to be much better off singly compared to many of the ones I sold in pairs because the single glider gets very attached to their owner and vice versa. they're not such a handful that the owner would get tired of them and always take for granted that the pair can entertain themselves.
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Provided you have time to take care of it. Bring it everywhere you go and play with it when it is active. For a student, it shouldn't be a big problem bcoz most of the time you can still trade off the time to partner with your glider. But for working, it is different story. It is highly depend on your working environment. Not all the environment encourage you to bring along your partner to working place. Having a pair is highly recommend for those who can't sacrifice enough time with your glider.

It shouldn't be said "must" be in pair. Or totally take for granted "not" to be in pair. All boil down to personal preference of how the owner shall take care of. If the owner is not educate enough, it is always the best to recommend in pair instead of single. Being that unknown to new comer, the owner might take some time to accept the glider existence, which mean he/she would not carry the glider along them. Further more, glider lifespan is 15yrs, wouldn't the owner be with it all the time for the 15yrs? Nobody can promise it.

Well, it is always said that we can get a partner for it if the owner get bored with the glider. For the fact, introductory of partner won't be easy in adult stage. You might not get your glider to accept the partner completely. Though I would not say impossible but the possibility is there.

For the sake of headache later, it is always recommend to have in pair instead of single.

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