well theres nothing to do for you then. you cannot understand the concept of forgiveness then ranting here also wont be useful to you. i just try to help but u kept on repeating same stuff as if tht can change anything. and also actually my post is not exclusively for you. its for random people seeking answer. u r just my excuse to post something that i have in my mind hehe...

Haih I see this debate also tak mau pergi church liao

No sophiera you must go to church. Like us human church is full of errors but we must be ready to forgive the church. Doesnt mean our forgiveness can change the church nature, but we make peace with ourselves and just accept all tht flaws of the church.

Hey guys, this saturday evening 6pm we organize a gathering at Mont Kiara. We have great dinner, fun games and some short bible discussion/sharing. If interested, please PM by today. Thanks.

This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Aug 13 2014, 01:15 PM

Despite what people say,

God is still the head CEO of all his Churches.
The squabbling of his kids in churches is unavoidable.
But that is no excuse to stop you from coming to his house for Worship and Feeding of God's word.

When you go to Church, just know that you come to meet your Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, not people (really).
Despite of Church politics or problem, it doesn't stop God from working everything good and bad for ultimately your good.
That is the power of God to those who believe in Him.

I can't tell you how much I've learn something wherever I go to Church despite of it's imperfect state.
God always teaches if you're attentive.

I don't go church to meet people either (probably the other extreme) but I still feel uncomfortable. It's like Christians cannot be trusted. My dad and bro kena backstabbed the most in church.

Over wat matter? PM me.

i have a controversial question to all christian friends here

What do you think of Israel today?

Controversial. Not everything they do is right, not everything they do is wrong either.

nowday this Anti Zionism that is taking over all over the world today is formerly called anti Semitism and what Israel did today is accodring to what the scriptures has prophesies............

I honestly dont hv any hatred towards them whatsover... even when majority says they commited serious crimes.. dont know why.

if you read back the prophecy concerning Israel in the old testament especially on the prophephtic book sections ie: book of Isiah, Jeremiah and etc they tell of Israel downfall and their rises again also what would The Lord do to enable them to continue to survive in their own land because the whole part of middle east was originally belong to Israel minus Egypt

Probably where their nation now (including gaza?) was once the land of the cannanite which God had given to them. Thats as far as i know from the bible. I hvnt paid much attention to what their lands and places are and such. But the rest are deserts which are owned by the arabs right? And yes egypt.

Egypt was a ancient country which was over and over been mentioned in the bible and Egypt was not part of canaan land egypt is located at upper nile. The land of canaan is supposely to be part of syria, iraq, iran and jordan

Egypt was left out to be a witness of God mighty strength and power

as usual ... UW's post is unbiased and glorified god !

I guess the stage is starting to be set up where the nations [new generation of leaders which are more anti-US] around Israel will be hostile towards them . They will finally cry out to Jehovah at the end.

It is kinda er ... (what the feeling) that people you meet at the Temple institute believe that when the temple is built up, there will be universal peace, which is true, partly.

Second Thessalonians 2:4 also says that Antichrist “seats himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself that he is God.”

During the last three and a half years of this age, Antichrist will persecute the Jews to the uttermost, with the intention of completely destroying Israel. Prior to that time, nearly all of Israel will be brought back to the Holy Land. Then, before the tribulation, Antichrist will make a seven-year covenant of peace with Israel so that they may have their freedom. But after three and a half years, Antichrist will change his mind and will oppose every kind of religion, including Judaism and Roman Catholicism. After that, Antichrist will attempt to destroy the Jewish religion.

At the end of the last three and a half years, Antichrist will cause the armies of the nations to surround Jerusalem. With Jerusalem as the center, the entire region from Bozrah to the Mount of Megiddo (Armageddon, Rev. 16:16) will be occupied by armies. In His coming back, Christ will descend to Bozrah, and beginning there He will tread the winepress, destroying all the armies. In this way He will rescue Israel from destruction.

The Anointed of Jehovah will come to tread the winepress to save Israel from the nations (63:1-6; Rev. 14:17-20; 19:11-16, 19-21). The word winepress in Isaiah 63:2 and in Revelation 14:19-20 and 19:15 refers to the war at Armageddon. Isaiah 61 and 62 show us that Christ will come back to be so much to Israel on the positive side. Isaiah 63 reveals that in His coming back Christ will save Israel from destruction.

Then, the restoration will begin for them.

IMO.

This post has been edited by pehkay: Aug 14 2014, 08:16 AM

ALeUNe

This is the explanation.

The Imam Mahdi and the so called jesus christ of Islam is actually the Anti-Christ, the enemy.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Aug 14 2014, 11:00 AM

which means ... now is the first three years ???

Just dont go about selling all your property and expect end of time is around the corner... Lol. I saw tht many got duped last time i was still a kid.

Just relax n chill man. God will protect yall from all the miseries of the revelations. Or so i think. Hehe

This post has been edited by sonido: Aug 14 2014, 11:30 AM

No lar!!! YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHEN... the real sign is if the second temple is build up first ... which is not possible right now ... also, once it is build up, the system of Jewish worship is build up ... and when you see real peace in the Middle East due to someone .... then 7 years left.

This post has been edited by pehkay: Aug 14 2014, 12:47 PM