Yes the bible did say also better open rebuke than hidden love. I am not saying that we should be people pleaser nor conflict avoider. What I am saying is by now, we should be able to distinguish who are here to tear down vs those who are we to build up. I would see that those who just criticize another person all the way (100%) are those who tear down another person or even Christianity reputation. I think so far, I haven't seen TheAccountant said anything positive to those he constantly criticize.

Again, there are many ways to give input to another person. We can purposely do it publicly to put the other person down. We can do it privately out of love and sensitivity for that person's feeling. We can teach, we can correct, we can rebuke, we can spur, we can inspire, we can encourage, we can build up, we can even do nothing but by showing personal example. But some person seems to be just rebuke 100% and never encourage. Imagine one day, when we have a family, how do the child feel if his father/mother only rebuke and not encouragement or assurance of love? This kind of so called rebuke does not reflect the rebuke out of love but rebuke out of anger/bitterness/frustration.

There is a difference between blind spot and refusal to take input. All of us might have blind spot that when people point of our blind spot with respect and sensitivity, this actually bring good to that person who receive it. Sometimes even though we have pointed out something, people could not still see it. It's ok because that person might need more time to realize it.

Thank You.

If prophetjul understood this from the beginning, I don't think any of us here would have any problem.

I think He's still young in age and if not a bit immature spiritually.

Like you said, I'm giving him time to realize his own blind spots, that's why I'm refraining from responding.

Because once I start responding, he'll need to accept the Hard Talk from me as well as a way to correct him.
And when can't accept, oh the usual words will come out, False Prophet, False Teacher... lol.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 29 2014, 04:06 PM

Actually we also have our own blind spot too - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johari_window. They said men tend to have lower self-awareness which mean bigger blind spot quadrant.

Think i am much older than you, in age and ministry.

You have a lot to learn about hermeneutics, interpretation of texts, etc. that is a weakness.
Unfortunately you seek to resort to less than Christ like measures instead of interacting here. And using condescending terms .....immature spiritually.
Did i ever call you a False anything? Or are you too sensitive?

BTW the usual words are found in scriptures. Troll is not. Neither cahoots with Lucifah.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Sep 29 2014, 04:33 PM

so start from now prophetjul and UW can shake hand already?

Maybe you both should come out yum cha. Sometimes exchanging words in the Internet can cause misunderstanding and miscommunication one.

Am still waiting for an apology from SOMEone on getting me suspended and falsely accused.

A Christian approach, no less.

Have you surpass 40?

If you think the term immature spiritually is a condescending term, it just shows you are the one who is too sensitive.

Yes I am still learning about hermeneutics, interpretation of texts but that does not mean it's a weakness on my part.
Everybody is still learning, even at the age of 80. I don't mind to admit this but the way you post insinuating as if your theological is better than mine shows a lot of immaturity on YOUR PART, spiritually even.

I still remember you don't believe all the miracles of Jesus and Healing is valid today. I remember you saying it's only valid during Jesus's time.

What do you have to say about that?

And if you say you did not call me a false anything, that I doubt it too because too many times you provoked and hinted as such, no problem for me to pull out what you've said in the past to prove this.

GO and read back what ngaisteve1 said in post #1767 and tell me if you are the who needs to apologize?

LEARN what he's trying to tell you.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 29 2014, 05:51 PM

Mid 50s.

Its condescending when you dont even know the person behind the nick. How can you judge form the forum?
i can say the same of you seeing your reaction to Accountant.

It is a weakness on your part when you tend to take verses out of context. Its important to maintain context when interpreting.
Otherwise as it goes; Text without context is pretext.
You never want to lose, do you?

i never said i dont believe in miracles. In fact i said that the greatest miracle is when a sinner comes to Jesus, when even the angels rejoice!

i only provoke through scriptures. You tend to stop answering the scriptural disucssions.
like i said, i dont know you. i cant judge you except by some of the words you type here.
Some are condescending and despotic at times.

Same goes to you.

No you're not answering me. The miracle of being saved is not my question.

DO you believe that Jesus still perform supernatural miracle, for example like Healing today?
What about Speaking in Tongues?

Or you do not believe that?

Stop your provocation and I don't mind to continue.
Be neutral and I will take part, without your insinuating, Don't even mention the word False Teacher to me.

ESPECIALLY to me, because I hate that. You don't know my background, you don't know my life and you don't know my walk with God.

If you can give me that, I will continue and shake hands with you. Deal?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Sep 29 2014, 06:07 PM

I think difference denomination is different over here. For the charismatic church they do but some non-charismatic church do not.

I cannot curse / witch craft prophetzul because he is protected by blood of Jesus. As simple as that. And i know this fact far before i came to malaysia.

So if i don't like his message in the forum, what should i do ? honestly... I play chess.

what play chess ? Here is the way:
I have to ask Jesus first, do you agree with prophetzul message in lowyat or not ?
Cuz the one that can rebuke prophetzul, the one protected by blood of Jesus... yaaaa... Jesus himself lah.

I found a bible verse to discuss with Jesus, Hebrew 12:6. I told Jesus i think prophetzul message is little bit off, perhaps My LORD wanna discipline him. But YOUR will be done lahh... not my will...

But i also tell Jesus honestly, am I using Jesus for my benefit ? how can i be justified ? Also later Jesus will punish me lahh if i am wrong... too much risk / cost on myside and i think being quiet is affordable cost. Crucify my fleshh lahhh.... like usual... humble2x...

There are a lot of discussion that i don't think it's wise to put in this forum. Here are discussion points that i wanna share:
1. Pray that only the Perfect will of GOD that will established in the forum
2. Enough to pray cannot login. No more. don't ask too much.
3. Jesus reserves rights to 100% not answering my prayer request.

I don't know what happen to prophetzul after i pray. What i know, GOD's in control and Jesus loves HIM. What kind of discipline ? i don't know.

Most likely: Holy Spirit in his gentleness whisper to prophetzul: Son, do you mind have a discussion with me ? Father to Son ? most likely...

How am i condescending when i dont call the forumers names like spiritually immature?
Or TRoll?

Of course he does. i have been healed before.

de1929 will tell you that ALL that is done by Jesus IS supernatural. And i tell you the greatest supernatural events are when the evil heart is transformed by the supernatural act of the Holy Spirit. THAT is the greatest supernatural deed.

Tongues is a gift given when needed as with all the other gifts. i dont think believers should blabber in public worship especially when there is no interpretation.

i think the one who colluded with Lucifah to get me suspended by spreading lies about me should apologise to me.

The scriptures provokes, not me. If i quote the scriptures and it provokes and convicts you, you should take notice. Its not me.
The scriptures are never neutral. You cannot be on the fence about TRUTH.
False teacher is a term used in scriptures.

i dont know your life or anything about you. Therefore i dont judge you personally. BUT i judge your writings here by scriptures.
For the matter, the scripture applies to any one of us here. If they provoke and speak to us, we should take note. Me included.

Spiritually immature is not name calling.

Are you brought up as Chinese Educated?
You seem to have difficulty understanding what is condition and what is a name.

Of course Everything that is done by Jesus is divine. There are no accidents nor coincidence when it comes from The Lord.
Yes Transformation of the Heart is from the Holy Spirit, but it doesn't come from Hard Talk or Harshness from other people.

Public Worship or the whole Service, which one now?
How can there be interpretation without the Speaking of tongues first?

Oh please, don't kid yourself. LYN Staff are not that stupid. Give them more credit will you?

What you did was provocation. Name Calling and being condescending. You yourself admit to provoking. Whether through scripture or not, to me that's irrelevant.

And provocation inevitable leads to bashing.

Tell me, In the course of your entire life while in this forum,

have anyone come to repentance when you quote scripture by the way you communicate?

do you see anyone coming back to God by what you do? Be honest with me.

Except when you personalise me as spiritually immature, which you are rather presumptuous at best, accusing at worst.

No. i was educated in UK actually.

Public worship or whole service, no difference. If there is no interpretation, the speaker of tongues should stop.