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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Sep 27 2014, 07:13 PM)
This thread mimic what Christians are in real life when they at the church. More interested in fighting and arguing with each other than to have fellowship. If they're not badmoutging others in their cell group, they are bad mouthing others in their church. When they're done with that, they bad mouth other denominations.
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I thought they only badmouth the Chinese religions ? They badmouth their own "brothers and sisters" too ?
Why is the bible and Christianity discussed here and not in the Religious forum ?
Is is true that all the churches in Malaysia advised their members not to discuss in general religious forum ? I know some churches discourage their members from discussing Christianity with others.

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post Sep 27 2014, 07:58 PM

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Okay lah, just 1 question. Do you love me as a brother?
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Why such a reply ? Makes one few very scary.
I know of some scam players and Christian leaders use such statement.
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post Sep 27 2014, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 26 2014, 06:33 PM)
You wanted the moderator to ban me right? I mean from what I have read, isn't that true.

Why should I report you? I have already implied many times. I dun play the politics game. I dun simply look for loop holes and then report other people. You see, I have a conscience unlike many people over here.

Only people who are not confident of themselves have to play the politics game. And looking through the thread, it is so easy to know who are the likely people who have reported prophetjul. Unless that person is totally disruptive, I see no reason to report them.

You see, prophetjul even though he disagreed with many of the views over here, at least attempts to reason. The person who reported him does not even have the decency to tell the admin to remove the ban as prophetjul was still actively contributing to this thread. Most likely the person who reported him, is actually happy that prophetjul got banned because there is just 1 less thorn. I mean say what you like, prophetjul provided a breath of fresh air by at least not agreeing with everything here. I mean it kinda gets boring if everyone just say yes, yes right? Now you have just force a brother out who was sincere in the things he said. Happy?

Know something? You are just merely a pawn to UW and perheps pehkey that's all. Once you go against them even with good reason, you will receive the same treatment as me, prophetjul and the rest of the others. They are obviously in cahoots with the moderators and can actually influence the moderators to take action against other people without much justification.

Final Word. I really hope that the words you type over here you dun actually speak it out in real life because people will think you are a lunatic.
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Well put. I thought religious discussion is free. Why should anyone be banned due to differences in opinion ?
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post Sep 27 2014, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Sep 27 2014, 07:18 PM)
Haven't seen you in a while
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I think i miss some of your daily message as well. Btw: I think i am around lahhh.... sorry unless u mean somebody else blush.gif
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post Sep 27 2014, 10:36 PM

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how serious is the person who cause division in the church?
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post Sep 27 2014, 11:03 PM

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tak boleh tahan theaccountant liao. ok la I take a break from this thread for a week like that first. catch up with u all next time ya
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post Sep 28 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 10:28 PM)

You see, if there is no check and balance, then what happens in the government will also happen in the church or other religious organization.
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In fact it has been happening in Malaysia especially among the Christians and Chinese religions people, not just in the church and temples but outside as well. I have come across many salespeople and businessmen who like to use religions to gain their trust from new contacts. They will say "l believe in the Lord" or "I am a vegetarian"........"so I do not do overcharging or cheating". Actually they did.
Even if there is someone to check and balance, it depends who is the person. If that person is the same, then the situation can only get worse. I always think that business and religion cannot be together. Nowadays, many church are managed like business establishments. I always advise friends NOT to give any donation to rich-looking churches and temples. 
Finally, only the individuals can think and decide for themselves who or what to believe or not to believe.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 27 2014, 10:36 PM)
how serious is the person who cause division in the church?
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Very serious. biggrin.gif

The Lord also will not tolerate division. The Lord hates division because it destroys His people as His expression. In the Old Testament the children of Israel were God's people for His corporate expression. In the New Testament the corporate expression of the Lord is the Body of Christ. Whereas heresy insults and damages the person of Christ, division damages the Body of Christ. Division kills the Body of Christ and cuts it into pieces. Because heresy damages the Head and because division kills the Body, the Lord, in both the New Testament and the Old Testament, will never tolerate division.
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Sep 28 2014, 07:38 PM)
Very serious. biggrin.gif

The Lord also will not tolerate division. The Lord hates division because it destroys His people as His expression. In the Old Testament the children of Israel were God's people for His corporate expression. In the New Testament the corporate expression of the Lord is the Body of Christ. Whereas heresy insults and damages the person of Christ, division damages the Body of Christ. Division kills the Body of Christ and cuts it into pieces. Because heresy damages the Head and because division kills the Body, the Lord, in both the New Testament and the Old Testament, will never tolerate division.
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As you know, there are many denominations with many different beliefs. I think that the Lord actually delights in diversity!
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(kernan.rio @ Sep 28 2014, 09:07 PM)
As you know, there are many denominations with many different beliefs. I think that the Lord actually delights in diversity!
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Different denomination doesn't mean no unity.
What's important is agreeing the core principals.
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(kernan.rio @ Sep 28 2014, 09:07 PM)
As you know, there are many denominations with many different beliefs. I think that the Lord actually delights in diversity!
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God reveals his revelation in stages as time progress, that is why you have various denomination today.

And it's rightly so, lest some denomination or people puff up with pride thinking he knows everything.


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post Sep 28 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Sep 28 2014, 07:38 PM)
Very serious. biggrin.gif

The Lord also will not tolerate division. The Lord hates division because it destroys His people as His expression. In the Old Testament the children of Israel were God's people for His corporate expression. In the New Testament the corporate expression of the Lord is the Body of Christ. Whereas heresy insults and damages the person of Christ, division damages the Body of Christ. Division kills the Body of Christ and cuts it into pieces. Because heresy damages the Head and because division kills the Body, the Lord, in both the New Testament and the Old Testament, will never tolerate division.
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Since you're here, what do you think of all this ordeal?
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:29 PM

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Somebody have yet to answer Post #1718.
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 28 2014, 09:19 PM)
God reveals his revelation in stages as time progress, that is why you have various denomination today.

And it's rightly so, lest some denomination or people puff up with pride thinking he knows everything.
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Oh, I thought God revealed everything in the Bible 2000 years ago?
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(kernan.rio @ Sep 28 2014, 09:29 PM)
Oh, I thought God revealed everything in the Bible 2000 years ago?
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I'm talking about Revelations. For example.

the Early Catholic still believed Salvation by works.
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 28 2014, 09:33 PM)
I'm talking about Revelations. For example.

the Early Catholic still believed Salvation by works.
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So God revealed to Catholics that we are saved by works?
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QUOTE(kernan.rio @ Sep 28 2014, 09:37 PM)
So God revealed to Catholics that we are saved by works?
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Not God revealing wrongly. Somebody didn't understood it correctly.
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post Sep 28 2014, 11:57 PM

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Before I was a Christian I use to eat trolls for breakfast.
Even as a Christian, I think I still have that appetite to eat trolls for breakfast.
They use to label me Legendary for trolling and I know a troll when I see one.

Doesn't matter. That's the thing of the past but when trouble makers arises in our Christian Fellowship,
I will rise up to defend where necessary.

Okay Here is me going against your ill intention towards all my brother and sister in Christ.



QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 26 2014, 10:32 AM)
So you practise witchcraft as well?

arr Here is God's Command towards witches.
27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

But nvm. God will do the work in the end.
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arr? lol. rolleyes.gif

Playing Dota is not witchcraft, it's the things of the past but you blatantly paint a lie here accusing him of witchcraft.
To me this is a trolling statement.

QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 26 2014, 10:33 AM)
I have a morning passage to share with you guys.
Ecclesiastes 8:10-13
10 And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.

11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

12 Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him:

13 But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.

Good Day.
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Nobody is going to take you seriously for quoting something irrelevant. We all have been saved, sanctified and washed by the Blood of Christ. This OT verse does not apply other than you using it out of context for trolling.

QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 26 2014, 01:58 PM)
There is no smoke without fire. One of you must have reported what has happened to the moderator.
The thing is, as Christians, do you really have to be so despicable.

Reporting us, will only lead our accounts to be banned. After all, lowyat is not our life.
Prophetjul was just only having a discussion and he got banned for that. I mean did he break any rules pertaining to Serious Kopitiam? No.
But someone decided to report him. Someone with a certain amount of authority. I think we all know who that person is. Because in normal circumstances, he wasn't breaking any rules.
So instead of being sorry for what you did, you are now gloating and even hoping for another person to get banned.

The bible said that we should not be afraid of man but afraid of the one who can destroy both your life and your soul.
So, carry on gloating if you are not afraid of the rammifications.
Anyway to the pope over here.
It seems that you do not have the ability to understand the context of what prophetjul, me and a few other Christians who have tried to correct you. Up to now, you still do not understand. But then this is what is expected as I believe that God did not really open your eyes yet. God only open the eyes of REAL believers unfortunately.
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The Bible says not to be afraid of Man but instead be afraid of God is used in the context when being persecuted, NOT to give up believing in Christ. Not to reject his name.

But You're using this verse to justify your intend to be abusive to Christians here? Nice one Troll.

Another troll statement from you. If you see as a Pope, well wow I didn't know I've been given such a high status. lol.

and that only comes from you, no one else.

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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 26 2014, 06:33 PM)
You wanted the moderator to ban me right? I mean from what I have read, isn't that true.

Why should I report you? I have already implied many times. I dun play the politics game. I dun simply look for loop holes and then report other people. You see, I have a conscience unlike many people over here.

Only people who are not confident of themselves have to play the politics game. And looking through the thread, it is so easy to know who are the likely people who have reported prophetjul. Unless that person is totally disruptive, I see no reason to report them.

You see, prophetjul even though he disagreed with many of the views over here, at least attempts to reason. The person who reported him does not even have the decency to tell the admin to remove the ban as prophetjul was still actively contributing to this thread. Most likely the person who reported him, is actually happy that prophetjul got banned because there is just 1 less thorn. I mean say what you like, prophetjul provided a breath of fresh air by at least not agreeing with everything here. I mean it kinda gets boring if everyone just say yes, yes right? Now you have just force a brother out who was sincere in the things he said. Happy?

Know something? You are just merely a pawn to UW and perheps pehkey that's all. Once you go against them even with good reason, you will receive the same treatment as me, prophetjul and the rest of the others. They are obviously in cahoots with the moderators and can actually influence the moderators to take action against other people without much justification.

Final Word. I really hope that the words you type over here you dun actually speak it out in real life because people will think you are a lunatic.
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Are his dupe account? smile.gif Are you prophetjul in disguise? smile.gif

Breath of Fresh air? More like breath of condemnation. Like you. Same Trait.

What do you mean our fellowship is boring? This is what scripture says about

Hebrews 10:25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the ...
not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging
one another--and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

See the word encouraging there? smile.gif See the word the day approaching? Days like what you're doing to discourage. Scripture really apply here.

QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 10:12 AM)
The whole situation is for you to see. I need to spell it out for you? So how many more people needs to be banned before you see the picture?

Anyway looking at the thread you posted at the finance and investment sector, you sound like a naive person anyway.

Something which is really obvious outside, people over here just cannot see. How?
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Don't call Deadlock naive, I think He's far better than you. You couldn't even answer his question properly.
He asked you to explain yourself in detail but all you're doing is being evasive.

QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 10:21 AM)
No worries. But what you have wrote confirms your integrity and conscience.

I knew from the start that you had to do with prophetjul getting banned.

Good. Now we know for sure with which spirit you have. No worries.

The bible passage which I posted earlier gives me comfort. Evil will only last for a season but God will go something about it in the end.

Seems that anyone who disagrees with you is rude and condescending. I see nothing rude and condescending pertaining to what Prophetjul wrote.

But since you are the pope, whatever you say is whatever. Enjoy your life as the pope in this thread for a while because your time is very limited.

When the time comes, everything will be destroyed anyway.

Continue in your arrogance in this small pond friend. Because that is the only place where you will thrive. You are insignificant in the big picture anyway. All of your efforts over here and even in your church will come to nil anyways when put into fire of testing.

You are no different from a snake. Saying one thing and doing another. Openly saying that you were going to block me and yet now saying that you are going after every word I said.

Of course, I will not be going after every of your word because I am a secure person unlike you. But I believe God will do so. You will be accounted for all the actions and every word in judgement day. That's all I have to say over here.
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Gives you comfort? More like syok sendiri comforting yourself.
Small Little Pond? Insignificant in the bigger picture?
All my effort and my church will come to nil?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Troll.

laugh.gif Sounds like someone is jealous here.

You believe God will do so? How can?

Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? ...
What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can
be against us? ... If God is for us, who can ever be against us? ...


QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 10:55 AM)
No worries man. All I know is that all of your words and deeds will be accounted for at judgement day.

See when someone gets desperate, it really shows right? It really shows.

They resort to banning other people, and also want to account for every words of a person who they think is wrong. If my words are so wrong why do you even have to waste your time looking at every words that I have write.

That is what happens when people are threatened. That is what happens when people are insecure.

They change their words all the time like a chameleon.

I know the psychology game friend.

You were trying to hide the fact that you were responsible for prophetjul being banned by being silent. But then, you realize that if you stay quiet, more and more of your followers will realize what a snake you are and that is why you start defending yourself now.

I believe I have succeeded in making you confess. But seeing how blind people are, well, they would not even know what a confession is when shown to them.

Actually, as the bible says, if there is no strong foundation, everything will get burned up in the end. I believe I am seeing parts of it right now.

The outside public will be able to see the joke you are and you have lost your credibility. As for the people over here, most of them probably do not have a mind of their own.
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Christ is our cornerstone, nothing else. His word, his grace is why we are here.

I still see we are here. Nothing is burned up except you being exposed as a troll.

And that is the Joke, really. Witchcraft. rolleyes.gif Lost my credibility? Sure a lot of people are against you, you've lost your credibility so you needed something to defend yourself with, which is heaps of more abusive and angry words coming from you. You needed to make people look silly by saying they've lost their mind when the truth is, they've figured you out.

I think it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure you out as a troll.



QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 03:05 PM)
Yes. The thing is. More people will indeed be reading this thread.

But at the same time, there will be more doubts being planted into people's mind onto whether what you believe in is authentic Christianity or whether indeed it's an apostate version of Christianity. People will start finding out more on what True Christianity means. I believe that this is a good thing indeed. They will realize the fake Christianity that you preach is wrong and come to the truth. Many unbelievers will also realize that Christians should not be naive and will start seeing Christianity in a better light. I think this is good progress indeed.

See, in this thread, how many people indeed support you. Very few. In fact I could probably count the numbers in just 1 hand maybe 2. As I said earlier, the people who supports you are either naive or have no desire to follow the truth in the first place. In fact, most of them are probably bible illiterate. Looking at the comments by other members make me want to laugh literally.

Actually perhaps you did not realize, but you have actually exposed yourself very severely based on your last few posts. You see, anyone who is not brainwashed will know your true character after reading the few post you have written. They will know that you are manipulative and a backstabber. Always taking the chance to back stab others when given the opportunity. I think even Paul do not take a high view of people like that.

You may feel that you have finally vindicated yourself, but in actual fact, you have actually exposed yourself even more

See, the worse kind of people are always people who act very nicely in front of everyone but then they start becoming vindictive whenever they have the opportunity.

See, normally those kind of backstabbers always think they are very smart but then their minds are pretty simple actually. I mean most people knows what they are doing actually. Only naive people fall for their devices.

For your info, there are Christians who has Pmed me asking me who are the "Christians" here they have to be careful of in thread. I beliee this is a good indicator. It just means that less and less people will take you seriously.

Yes more people will be reading this thread indeed. But as to the people who is going to take you seriously? I think it is going all the way downwards.
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The Bible says:

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of ...
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of
God so that you may know that you have eternal life. ...

God wants his people to be sure of
The Devil will use people like you to sow doubt.

Luke 8:12
Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved.

Yes indeed. MORE AND MORE people will know you are sowing seed of discord and disbelieve by your careless words.

Apostate version of Christianity? Analysing from all your earlier statements, I don't think you're a Christian in the first place.
It's not that difficult to expose your flaws. Because all you're doing to trying to cause people to doubt and to be disunited.

Ooops, did I just spilled your plan? rolleyes.gif

Support Me? lol. Did I force them to? Only you seem to twist it like that. The one who is manipulative is you.

We've questioned you, in exactly what sense, what are the details that is wrong, so far you're not able to provide simple answer but resort more to aggressive attacks.

Sure sure, of course you needed something to defend yourself so you'll use words like

Brainwash, manipulative , backstabber and even quote Christian scripture by using Paul's Name.

Don't kid yourself, you're a Fake Christian who has ill intend in our Christian Fellowship.

Those who are reading this, I've put in all his statement, you can read them above and judge for yourself this fraud.

Funny that I have many friend who PM me encouraging me. And that is a better indicator meaning the reality people are not taking you seriously.

If there's anyone who actually PM you asking who to be careful about, prove it. Show it here Troll. Screenshot it.


QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 10:30 PM)
The person who has psychological problem is obviously one who thinks he can attempt to merge other religion into Christianity as well as the other guy who feels he got magical powers to make a person not come into this thread.

I mean as more and more people comes in, we shall see who indeed has the psychological problems.
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More abusive words from a troll.

Dear Brother and Sisters in Christ, let us ignore this troll from now on.
It's very evident, check back all his statement.
Are these the words of a genuine Christian?
Doubt it. There is no love from Him, only anger and hatred.

What does the Bible says about people like this?

1 John 4:20

Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.


Let him speak to the air by himself. He does not love God, neither does He love others.

He has been exposed to be a fraud and a troll.

You guys ignore him. Let me handle him.

I will know how to handle a psychological problem like this because I'm very familiar with this type of people.
Very Familiar.

Shalom Bro n Sis.



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QUOTE(TheAccountant @ Sep 27 2014, 10:28 PM)
So I would like to ask you a question.

What if say the leader of the church suddenly go off tangent like the "leader" over here. So just keep quiet?

Ask yourself this question. Do you just accept what your religious leader say or you question them if you find that what they say is not proper.

Now for a pastor, you dun openly ask but you still ask discreetly what they feel about certain things privately.

You see, if there is no check and balance, then what happens in the government will also happen in the church or other religious organization.

That has been what is happening here. No one ever question this person until now.
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Here is a chance to prove yourself.

Exactly WHAT is going off tangent? Details Details Details.

Check and Balance of EXACT WHAT? Details please.

And lastly Question of EXACTLY WHAT? Details please.

Because see, anyone can pull a stunt like how you do it.
It''s not that difficult.

Oh this guy is fake Christian, fake this, fake that.
Fake and going off tangent.

Fake of EXACT WHAT? Hope you are able to comprehend this "simple" request.
Hope that it's simple enough for you in the first place.






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