A strange question, but is God a vegan? Because my family say before the fall, even lions eat vegetables.

http://www.jesusveg.com/index2.html

And then there's this. I remember what paul said about diet. Some people only feel right to eat vegetables, others accept meat.

Did lions really eat plants in Eden?

Who's going to DUMC tomorrow?

I am not sure why people are interested in these things .... But, I won't start labelling God is this and that ....

Two difficulties had arisen in the church in Rome - vegetarianism and Sabbatarianism. The vegetarians maintained that men began to eat meat only after the fall, and for that reason the eating of meat was wrong. There is no harm in ruling meat out from one's diet, but there is no salvation in it either. Vegetarianism is Cainism; it is bloodless. The Lord said, "My flesh is true food (i.e., eatable), and My blood is true drink (i.e., drinkable)" (John 6:55).

Man’s need for food before the fall was different from his need for food after the fall. We must understand the meaning of food. Food sustains our life. If a man does not eat, he will die. No one can live and survive without eating. In addition to eating herbs, vegetables, and fruits, God ordained that man should take meat in order to live and survive. In other words, God shows us that after sin entered the world, life must be sacrificed to preserve life. There is the need for an animal to lose its life to maintain our life. After sin entered this world, there was a need for the shedding of blood to maintain life. This is the reason that man’s food after the fall is different from his food before the fall. Christians should not be vegetarians; they should be free to take meat.

This does not mean that meat will necessarily do our body any good. Whether or not it is good for our body is a different thing.

The basic principle with us is that since sin has entered the world, man can no longer have life without the sacrifice of life.

You are correct that in Romans 14, we can see that Paul's attitude is very inclusive. Essentially he is not dealing with the question of right or wrong but with the question of Christian fellowship. He makes clear what the basis of this fellowship is. The point to be stressed is not whether a man's views are right or wrong, but whether God has received him.

Also, in verse 6 the phrase "to the Lord" is important. If a vegetarian sought fellowship, we should ask, "Do you refrain from eating meat because it is an idea of yours, or do you do it to please the Lord?" If he said, "To please the Lord," then I should reply, "If you can serve the Lord better this way, praise His name; go ahead."

Paul's stress is that those who live should live to the Lord and those who die should die to the Lord. Wherever we see that the central point is right, we should praise the Lord and not stress externalities. We should never lay emphasis on the technical side of Christianity, but always on the fundamental matter of doing everything "to the Lord." We must never seek to lead those who differ from us to think and act as we do, but simply seek to lead them closer to the Lord. The chief point is not whether we eat meat, but whether we are living to the Lord.

This post has been edited by pehkay: May 25 2014, 03:34 PM

Pehkay thanks for the really detailed answer

I am starting to think that I can only won and control others by hurting them....

This post has been edited by Sophiera: May 27 2014, 05:34 PM

Hi guys, can I ask something about Christianity?

What's the difference between a Christian and a Catholic?

This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: May 27 2014, 10:31 PM

Or...you can learn to be patience........well nobody is perfect but we can learn to improve day by day.



Denomination difference in terms of, Church Traditions and Rituals.

Catholic means Universal.

But they are still Christians non the less.

Christians actually means one who believes and follows Christ Jesus.

So many times i kena pijak because I'm not cruel enough. Like being withheld of my pay...

In a dream also always kalah. Sleep also no escape from my kalahness

This post has been edited by Sophiera: May 28 2014, 01:46 AM

its not a religion, its a relationship between god. mankind tend to label it as religion.
so far there is only 2 type AFAIK ; non-lukewarm and lukewarm

rev 3:15-18

This post has been edited by subimpact: May 28 2014, 02:03 AM

Are you a Christian?

Actually the negative conditions of the seven churches is more than just lukewarm

Ephesus - leaving of the first love (best love) => start of degradation
Smyrna- the Lord referred to the “synagogue of Satan” (Rev. 2:9). The synagogue is a strong sign of Judaism. Also to overcome persecution, comprising tribulation, poverty, trial, imprisonment;
Pergamos - marriage to the world. Originally, the world opposed the church; now the world and the church are married. The method of Balaam is to destroy the separation between the church and the world, and the result is idol worship.
Thyatira - no need to say lar ... religious hierarchy, leaven etc.
Sardis - spiritually dead or dying.
Philadephia - being absolute to keep the Lord’s word (the only positive one)
Laodicia = lukewarm

Just a overview of overviews ...

me also kena pijak

Pijak?

We don't have to be a doormat but we don't have to be cruel either.

Just know your reasons whether it's justified.

Intimidated or blackmailed with perceived subpar performance to be withheld of pay.

Or, recently I tried to update my modem's firmware. It bricked instead because of windows 8 reasons. I can't know that. And yet I still kena marah because I failed to foresee that Asus modems are so fickle.

I signed up for unifi. Dad said okay, bro heard it and made a big fuss about not discussing with him first. Dad is the owner of the account, of course naturally I will talk to him first.

And after big hoo hah, the next day bro said ok. Got scolded over nothing.

The scolding include critisism of my character. Immature b**** la. Get angry salah, yell salah, blow up also salah. Say having a discussion padahal I nothing I say is valid to defend myself. Even if family say they're not attacking me, I certainly still feel like a siege.

I always have this issue. Say not attacking me, but the tone and reasoning macam attack saja.

When communication breakdown it's always semua salah Sophie

This post has been edited by Sophiera: May 28 2014, 06:23 PM

Christianity is not a religion? Do you know what religion means?



You mean Christian don't believe in God?

amen
may the god bless the earth with rain

This post has been edited by atheistaa: May 29 2014, 03:49 PM

yes please enlighten me when i read chapter 5 of crazy love by francis chan... he was refering to us christian as being either one of the type of christians im not trying to argue here but just sharing some light on how to imply verse in the bible reflecting to us. not just for the sake of reading the bible as theocraticly

i know what is religion, its a word where they do not know what classified groups of a people that follows a principle and teaching. but its more of man made stuff with extra salt pepper and other stuff.

my dear friend, the first statement i've made wasnt refering to you... however the one below your quote refers to my understanding of types of christans which is two.. it sad to know lukewarm Christians are definitely around us even in the congregation (church). ever heard of the saying a rotten egg will spoil the whole cake. same goes to our walk in faith... gotta be careful with people..

Hey guys, don't mind if I share this.

Why Christianity is not a religion?

Because the root word religion in classic Latin ("religio") means to bind.

In typology meaning one's ultimate aim or salvation is bound to the laws or doctrine of being save.

Here's a couple of excerpt

http://philippians1v21.wordpress.com/why-b...not-a-religion/

The way to be right with God in every religion is by earning your way. It is based on works, not grace. Christianity is different from every religion in this aspect: all other religions (including Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) state that you must earn the right to be reconciled with God. It is by what you do in this life (good deeds or bad deeds) that determines your eternal destiny. Christianity is completely different from this. It is not religion.

http://www.christinyou.net/pages/Xnotrel.html

The Latin word from which the English word "religion" is derived means "to bind up." Jesus did not come to bind us up in rules and regulations or rituals of devotion, but to set us free to be man as God inended.


http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christiani...lationship.aspx

With all the religions in the world, what makes Christianity different?
Christianity is not a set of rules that one must follow to gain acceptance or inclusion. The Apostle Paul himself said that we are saved by faith, not by works.
But so many Christians walk around with the mindset today that they must do something or continue to do something to maintain their identity as a Christian.
Think of Christianity more as a relationship, or marriage, if you well. As the Church, we are in fact called the bride of Christ throughout Scripture.