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QUOTE(BeastX @ Sep 19 2014, 12:06 PM) Direct the question to here is you want to pursue an answer ... But i guess that neither you nor anyone was there to verify. Just another hypothesishttps://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2661388/+1280 To be precise I'd use 50 to 55 million years ago for the first primate, 25 to 30 Million for the first Ape, 2.3 to 2.4 Million for the first Homo genus, 200k for the first H. sapien species... A billion will be off by a factor of around 18x... |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 19 2014, 03:17 PM) nothing to envy, really. Ministry not easy.QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 19 2014, 03:22 PM) I think go full time not necessarily need to study bible college. Maybe some churches doesn't need that theology paper qualification yup depends on the Church. |
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 19 2014, 03:22 PM) I think go full time not necessarily need to study bible college. Maybe some churches doesn't need that theology paper qualification Depends what ministry one is involved in.IMO the teachers need to be trained properly in the science of biblical hermeunetics. Otheriwse you can have all sorts of mis interpretation as well as interpretation. |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 19 2014, 04:56 PM) Depends what ministry one is involved in. True also. I think you also a theology graduates, right? IMO the teachers need to be trained properly in the science of biblical hermeunetics. Otheriwse you can have all sorts of mis interpretation as well as interpretation. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 19 2014, 03:26 PM) if the church can do the spiritual mapping before sending evangelist to pioneer a church should be manageable imho. identify devil's local structure such as: 1. how many massage parlour there ? 2. how many criminal record / kes jenayah in local city ? 3. how many disease / death record for babies 4. how healthy is the city 5. how about people income. are they poor, abnormal poor or are they rich / abnormal rich. i just wonder those churches that send minister to orang aseli, does church simply sending people or did the spiritual mapping analysis before sending them ? just curious. i did respect churches that send minister to orang aseli okk... peace |
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forgot to add, sure devil's attack are real and translated as: ministry is not easy.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 19 2014, 04:07 PM) if the church can do the spiritual mapping before sending evangelist to pioneer a church should be manageable imho. Depends on the Church. identify devil's local structure such as: 1. how many massage parlour there ? 2. how many criminal record / kes jenayah in local city ? 3. how many disease / death record for babies 4. how healthy is the city 5. how about people income. are they poor, abnormal poor or are they rich / abnormal rich. i just wonder those churches that send minister to orang aseli, does church simply sending people or did the spiritual mapping analysis before sending them ? just curious. i did respect churches that send minister to orang aseli okk... peace Smaller Churches may not do so deep an analysis, just simple planning, like understanding the culture of the people there before going, setting up prayer team for the mission, etc. Bigger Church with analytical workers may do some analysis as what you said. |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 19 2014, 05:07 PM) if the church can do the spiritual mapping before sending evangelist to pioneer a church should be manageable imho. wow, didn't realize this way to analyze. i think our church is more toward population. to send church to highest population cities first. nice oneidentify devil's local structure such as: 1. how many massage parlour there ? 2. how many criminal record / kes jenayah in local city ? 3. how many disease / death record for babies 4. how healthy is the city 5. how about people income. are they poor, abnormal poor or are they rich / abnormal rich. i just wonder those churches that send minister to orang aseli, does church simply sending people or did the spiritual mapping analysis before sending them ? just curious. i did respect churches that send minister to orang aseli okk... peace |
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Sep 19 2014, 04:40 PM) Just wondering, will you struggle financially? I think usually full time minister has a lower pay compare to work for corporate. If will be hard if you don't understand God's principal.To the Glory of God, Philipians 4:19 is very true in my life. God is so good that's why I share the principals of the Bible in all my devotions in this Thread. When I say it's God's will to prosper you, that is the truth. And it's based on the New Covenant that invalidates the Old for the Believers. |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Sep 19 2014, 04:07 PM) if the church can do the spiritual mapping before sending evangelist to pioneer a church should be manageable imho. Wah if that's the citeria I can confidently say my place is the tong sampah of KL. I know there small churches dotted around the area to minister, though I don't know how effective they are. Can't expect them to really do miracles due to the sheer size of the tong sampah.identify devil's local structure such as: 1. how many massage parlour there ? 2. how many criminal record / kes jenayah in local city ? 3. how many disease / death record for babies 4. how healthy is the city 5. how about people income. are they poor, abnormal poor or are they rich / abnormal rich. i just wonder those churches that send minister to orang aseli, does church simply sending people or did the spiritual mapping analysis before sending them ? just curious. i did respect churches that send minister to orang aseli okk... peace How tong sampah? Prostitute den right across police station. |
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Sep 19 2014, 05:51 PM) Wah if that's the citeria I can confidently say my place is the tong sampah of KL. I know there small churches dotted around the area to minister, though I don't know how effective they are. Can't expect them to really do miracles due to the sheer size of the tong sampah. I think of the challenges in our country is that Malaysian muslim cannot be reached out (or converted) to and majority (60%) are Malay here. Pray that one day there will be changes of law in this country. But I heard there are some underground muslim converted Christian here.How tong sampah? Prostitute den right across police station. This post has been edited by ngaisteve1: Sep 19 2014, 04:56 PM |
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