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post Sep 12 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 12 2014, 11:39 PM)
1. Agree with this but the housing in KL/Penang/JB not cheap also, in the end still squeeze in small room.
2. Nobody can earn enough money. Your lifestyle change with your income.
3. People work in KL easily more stressful than SG due to the low buying power income.
4. Come back to the point you work for money or rank?

I think normally people who afford to go back are mostly non exec workers. OT to max, earn first bucket of gold then go back to start small business. No way for a factory worker to go back to become manager in Msia, and don't think they like to work similar labour jobs in Msia. Ppl who start with exec level normally get PR after few years, then buy hdb to settle down. You ask them go back while leaving whole bunch of cpf in Sg , earn half to at most 3 quarter of their current pay. Not many can do that lor...
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For last part...

tongue.gif I s'wak ppl. Want chao then withdraw all CPF sign won't back to SG thingy.

But yeah... I think many will get PR and settle down. Too bad sad.gif Malaysia is such a lovely country *if just live here without working here yet have enough supply of money to stay alive* biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 12 2014, 11:44 PM)
For last part...

tongue.gif I s'wak ppl. Want chao then withdraw all CPF sign won't back to SG thingy.

But yeah... I think many will get PR and settle down. Too bad sad.gif Malaysia is such a lovely country *if just live here without working here yet have enough supply of money to stay alive* biggrin.gif
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Sarawak is a lovely place. Things not expensive yet. My friend work in Jurong Shipyard, 3rd year bought second landed house already. I think he can go back very soon.
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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 12 2014, 11:51 PM)
Sarawak is a lovely place. Things not expensive yet. My friend work in Jurong Shipyard, 3rd year bought second landed house already. I think he can go back very soon.
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Marine industry earn quite a lot la...

Btw... Sarawak is not cheap. Compared to KL and other places, maybe can only save on toll. Other things not really cheaper some even more expensive especially groceries. Many things are made in Peninsular and shipped to Sabah/Sarawak so many household needs are actually more expensive there.

Want buy house not hard la... Need to save the downpayment and save some buffer for instalment. After that need secure a job that can at least pay the monthly instalment. biggrin.gif Or save downpayment d, buy house then use rent to cover the instalment while still working in SG. Let family or relative manage the house.


Btw... How can we loan in Malaysia if we're working in SG? Need ask family help loan? Else how to let bank approve our loan? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 12 2014, 11:57 PM)
Marine industry earn quite a lot la...

Btw... Sarawak is not cheap. Compared to KL and other places, maybe can only save on toll. Other things not really cheaper some even more expensive especially groceries. Many things are made in Peninsular and shipped to Sabah/Sarawak so many household needs are actually more expensive there.

Want buy house not hard la... Need to save the downpayment and save some buffer for instalment. After that need secure a job that can at least pay the monthly instalment. biggrin.gif Or save downpayment d, buy house then use rent to cover the instalment while still working in SG. Let family or relative manage the house.
Btw... How can we loan in Malaysia if we're working in SG? Need ask family help loan? Else how to let bank approve our loan? hmm.gif
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10 THINGS A MALAYSIAN REALISES LIVING IN SINGAPORE

With Malaysia Day around the corner, we at CILISOS thought it would be nice to take a stroll down memory lane (we love our strolls). The date is 16 September 1963. Malaya, Sabah, Sarawak and Singapore joined together with the then States of the Federation of Malaya to form Malaysia. Ta dah! Two years later, Singapore gained independence, charted a course of their own and never looked back.

The story of Malaysia and Singapore since then reminds me of twin brothers. We grew up wanting to be unique so that people can differentiate us and to find things that define our identity. Yet, there is so much we understand about each other and we do enjoy annoying each other every now and then (though not as annoying as receiving a game notification on Facebook. You know who you are).

So, about 10 months ago, I did what many Malaysians have been doing (and probably will continue to do until the apocalypse arrives) – hop over the causeway to work in the little island of Singapore.

Google Search of ‘How many Malaysians in Singapore’. 1,820,000 results. Say it with us – WA. LAO. EH.
Prior to coming here, I read and heard about all kinds of things to expect (some good, some bad and some strange). Nearing a year here, I thought it would be interesting to pen these thoughts down to show how we both are actually quite same-same but different in our own special ways.

Ask any Malaysian or Singaporean about how they feel about their differences and off they go on a passionate love/hate speech elaborate enough to be included into a scene of Game of Thrones. It could be because our historical and cultural roots are so deep and entwined that sometimes it gets difficult to draw the line between the differences and similarities – whatever the reason, this is a passionate and never-ending debate.

From the outside, we seem pretty much the same – we sorta look the same, our food kinda smells the same, our sentences are peppered with words from at least two different languages or dialects whenever we speak:

“Bro, the weather today cannot tahan weh. Armpit wet liao la!”
Similar to the popular ‘Macha, you wanna makan here or tapau’ line by @jeethurai (Twitter; handle now defunct) during Malaysia’s GE13.

Yet, there are distinct differences. Mind you, I do not claim to know either country in depth, but who are we as human beings to not form opinions and perceptions? So, all in good fun, here is a list of ten things a Malaysian may realise whilst living in Singapore smile.gif

Disclaimer: These are observations made by myself and other Malaysians who have previously or are currently living on this side of the causeway. We are not saying any one is better than the other lah. After this, everyone shake hand, hug it out, ‘da bao’ chicken rice and go home happily eat okay?

1. We have the same food, but how come cook already so different leh?

First off, let’s not get into a debate about which food belongs to who. There is no peaceful end to that, and someone will inevitably get impaled with satay sticks. A December 2013 Buzzfeed post listed 27 reasons why Singapore is the most delicious place on earth, which obviously did not go down well with Malaysians. After all, you would be hard pressed to find someone who would say all the foods listed were uniquely Singaporean. We both have different methods of cooking the same dish – our Hokkien Mee is black, theirs is white; our Bak Kut Teh has loads of magical discoveries within the pot while theirs is mostly pork ribs in peppery broth; Roti Canai to us is Roti Prata to them. So setting aside technicalities, the dish themselves can be said to be quite sama-sama lah.

Malaysia mari punya Hokkien Mee. Image from cavinteo.blogspot.com
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Singapore’s take on the same dish. Image from hungrygowhere.com
Here is where it differs though. In Singapore, street food equals hawker centres. Sure, it is cleaner, more organised, and have tons of seats. However, I often wonder to myself why is it when I wolf down that plate of Wantan Mee, it just doesn’t taste as er… gritty? My guess – it is because in Malaysia, ‘street food’ actually means food you find on the street. As literal as that.

Ramli burgers to ‘lok lok’ to that mak cik who sells her pyramid of nasi lemak every Sunday morning beside Petronas – somehow there’s an extra ‘kick’ from all the extra roadside ‘flavouring’ to it that harder to find in Singapore.

Aside from that, Singaporeans (like us Malaysians) love to share their food discoveries with everyone they know, that often result in a very, epic food hunt adventure through the immense concrete jungle. They will happily tell you about this food stall that they have discovered serving the most epic chicken rice you will ever taste in your current lifetime, your next lifetime and the lifetime after that.

So, he or she takes you on a journey which starts by meeting at a MRT station to take a train, then switch lines, then take another train, then take bus, then walk 15 minutes (by which time you wish the chicken could just walk to meet you).

Then, when you finally sit down and put that piece of well-earned chicken in your mouth, you’re like ‘Eh, taste about the same as the one we had at Chinatown last week what’.

However, there are gems to be found here – the vinegar-laced ‘Bak Chor Mee’ is something I can’t get enough of (the one at Tai Hwa Eating House is highly recommended), the BBQ chicken wings at Bedok North is a poultry force to be reckoned with and the chilli crab at Jumbo Seafood restaurant is the kind that keeps everyone quiet and all you hear are the ‘slurps’ and ‘ahhhh’ when everyone is done.

Conclusion? In Singapore, there are gems to be found and overall, the standard is decent everywhere – it is rare that you will be disappointed. In Malaysia, you have your tragic misses where you feel like going into the kitchen to cook yourself, then you have those unexplainable ‘a-unicorn-pooped-in-my-mouth’ experiences that make you want to mortgage your car to buy the entire chicken rice stall so you can eat it for the rest of your lifetime.

2. We both twist the same language. So, what’s there to argue about?

For this, it seems Malaysians and Singaporeans just have to agree to disagree. At some point in your life, you may have heard people get heated over this topic but is there really a need to? Sure, people here may use different words to end their sentences, but I understand them perfectly fine. Manglish or Singlish – it seems like we just have our own ways of saying the same things.

In KL: “Eh bro, have you tried that satay ah? Sedap weh!”

In SG: “Eh bradder, that satay place you try already? The sauce damn nice sia!”

For every ‘lah’ Malaysians have in their armoury, Singaporeans just have a different variant. It is like two orchestras playing the same song, and both renditions are music to our respective ears.

3. Not quite sure how this happened, but why am I walking faster?

The moment you step into Singapore, and many who have lived here for a while now would probably agree, it is like someone pressed fast-forward on the remote control while watching TV and fell asleep with their finger on the button. The escalators seem faster, the tap out machines at MRT stations are immediate and taxi drivers seem to be in a hurry to drop you off to go home and watch Arsenal play Manchester City.

The funny thing is when your surrounding picks up speed, you will find it hard to maintain your usual pace of life. People walk in flash mode – to the MRT, in the shopping mall, on the streets, to the toilets, even inside the toilets!

Mini challenge: Switch lines in the Dhoby Ghaut MRT on a Sunday afternoon to test how fast you can actually brisk walk.

The good side to all this is you realise how fast it is that things get done. When I had to collect my Employment Pass when I first got to Singapore, it took less than a week to process the whole thing (I was in and out of the centre within 15 minutes). Signing up for broadband and mobile phones are quite hassle-free too.

All in all, you will come to appreciate the efficiency of which you can get things sorted out but you might miss the ‘chillax’ lifestyle after a while.

4. Rules, instructions, signboards everywhere! Where did the chaos go?

So, you land in Changi airport and everything is strangely in order. Perfectly-placed signboards, attendants on standby to guide you to the first available immigration counter and people sticking to the left of escalators when standing still.

There are instructions everywhere.

Some of them common sense…

… and some of them strange.

Didn't your mama tell you not to squeeze birds? Image from myvividmoments.blogspot.sg
Don’t… Squeeze… Bird?
These rules are observed by the majority and when someone fails to do – the first thought that comes to mind is ‘Who do they think they are ah?!’.

Someone asked me before on how it feels like to be in a place where almost everything is in perfect order and I thought to myself, ‘hey, you know what, it is pretty nice’. You are in a rush to a meeting and you have the confidence that public transport will not let you down (unless the taxis are changing shifts then you can start crying to yourself in the corner).

Of course, there are the queues. Queues to get on the train, queues to buy your favourite nyonya kuih, queues for almost everything! After a while, you come to respect the queues too. Is it a strange sight seeing a 30-meter line of people queuing up to buy a chicken rice? Yes. Is it a bad thing? Not exactly.

Note: You might miss the chaos after a while though. I travel back to Malaysia to bask in it every couple of months smile.gif

5. How come public transport so on time one?

The public transport system here is a thing of beauty (especially if you have become accustomed to what Malaysia has to offer). It is cheap to hop on a bus, it is efficient when you get on a train (though peak hours can serve up a platter of human sardines) and taxis are aplenty. This study surveyed the public transportation in 35 cities taking in factors such as journey time, fares, crowding levels, and ease of using the network and no surprise to see Singapore ranked as one of the world’s best.

The situation has certainly improved in Malaysia now with the existence of services such as GrabTaxi, Uber and MyTeksi but the relative ease and options in which you can get from point A to point B in Singapore is something that you will appreciate in time.

6. And WHAT is the magic behind tissue paper?!

A strange phenomenon that I had to ask my colleagues about. Go to a hawker centre or food outlet and you see tons of tissue packets lying on tables, neatly positioned too. At first, I thought Christmas came early only to realise people use it to book or ‘chope’ seats. When I ask Singaporeans why this ritual exists, they said it gets busy during peak hours and they wouldn’t want to be carrying their food around looking for vacant seats.

The rationale seems fair enough. Then, I tried to imagine this happening in Malaysia and I giggled to myself (in the manliest manner ever, of course). A guy walks up to a table and sees a packet of tissue packet. He proceeds to coolly put it into his pocket, thanks his tissue gods for the gift, takes a seat and orders a teh o’ ais limau. End of story.

7. Everything, everywhere is super clean. Where dem dirt hiding at?

Some say it is enforced, some say it is habit – whatever it is, the antiseptic level of cleanliness in Singapore is remarkable. The malls are cleaner than some of the hospitals I’ve been warded in. You could have a three-course meal in a Singaporean toilet and you would probably still be alive to recount your experience.

Google ’10 cleanest cities in the world’ and the top three results has Singapore in them. Even the young ones know this.

After some time, you will come to appreciate living in an exceptionally clean environment. The downside to this is that it gives people a slightly unrealistic expectation of how squeaky clean every city should be. So, just remember, when you return to Malaysia, be appreciative of the fact that you can see that artful piece of used chewing gum on the floor while you’re eating your Hokkien Mee. Oh, the beauty.

8. How come walking feels more like going on an adventure?

At the risk of sound like an American Beauty quote, the amount of walking one has to do in Singapore will constantly bring up surprising discoveries. The density of the country gives pedestrians an interesting experience as within a short distance, you might have walked past a Michelin-starred restaurant, wise old uncles playing chess on a mahjong table and then a cheap liquor store right next to them.

Also, it is safe walking along the streets as roads here are mostly built with pedestrians in mind. Back in Malaysia, it is not as pedestrian-friendly so more often than not we would hop into a car, a train, a taxi or a bus at some point of our journey. Here, walking pathways are wide, in good condition and pretty much everywhere. You will not mind skipping that taxi ride for a 20 to 30 minute walk. Just avoid plucking the flowers because they bite. Trust us.

9. The whole stereotype of ‘kiasu’ and ‘kiasi’ Singaporeans… Is it really true?

During my time here, I’ve met tons of wonderful people. Sure, you would get your fair share of spoilsports and whiners but which country doesn’t have any? (Bhutan, perhaps). Everyone still works hard to get ahead (same as Malaysia) and everyone still wants to have some sort of recreational fun (though the type of activity may differ).

Which leads me to my final point and the conclusion…

10. Don’t believe everything you hear about a certain place until you get there.

We hear so many stories about Singapore – from our families, friends, acquaintances, business partners – that our heads are filled with all these preconceptions and assumptions about this island (you will be overworked, you will have no fun, the people are too serious etc.). Granted, if you do eventually end up living here and feel that all those preconceived notions are true, then that is your say.

For me, I love the relentless efficiency and cleanliness of Singapore yet I do miss ‘chaos’ and ‘chillax ah, bro’ attitude in Malaysia.

I have also come to realise that the aspects that we thought made us different are the very things that bring us closer as it creates conversations that can go on for hours and hours. We just have to agree to disagree on things like how dark a Hokkien Mee should be and all will be fine.

Throw a Malaysian and a Singaporean into a foreign land and more often than not, a beautiful friendship will blossom. So, as with our Singapoke articles before, we know there is lots of love between the countries and its people. Sometimes, you just have to dig deeper until you find the satay-flavoured unicorns and ais kacang-coloured Care Bears.

Group hug, everyone.

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QUOTE(poor_engineer @ Sep 12 2014, 11:39 PM)
I think normally people who afford to go back are mostly non exec workers. OT to max, earn first bucket of gold then go back to start small business. No way for a factory worker to go back to become manager in Msia, and don't think they like to work similar labour jobs in Msia. Ppl who start with exec level normally get PR after few years, then buy hdb to settle down. You ask them go back while leaving whole bunch of cpf in Sg , earn half to at most 3 quarter of their current pay. Not many can do that lor...
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None exec are the group who can't afford to continue stay in SG cause the job they do mangala also can do and forced to go back because younger and cheaper work force replacing them. Lovely country who want to leave?
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Actually Sg is not bad la. Now I need to decide whether to move to USA but don't think I will do that. Better life quality is state but need to leave family far across the pacific ocean. And I realize working in Sg can save more for retirement due to strong cpf and much lower tax. In my thought, possible to move to any country but not 1-Malay-sia.
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Talking about PR, how difficult it is for a Malaysian on E-Pass to apply for PR nowadays?
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QUOTE(highwind85 @ Sep 13 2014, 10:51 AM)
Talking about PR, how difficult it is for a Malaysian on E-Pass to apply for PR nowadays?

Very easy. just make eappointment then submit your documents then gaudim, you've applied for PR!
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 12 2014, 11:38 AM)
I think people will only consider back to Msia due to either
1. Cnt stand with Singapore population (packed country, stay in small room of HBD)
2. Family (time to settle down in Msia after earned enough money, or parents old ad)
3. Stress environment
4. Better job scope/rank (maybe the pay is downgraded, but the rank maybe higher)

basically I kinda doubt people will back Msia become of pay la..haha..
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Balik to retire lah smile.gif

My thinking .. say you start work at 20 until 55 (35 years)
Work in SG 35 years / 2.5 (exchange rate) = 14 years

Work in Singapore 14 year (20 + 14) = 34 balik retire and enjoy life biggrin.gif

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Hi all, I have a question about EP. The new FCF guidelines for employers who wish to hire EP holders state that the employers must first advertise the job for 14 days on JobsBank before submitting an EP application.

I will be attending an interview in SG in a few days. As far as I know, this job is not advertised on the JobsBank (I checked). The company didn't even advertise any vacancies, I only got the interview because I emailed the company asking if they had a vacancy.

Will this affect my chances of getting the job? I'm worried if they offer me the job and then later retract the offer because they found a local candidate after advertising as required on JobsBank. Should I even discuss this during the interview? >_<

The situation is a bit more complicated because I received another job offer in MY which I liked and will take if I can't get a guarantee that this SG company will definitely hire me.

Much appreciated if anyone can share some advice smile.gif

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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Sep 13 2014, 04:30 PM)
As far as I know, this job is not advertised on the JobsBank (I checked).

I thought you need Singpass to login to jobsbank, how you check? hmm.gif

Anyway it's anyone's guess how effective the jobsbank actually is with regards to FCF. As an example, in my company (a 70k+ employee MNC), any internal job posting they MUST advertise it on the intranet for 2 weeks as per HR policy. Yet half or more of these internal ads actually they already have decided on a candidate and are just wayang to waste everyone's time for formalities' sake.

If you go to sinkie forums like HWZ, everyone thinks the jobsbank also wayang only and companies will just continue hiring foreigners just with an added formalities step of "oops I put on jobsbank but no suitable candidate apply from there also."


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QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Sep 13 2014, 01:52 PM)
My thinking .. say you start work at 20 until 55 (35 years)

How many people actually retire at 55 though? My dad this year 67 still working. But of course that's also partially cos he has 5 kids, 3 of which are still schooling / in uni lol.
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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Sep 13 2014, 04:30 PM)
Hi all, I have a question about EP. The new FCF guidelines for employers who wish to hire EP holders state that the employers must first advertise the job for 14 days on JobsBank before submitting an EP application.

I will be attending an interview in SG in a few days. As far as I know, this job is not advertised on the JobsBank (I checked). The company didn't even advertise any vacancies, I only got the interview because I emailed the company asking if they had a vacancy.

Will this affect my chances of getting the job? I'm worried if they offer me the job and then later retract the offer because they found a local candidate after advertising as required on JobsBank. Should I even discuss this during the interview? >_<

The situation is a bit more complicated because I received another job offer in MY which I liked and will take if I can't get a guarantee that this SG company will definitely hire me.

Much appreciated if anyone can share some advice smile.gif
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Possible will affect la... But if you really are that good, I believe they can get through it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 13 2014, 07:26 PM)
I thought you need Singpass to login to jobsbank, how you check? hmm.gif

Anyway it's anyone's guess how effective the jobsbank actually is with regards to FCF. As an example, in my company (a 70k+ employee MNC), any internal job posting they MUST advertise it on the intranet for 2 weeks as per HR policy. Yet half or more of these internal ads actually they already have decided on a candidate and are just wayang to waste everyone's time for formalities' sake.

If you go to sinkie forums like HWZ, everyone thinks the jobsbank also wayang only and companies will just continue hiring foreigners just with an added formalities step of "oops I put on jobsbank but no suitable candidate apply from there also."
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Hmm... Just like what I'm thinking biggrin.gif

I actually thought SG'ean very follow law but actually not really... They won't bang ppl won't throw rubbish anywhere but some I see, they spit into the bush/... in the public and cross the road without following pedestrian crossing. Some drive their car in reverse traffic (yeah I saw it once, that area is supervised by CCTV on light pole lagi biggrin.gif )... Maybe my prejudice is a little wrong biggrin.gif

QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 13 2014, 07:28 PM)
How many people actually retire at 55 though? My dad this year 67 still working. But of course that's also partially cos he has 5 kids, 3 of which are still schooling / in uni lol.
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Wow... 3 still studying... "Pai mia" eh... But if your dad enjoy it then good la biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 13 2014, 07:28 PM)
How many people actually retire at 55 though? My dad this year 67 still working. But of course that's also partially cos he has 5 kids, 3 of which are still schooling / in uni lol.
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Why your father's kids' high flying eldest or 2nd brother never help to lighten up the family burden? Anyway, bapa Singapore, ex PM, MM, PM's father, annual salary few million sgd still working at 90 notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif . Peasant enough money want to retire at 55 ah biggrin.gif ?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 13 2014, 07:26 PM)
I thought you need Singpass to login to jobsbank, how you check? hmm.gif

Anyway it's anyone's guess how effective the jobsbank actually is with regards to FCF. As an example, in my company (a 70k+ employee MNC), any internal job posting they MUST advertise it on the intranet for 2 weeks as per HR policy. Yet half or more of these internal ads actually they already have decided on a candidate and are just wayang to waste everyone's time for formalities' sake.

If you go to sinkie forums like HWZ, everyone thinks the jobsbank also wayang only and companies will just continue hiring foreigners just with an added formalities step of "oops I put on jobsbank but no suitable candidate apply from there also."
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Don't need Singpass to check. Here's the link if you're interested lol JobsBank

For EP application now... the employer need to provide the JobsBank application number together with the EP application. If stated in the application that there is 2 vacancies, then MOM only allow you to apply for 2 EP only. They sound alot stricter now rclxub.gif

QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 13 2014, 09:10 PM)
Possible will affect la... But if you really are that good, I believe they can get through it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Hmm... Just like what I'm thinking biggrin.gif

I actually thought SG'ean very follow law but actually not really... They won't bang ppl won't throw rubbish anywhere but some I see, they spit into the bush/... in the public and cross the road without following pedestrian crossing. Some drive their car in reverse traffic (yeah I saw it once, that area is supervised by CCTV on light pole lagi biggrin.gif )... Maybe my prejudice is a little wrong biggrin.gif
Wow... 3 still studying... "Pai mia" eh... But if your dad enjoy it then good la biggrin.gif
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Actually... I interviewed with them previously before FCF rules came into play.. but because I couldn't come in immediately got rejected. Now it's like 2nd chance given sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Sep 13 2014, 11:57 PM)
Why your father's kids' high flying eldest or 2nd brother never help to lighten up the family burden? Anyway, bapa Singapore, ex PM, MM, PM's father, annual salary few million sgd still working at 90  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif . Peasant enough money want to retire at 55 ah biggrin.gif ?
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I think you guys and girl has missed the point, that is to retire by 34 drool.gif
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Sep 13 2014, 11:57 PM)
Why your father's kids' high flying eldest or 2nd brother never help to lighten up the family burden?

cos our adopted home now most expensive city in the world but my salary only $30k pa, how to lighten family burden when sendiri oso need to do karang guni part time on weekends?

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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Sep 14 2014, 02:06 AM)
Don't need Singpass to check. Here's the link if you're interested lol JobsBank

For EP application now... the employer need to provide the JobsBank application number together with the EP application. If stated in the application that there is 2 vacancies, then MOM only allow you to apply for 2 EP only. They sound alot stricter now  rclxub.gif
Actually... I interviewed with them previously before FCF rules came into play.. but because I couldn't come in immediately got rejected. Now it's like 2nd chance given  sweat.gif
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Oh... You fresh or experienced? Still working at that time?

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif If the company really wants you, normally they can settle the EP eh... Else they won't bother to offer you if they know the EP application won't pass. That's what I think la.

QUOTE(LiangZhuge @ Sep 14 2014, 03:20 AM)
I think you guys and girl has missed the point, that is to retire by 34  drool.gif
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biggrin.gif If want retire by 34, maybe can take part time project back in M'sia after that. Got few bucket of gold to use in case of emergency mah biggrin.gif

QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 14 2014, 09:25 AM)
cos our adopted home now most expensive city in the world but my salary only $30k pa, how to lighten family burden when sendiri oso need to do karang guni part time on weekends?

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30k pa should be enough to help family in M"sia d right? Unless family all in SG then don't say la biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by IwanAGP: Sep 14 2014, 09:56 AM
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post Sep 14 2014, 10:09 AM

Surfing LYN instead of Working.
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 14 2014, 09:54 AM)
30k pa should be enough to help family in M"sia d right?
my rental alone is 26k

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