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Working in Singapore V16, Badminton 04th Oct @ Sportshub
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IwanAGP
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Sep 15 2014, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 15 2014, 09:25 PM) I see. okok. That's great Hope I can find similar opportunity as well  Just focus with your current one first. If developed well enough, you might not even need to go abroad. Can stay in this rojak country more  Although in my honest opinion, Singapore is even more rojak. It's a super rojak. Especially when you work in construction. Really rojak!
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sheng291
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Sep 15 2014, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 15 2014, 09:28 PM) Just focus with your current one first. If developed well enough, you might not even need to go abroad. Can stay in this rojak country more  Although in my honest opinion, Singapore is even more rojak. It's a super rojak. Especially when you work in construction. Really rojak!  haha, I wanna go abroad not becuz of pay la, but experiences. Wanna try stay in different places before settling down 1st..last time tried korea ad..hope gt chance to go europe haha. last time I worked in Msia construction also similar, but I guess yours 1 might be even worse.haha btw what project you doing now? MRT project?
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IwanAGP
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Sep 15 2014, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 15 2014, 10:03 PM) haha, I wanna go abroad not becuz of pay la, but experiences. Wanna try stay in different places before settling down 1st..last time tried korea ad..hope gt chance to go europe haha. last time I worked in Msia construction also similar, but I guess yours 1 might be even worse.haha btw what project you doing now? MRT project? haha... Not big project la... Small sesame company only. But in small company good to get experiences la. Everything also must know
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sheng291
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Sep 15 2014, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 15 2014, 10:08 PM) haha... Not big project la... Small sesame company only. But in small company good to get experiences la. Everything also must know  aiyo, small company also can involved in big project ma.. the company that offered me hvac engineer oso not that big.but involved in changi terminal 4.. yea la.now experience most important.hehe
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IwanAGP
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Sep 15 2014, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 15 2014, 10:21 PM) aiyo, small company also can involved in big project ma.. the company that offered me hvac engineer oso not that big.but involved in changi terminal 4.. yea la.now experience most important.hehe Sometimes big company... All too specific d. Constraint by the company itself. You do just your part. Done your part, get ready for next project. The cycle keeps going on and on... Only in a small company you have to handle everything you can think of  Anyway... Still just a stepping stone. Gain enough experience then it's time to cabut.
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sheng291
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Sep 15 2014, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Sep 15 2014, 10:49 PM) Sometimes big company... All too specific d. Constraint by the company itself. You do just your part. Done your part, get ready for next project. The cycle keeps going on and on... Only in a small company you have to handle everything you can think of  Anyway... Still just a stepping stone. Gain enough experience then it's time to cabut. woo, good attitude, keep it up! hehe. yea, after got experience can cabut for better opportunity out there.. currently i should be heading to M&E , if next time I go singapore then nid your 'assistance' ad
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IwanAGP
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Sep 15 2014, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 15 2014, 10:56 PM) woo, good attitude, keep it up! hehe. yea, after got experience can cabut for better opportunity out there.. currently i should be heading to M&E , if next time I go singapore then nid your 'assistance' ad   I might not be here anymore? Many seniors here. Ask them better
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hotpie
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Sep 15 2014, 11:19 PM
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New Member
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Hi everyone!
I remember someone posted a similar question here regarding travelling to senai airport from sg on a fri evening.
I'll be travelling there in the morning on sat, 9.50 am flight. Let's say i need catch the 7am airport bus from JB CIQ,
1) is it risky to take the earliest causeway link bus from queen st at 6am (i'm staying in the east)? 2) or should i head to kranji instead, at 6am also? 3) would it be crowded at the checkpoint on a sat morning?
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Fiona Chin
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Sep 16 2014, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 15 2014, 06:00 PM) Welding inspector arent labourers since we just do periodic inspections and some of us are cooped in our office pouring over documentation pertaining to welding procedures etc. The laborers would be the fitters and grinder workers, even welders in korea are regarded as professionals and not laborers. People would look at you like how you look at fitters and grinders. Fitters and grinders may think they are professional too in their own aspect. Even my hubby who has this professional engineer license I still think he is a laborer same class with the mangala workers. My company provide funds for projects, during meetings with those professionals, developer, architect, engineer, contractor, bla bla bla, they look all same to me, people who get the job done, same like the carpenter who do my closet, no people at my side really care what certification they have and how hard to get it.
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crapp0
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Sep 16 2014, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Sep 16 2014, 01:16 AM) People would look at you like how you look at fitters and grinders. Fitters and grinders may think they are professional too in their own aspect. Even my hubby who has this professional engineer license I still think he is a laborer same class with the mangala workers. My company provide funds for projects, during meetings with those professionals, developer, architect, engineer, contractor, bla bla bla, they look all same to me, people who get the job done, same like the carpenter who do my closet, no people at my side really care what certification they have and how hard to get it. Must be tough for a husband whose wifey views his husband as a laborer. Very singaporean i might add. This post has been edited by crapp0: Sep 16 2014, 07:54 AM
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crapp0
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Sep 16 2014, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 15 2014, 09:25 PM) I see. okok. That's great Hope I can find similar opportunity as well  If your still young, the money will come, no worries about that, the issue is what does it take to get to that position. But what alot of singaporean employers like to complain and is partially true is that alot of people now use singapore as a "launch pad" for their foray into "international markets". What experience i gained in singapore was the stepping stone i needed to branch out, first as a contract staff for local market (singapore), then overseas projects. Not to say that projects within singapore arent lucrative, but more often than not the singapore HQ will underpay you even if your a professional due to being asian in an asian environment. Except of course korea and japan for some odd reason.
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sheng291
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Sep 16 2014, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 16 2014, 07:33 AM) If your still young, the money will come, no worries about that, the issue is what does it take to get to that position. But what alot of singaporean employers like to complain and is partially true is that alot of people now use singapore as a "launch pad" for their foray into "international markets". What experience i gained in singapore was the stepping stone i needed to branch out, first as a contract staff for local market (singapore), then overseas projects. Not to say that projects within singapore arent lucrative, but more often than not the singapore HQ will underpay you even if your a professional due to being asian in an asian environment. Except of course korea and japan for some odd reason. Hmm..so far I cnt get into any MNC in S'pore, and that's why I choose to currently stay in Msia instead to work for a japan company.. I get what you mean, but when I was in Korea, being an asian in an asian environment dis quite similar here..maybe diff if I could master the korean language.
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crapp0
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Sep 16 2014, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Sep 16 2014, 09:15 AM) Hmm..so far I cnt get into any MNC in S'pore, and that's why I choose to currently stay in Msia instead to work for a japan company.. I get what you mean, but when I was in Korea, being an asian in an asian environment dis quite similar here..maybe diff if I could master the korean language. Btw, i dont work for a korean company which would most likely require me to learn korean. I am not sure about the similar environment since i find it different than singapore or malaysia.
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jungyu
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Sep 16 2014, 12:53 PM
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need advice, if sign a agreement with company but havent started working and another company counter offer and if i want to accept, possible? what should i do?
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ch_teo
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Sep 16 2014, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 16 2014, 07:25 AM) Must be tough for a husband whose wifey views his husband as a laborer. Very singaporean i might add. certain people who regards welding inspector as laborer may not known the powerful of certified Welding Inspector like CSWIP. the same applies for PE. This post has been edited by ch_teo: Sep 16 2014, 01:25 PM
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crapp0
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Sep 16 2014, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(ch_teo @ Sep 16 2014, 01:24 PM) certain people who regards welding inspector as laborer may not known the powerful of certified Welding Inspector like CSWIP. the same applies for PE. I am CSWIP certified, luckily took that over the practically useless AWS certifications which is worth wet paper to most clients. But then again failure rate of CSWIP examinations are abnormally high, around 70-80% failure rate. I am not too familiar with PE but if i am not mistaken the bodies certification takes around 3-5 years? This post has been edited by crapp0: Sep 16 2014, 01:30 PM
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Fiona Chin
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Sep 16 2014, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(ch_teo @ Sep 16 2014, 01:24 PM) certain people who regards welding inspector as laborer may not known the powerful of certified Welding Inspector like CSWIP. the same applies for PE. Auditor? As the name suggest, welding inspector do inspection, walk around look look see see with engineers' drawings, like a technician, know how but don't know why. I won't call my car mechanic a professional, even if its bm certified. Title inflation spread out from banking already?
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razo2
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Sep 16 2014, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Sep 16 2014, 01:16 AM) People would look at you like how you look at fitters and grinders. Fitters and grinders may think they are professional too in their own aspect. Even my hubby who has this professional engineer license I still think he is a laborer same class with the mangala workers. My company provide funds for projects, during meetings with those professionals, developer, architect, engineer, contractor, bla bla bla, they look all same to me, people who get the job done, same like the carpenter who do my closet, no people at my side really care what certification they have and how hard to get it. Typical in every engineering work. No matter what color, position and skills still have to bend over to let the client bang us. Then bring you out at site to cook and work a little more then bring back to office to bang again. <repeat from monday to sunday>
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JohnJon82
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Sep 16 2014, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Sep 16 2014, 01:16 AM) People would look at you like how you look at fitters and grinders. Fitters and grinders may think they are professional too in their own aspect. Even my hubby who has this professional engineer license I still think he is a laborer same class with the mangala workers. My company provide funds for projects, during meetings with those professionals, developer, architect, engineer, contractor, bla bla bla, they look all same to me, people who get the job done, same like the carpenter who do my closet, no people at my side really care what certification they have and how hard to get it. He got his chartered already? New company got opening or not? QUOTE(razo2 @ Sep 16 2014, 04:13 PM) Typical in every engineering work. No matter what color, position and skills still have to bend over to let the client bang us. Then bring you out at site to cook and work a little more then bring back to office to bang again. <repeat from monday to sunday> See whose back mountain stronger one. If your background mt. everest client also stand aside.
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sheng291
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Sep 16 2014, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Sep 16 2014, 09:25 AM) Btw, i dont work for a korean company which would most likely require me to learn korean. I am not sure about the similar environment since i find it different than singapore or malaysia. I see. I understand that, but for a fresh grad like me, it is kinda impossible to enter a foreign project. I will try work hard for that. Thanks for widen my view.
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