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davidke20
post Apr 9 2014, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 9 2014, 08:39 PM)
ah a friend also mentioned using handbrake to assist... hmm if i semi declutch  it wouldn't it burn my clutch or something?

like when it's go time do i still keep it semi declutch or do i just fully declutch?
when you mention semi declutch, the car would still be on standstill right? or would it start to creep already?
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Standstill, and yes the point that clutch disc is burning but the car aint moving that point. Use to hold for uphill slope without brake.

Jump the clutch I mentioned, meaning when you have the green light you'll remove your left foot from clutch pedal very quickly. If that point of time your gas pedal wasn't at your top torque output, your car will stall instead of drop RPM to beginning of torque band. Go try 1st, stop asking until you tried.
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post Apr 9 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 9 2014, 08:49 PM)
Standstill, and yes the point that clutch disc is burning but the car aint moving that point. Use to hold for uphill slope without brake.

Jump the clutch I mentioned, meaning when you have the green light you'll remove your left foot from clutch pedal very quickly. If that point of time your gas pedal wasn't at your top torque output, your car will stall instead of drop RPM to beginning of torque band. Go try 1st, stop asking until you tried.
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post Apr 9 2014, 10:26 PM

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post Apr 9 2014, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 9 2014, 05:55 PM)
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1st work with the torque graph. Find out the tallest torque/power output spot, that's where you jam your right foot on. Semi declutch like you're on a traffic light waiting it to turn green, if you're not too familiar can use handbrake assistance.

Once you're ready to launch, jump the clutch pedal and wait for clutch to bind with your flywheel, will usually have a short clutch spin. Your torque output should stay within range. The above example should be launching around 6krpm or 5.5krpm to be safe. Once the clutch fully bite, you're safe from wheelspun(unless you're using some really crappy hard compound tayar).

Lastly when you feel the grip, full toto! That's it.
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good info...thankss biggrin.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 12:05 AM

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Today I just realized Nankang tires is named after a place in Taiwan blink.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 9 2014, 08:39 PM)
ah a friend also mentioned using handbrake to assist... hmm if i semi declutch  it wouldn't it burn my clutch or something?

like when it's go time do i still keep it semi declutch or do i just fully declutch?
when you mention semi declutch, the car would still be on standstill right? or would it start to creep already?
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Practice makes perfect...pls go try 1st
asrul
post Apr 10 2014, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 9 2014, 05:48 PM)
shakehead.gif Then dream on, punk.  whistling.gif
hmm.gif Now use 3D Bluray already. Why still stuck on DVD?  brows.gif
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why still got people use bluray?

netflix ftw brows.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 9 2014, 06:00 PM)
The reason ayam on Marathoner is because I'm not a person who buys warranty, I rather to have discount then peace of mind. My car break down probably more than you go shit the can. For me, R3 is my philosophy. Race, Rosak, Repair. I just refuse to pay anything upfront, and I trust my bat3 can last me atleast 2 years to begin with. Warranty is very useful when it can be EXECUTED, on the other side if I'm on Marathoner and on the 13 months so happen it really KO without reason, then I rugi lor whistling.gif Put you in the same shoe, you'll be getting a new Ultramax by then and probably last you another 2 years. RM250 for 13 months + another expected lifespan of 2 years! Wohoooo!!!! icon_idea.gif
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Ultramax is 21 months.
Anyway rike I said, cannot compare actual life span. Because how long each battery can use after the expected 12/21 months is by luck.
Rike I said, some pepel used more than 18 mths oso not yet kong.
some pepel used 13 months kong d.
same goes with Ultramax, can kong on 22nd month but who knows it can last until 3 yrs on other ah beng cars.
just like our stock ramcar batt, some ppl <1.5 yrs kong liao, mine 2 years kong.
IINM some used >2.5 yrs only kong.
cam mana nak compare ni.

Even if you do testing (1st time use marathoner, 2nd time use ultramax) yourself, you still cannot compare btw the both in terms of actual life span.
This is because there is no guaranteed actual life span.
There is only a guaranteed actual min. life span (of coz under expected working condition) which is 12 months for marathoner and 21 for ultramax.
No point talking abt how long each model can last in terms of actual usage life time as it is not something that can be compared to begin with.
The only thing that can be compared is the warranty period and the cost for both models.

Not a matter of buying warranty or what. Yes, you are right, I am also looking discounts.
I did the maths before buying.
150 = 12 months = RM12.50
250 = 21 months = RM11.90
So, IMHO, I think it's better for me take ultramax for a lower cost & longer period of peace of mind.
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 9 2014, 07:19 PM)
Not all, recycle oil can be filtered until very clean and looks good. But it's very dangerous for machines because those recycled oil degrade extremely fast. I go for cheap but reputable mineral oil because cheap oil nobody wanna brand them with recycle oil due to profit margin. Otherwise when I'm on for semi or full synthetics, I'll go for Tesco. In anycase if Tesco dare to recycle their engine oil, I know who to sue and rest assured I'm going to be damn rich whistling.gif
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yesterday saw promo price rm42.50 at tesco cheras. but promo until yesterday only. but you said rm48 good enough. next time will hunt tesco oil. thumbup.gif if mahihi can help buy bardahl for rm65, i'll take that. got offer petro-canada mineral rm85, semi rm100 from sarjantulang

QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Apr 9 2014, 08:26 PM)
i got mine for 180.. kena tetak leher d.. but no choice coz i called the list of melaka dealers all selling 180-200 for marathoner  doh.gif
and out of 10 dealers 8 of them don't have ultramax. The others i didn't call coz too far from my place.
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rm180 is not harga tetak leher. it's that harga with trade in old battery. david also said rm160 with trade in. so it's reasonable.
rm220 is real tetak leher harga. but i don't really care. battery sudah pasang. kereta can gerak. what to worry.
the important thing is, you solved the problem, then later if problem, u don't have u ask again, can straight away go solve the problem urself. you can roughly estimate the battery life. so, after 1 year use battery, can prepare to change again battery lor.
marathoner is just good enough.
QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Apr 10 2014, 09:04 AM)
150 = 12 months = RM12.50
250 = 21 months = RM11.90
So, IMHO, I think it's better for me take ultramax for a lower cost & longer period of peace of mind.
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whatdehell woof woof calculation logic is that.
aiyo u no need to repeat your explanation la. everybody understand what are you trying to say. doh.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2014, 01:05 AM)
Today I just realized Nankang tires is named after a place in Taiwan blink.gif
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bring back nankang tyres as souvenir. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(asrul @ Apr 10 2014, 08:28 AM)
why still got people use bluray?

netflix ftw  brows.gif
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i seldom use dvd, bluray tak pernah, netflix lagi la. ayam totally depends on astro. many movies also i slowpoke didn't watch. movies after 1 year masuk astro baru dapat tengok. ironman3 dah record pvr pun belum tengok lagi. i belum lagi di-pacific rimmed kan.
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Apr 10 2014, 07:28 AM)
why still got people use bluray?

netflix ftw  brows.gif
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blink.gif Netflix got JAV? blink.gif Netflix got 1080P? shakehead.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 10 2014, 08:50 AM)
bring back nankang tyres as souvenir.  whistling.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 10 2014, 08:54 AM)
blink.gif Netflix got JAV?  blink.gif Netflix got 1080P?  shakehead.gif
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who cares bout JAV when u can make your own brows.gif
iskazulka
post Apr 10 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 10 2014, 09:54 AM)
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don't tell me dares actually go tour at nankang factory during his honeymoon there. laugh.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Apr 10 2014, 09:56 AM)
who cares bout JAV  when u can make your own  brows.gif
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ini budak tak cukup umur lagi ni.. doh.gif whistling.gif

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post Apr 10 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Apr 10 2014, 08:56 AM)
who cares bout JAV  when u can make your own  brows.gif
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yawn.gif No drillz provided. GTFO. whistling.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 10 2014, 08:58 AM)
ini budak tak cukup umur lagi ni..  doh.gif  whistling.gif
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:32 AM

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now 9,000 km on semi synthetic. enjin rasa berat wooo. vroom2 tarak syok,
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Apr 10 2014, 10:32 AM)
now 9,000 km on semi synthetic. enjin rasa berat wooo. vroom2 tarak syok,
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apa minyak lu pakei? apa bikin 9k? orang 5k lor. i max pun pakai 7k. u try la petro canada semi. sarjantulang claim can use 15k, even 20k. mau cuba?

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Apr 10 2014, 09:32 AM)
now 9,000 km on semi synthetic. enjin rasa berat wooo. vroom2 tarak syok,
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sleep.gif Semi use until 5k nia. Inb4 ruby woof woof see u no up.
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post Apr 10 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 10 2014, 10:57 AM)
sleep.gif Semi use until 5k nia. Inb4 ruby woof woof see u no up.
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new SC policy can service every 10k use semi?

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