well said, alkin.
the hobby cannot afford to lose you lah yew lin.

anyway, just a story about LFS, to make you happier.
I went to the small stall in a shopping mall.
I asked him what fish is this (I knew what it was) and he told me it's a halfmoon.
I said, 'wah! halfmoon ar? can see him 'open up' (flare lah. didn't want to appear to know about bettas). I heard halfmoon very rare lah. must be expensive. How much ar?'

He said 'RM60'
Then I said, 'Eh, this is not a halfmoon lah. It's a super delta only. Where got so expensive? Some more, got red wash.'

Then he knew I know about bettas.
His explanation was, 'oh. you're right. but most customers don't know about other types of betta. So I tell them it's halfmoon lah'

Imagine, people like that, irresponsible sellers.

So in your case, yewlin, maybe the LFS showed him a SD and he thought it was a halfmoon.

hi ivan and alkin,

i believe most of the customer want cheap and show grade bettas. So wonder it is better i just stop the betta focus on other fish so that i won't heard them tell me want cheap cheap fish but must show grade betta.

fyi, in HK they can get show grade fish in 80-120HKD only from thailand somemore. Time will show in Malaysia for the same situation also..and i just sold off my red hm there for 90HKD after the shows. I believe that will be my last show from my own breed line. will direct import the fish if got big competition next time and sell off after the show end.

This is just my 0.002cents own opinion.

Yewlin, you can't compare the price in different country. Hong Kong bettas can sell so cheap is because they getting in bulk from those breeder. And in this case, normally betta breeder will not choosing one by one when that time, and they will ship out their bulk fish so that sometime outsider will get best fish in low price as well.

Beside that, using ownbreed fish for competition or buying oversea breeder fish taking part competition was different feelings. As you know if you win the prize using ownbreed fishes, you are more respect by others where it your ownbreed fishes. If you bought and win, some people knew that from which breeder and end up they go buy the breeder fish. Of course buying fishes from oversea breeder is good too where u can use for comp, after comp you can do it as your breeder fish and improve your line. You taking not much competition yet, so i believe one day you will knew what the different on it...And your mindset will totally thinking different.

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Added on August 29, 2007, 7:38 amMalaysia fighting fish market is quite low, also that the price of the fighting was not stable enough. Not like goldfish, arowana...

As we knew, although fighting fish in Malaysia already how many years, but people still dun understand about fighting fish. They are lack in education about fighting fish. Few question always in their mind...

1. What is Betta?
2. Fighting fish is for fight until die. Fight for money.
3. Fighting fish selling RM1 each, how come yours selling RM100+? Crazy ar?

When we meet this kind of customer, we should not get angry or chasing him away. We should educate them and provide them the real information, let them know what is betta, what are the species and so on. Best is we can show them in real fish or picture to show them, not using past few years picture la.

Not only this, i think malaysia market price to state at average cost first, not so high unless the quality is perfect. Because some of them would like to try but can't affort it. I believe we sold them in average cost so they can buy the pair and spawn themself and experience it.

Market is everywhere, but you need to get it yourself, not waiting they coming. Even on internet you also can sold some fishes, for sure you need to take the picture of the item you want to sell. That is the best way to sold your fishes quickly. Malaysia is bigger than Singapore, so your customer will be at other state like johor, penang and so on. I think if you want sell your fish, put it on every forum for sales, not just 1 - 2 forum. That not enough, also not everyone will be at same forum here.

This post has been edited by sai136: Aug 29 2007, 07:38 AM

Looks like I've been neglecting this thread for too long.
It's fallen behind in terms of hit count.

All the betta sifus busy?

Anyway, today I went to see some of the young bettas my uncle has in a tank.... saw a very odd plakat.... it was white with a few black dots....

please post photo as we can't analyse from what ur details given, cause it might be an ailments....
else it might be a new species

Here is the pic.... Not ailment lah ahahah.... is the colour. A young Plakat.

waa.. so clean wan the colour...except for the black specks...

i think it's female
but i can't confirm it will be CT or HM...

it's a female, but it's neither CT nor HM, juz a normal one...

Yah, it is just a normal plakat. I don't have any HMPK or CT loh heheheh....

There is another one which has no black specks at all, my uncle gonna keep that.

nice fish there...

any competition now? if so will start to import fish

new in keeping betta... so basically jus not sure all the thing, jus know that got betta, jus put inside a tank with water, then feed it can already...
is it like that one ar ??? last few day i jus bought a pack of young betta la...
around 10-15 for a small pack for rm 2. bought back still ok... the next morning i see jus left for about 4or 5 already, all others die...
then later on jus left one, now also die already... why ar ?

You bettas very sensitive to water conditions..... they can get sick or bacteria infested easily if the water is wrong. Better you buy an adult, more stable in health and can withstand water conditions better.

you put all betta in one tank ah?

yaya, i put all the betta in one tank lo, since they are young, jus samll, then i jus put them together lo...

was wondering guys, how much does betta persephone(yes, the Ayer Itam betta persephone) cost in the market?
am writing/compiling articles on it and need some information

guyss... my betta's tummy is bloated.. is it some sickness?? i feed him the normal betta food..

is it because of the food?

could be dropsy...or could be that your betta is fat

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Added on September 25, 2007, 9:12 am

I do not agree that the price of fighting fish is not stable...it is relatively stable because most home breeders do not simply dump(sell all) their culls to LFSs...There is also a reason y most LFSs do not manage to create good quality lines because it is not very profittable and it is very time consuming and tedious.

However, I do notice a price drop for HMs within the past few years...its mainly because supply is higher than demand. 7 years back when i was an active betta hobbyist...1 pair of turqoise HMs can go for RM250... nowadays...go to Penang pond oso can catch (P/S: i know who dumped there )

Most Malaysians tend to lack education about fish in general....like arowana and the dreaded flowerhorn....most ppl just pay high prices for it regardless of the quality of the fish as these fish are supposed to be good 'feng shui' fish.

This post has been edited by ynneb25: Sep 25 2007, 09:12 AM

aiyo...put all together will make them fight lor...of course will dead lah.... , small doesn't mean didn't fight mah....