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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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stevenryl86
post May 14 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 05:10 PM)
ppl can salvage BoP now. completely utterly useless now without rally.
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Since I'm on CDR build the Condemn+BOP still works well for me though.
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post May 14 2014, 05:21 PM

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6 pcs akkhan with focus on CDR still much desired for continue spamming HF aka shotgun.
Permanent Akkarat champion with wrath regen rune will let u spam it continuous.
You need around 52% CDR for perma AC. I still 1 pc away to achieve 6 pcs bonus. Will continue to gamble on pant now since Kadala can give Torment Set pieces
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post May 14 2014, 05:50 PM

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Shattering throw is so broken, blessed shield without any runes does more DPS. this is so messed up. Unruned BS does 430% for all the main bounce while Shattering throw doesnt.

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post May 14 2014, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ May 14 2014, 05:19 PM)
Since I'm on CDR build the Condemn+BOP still works well for me though.
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U lose shitloads of DPS dude. Go FotF and shotgun.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 05:50 PM)
Shattering throw is so broken, blessed shield without any runes does more DPS. this is so messed up. Unruned BS does 430% for all the main bounce while Shattering throw doesnt.
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Seriously without rune beats with any rune?
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post May 14 2014, 06:01 PM

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Does attack speed affect on casting HF shotgun?
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post May 14 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ May 14 2014, 05:58 PM)
Seriously without rune beats with any rune?
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yeah
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post May 14 2014, 06:11 PM

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woo hoo just now tried run bounties in T2, clear all 5 bounties under 15 minutes... yes using shattering throw.

Tonight will tried using BS without any rune and see how. (or may be piercing shield)

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post May 14 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 14 2014, 01:37 PM)
haha ok, unfortunately, getting full set of akkhan is a big challenge...  rclxub.gif
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Kadala, Cache. It's MUCH easier than before where the whole loot table is random and when a green boot drops you get a BT and not knowing when is the next green you'll see. With kadala, you will get it. Perhaps even more BT in between but you are only getting BOOTS leg from her until you see an akkhan. Good luck.

QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 01:43 PM)
Thanks for confirming... Now I don't look like an idiot not enchant arcane dmg to holy dmg hahaha ...

Hmmm with all these new changes, I might consider going back to 2hd , like you've said, 1hd now cannot compete with 2hd.... Sigh... Just when I was about to enjoy spamming BShield...
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1H is not utterly useless I think, I was just saying you can still get 0 wrath cost (regen back) with a 2hander while throwing shields and get much higher dmg in the cost of lower ASPD. Which is why Fervor is there, the only thing 1Hand has in advantage now is ASPD, so fervor gives you ASPD AND CDR. They can compete with 2hander with a very different play style. I didn't test enough to know yet but I'll get my 1hander builds starting tonight.


Sidenote : BoP is still good. And there is a different type of BoP build now with falling sword and such. Basically you need to use all your skills then activate akarat's then use all your skills again. Then start spender-ing and rinse and repeat.
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post May 14 2014, 06:22 PM

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without rune, all your bounces including from jekang will get dmg bonuses form blockchance and 20% bonus from Towering shield. With shattering throw only 1 of your throw the 1st one will get bonus the rest is 170% constant.
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post May 14 2014, 07:08 PM

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Bro,
You just found a bug. Keep it low. smile.gif
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post May 14 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ May 14 2014, 07:08 PM)
Bro,
You just found a bug. Keep it low. smile.gif
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no all bounces should do max dmg. if its a bug then it breaking shattering throw

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post May 14 2014, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 06:22 PM)
without rune, all your bounces including from jekang will get dmg bonuses form blockchance and 20% bonus from Towering shield. With shattering throw only 1 of your throw the 1st one will get bonus the rest is 170% constant.
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That means you will need jekangbord to do this (for the additional bounces)

Nice find biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 06:22 PM)
without rune, all your bounces including from jekang will get dmg bonuses form blockchance and 20% bonus from Towering shield. With shattering throw only 1 of your throw the 1st one will get bonus the rest is 170% constant.
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Thanks Bush, OOPS I means Frostlance Bro, gotta spend all my BS for Jekang and then run naked blessed shield~~~

B4 that, lemme try if piercing shield will do. (Since it still go through multiple targets)

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post May 15 2014, 12:56 AM

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Ok tried BS for 10 minutes before maintenance start:

No Rune:
- Strongest at the moment, great at melting down large number of mob. Work best with Jekang. (Even better THAN shattering throw!)

Piercing Shield:
- Noticeable lower dps for unknown reason. My crit was like 1 mil less when using this rune.
- Direct attack, need to aim, and need to find where the mob crowd for best effect.
- Knock back proc rate are high on white mob, sometime can keep certain tougher white mob in the air. (like executioner) However noticeable lower proc rate on elite.

I still don't have jekang, not sure how shattering throw perform if with jekang. In case it still perform high crit on first hit when paired with Jekang, I'll say shattering throw is completely worthless now.

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Big typo

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post May 15 2014, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ May 14 2014, 05:21 PM)
6 pcs akkhan with focus on CDR still much desired for continue spamming HF aka shotgun.
Permanent Akkarat champion with wrath regen rune will let u spam it continuous.
You need around 52% CDR for perma AC. I still 1 pc away to achieve 6 pcs bonus. Will continue to gamble on pant now since Kadala can give Torment Set pieces
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yeah this seems to be what cookiemanner is using hmm.gif
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post May 15 2014, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ May 14 2014, 07:08 PM)
Bro,
You just found a bug. Keep it low. smile.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 07:20 PM)
no all bounces should do max dmg. if its a bug then it breaking shattering throw
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 08:04 PM)
That means you will need jekangbord to do this (for the additional bounces)

Nice find biggrin.gif
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Not a bug.

1. Original BS only bounces on 1 target and will not bounce back.

2. Shattering throw does not have the bounce but rather, is split into 3 BUT has the tendency to bounce back.




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post May 15 2014, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ May 15 2014, 01:46 AM)
Not a bug.

1. Original BS only bounces on 1 target and will not bounce back.

2. Shattering throw does not have the bounce but rather, is split into 3 BUT has the tendency to bounce back.
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well its broken since with the dmg nerf, unruned BS does more DPS than shattering throw.
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post May 15 2014, 07:17 AM

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Guys is it me or akarat with rally rune is broken? It doesnt reduce other skills cooldown when active, not sure if they fixed it with 1 hour maintenance last nite tho
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post May 15 2014, 08:39 AM

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my poor crusader...advice pls...

been gambling/hunting but no decent set so far

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