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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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FrostLance
post May 13 2014, 05:18 PM

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condemned crusader is dead
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post May 13 2014, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 13 2014, 05:09 PM)
huge nerf to blessed shield as well.
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Blessed Sheild got increase dmg rite?
And also there is passive which increase 20% more dmg also?



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Towering Shield Increase the damage of Punish, Shield Bash and Blessed Shield by 20%. / Reduce the cooldown of Shield Glare by 30%. (Reworked from: Gain Block Chance every second, which resets with blocking)

Blessed Shield Cost: 20 Wrath / Hurl your shield, dealing 430% weapon damage as Holy plus 250% of shield Block Chance as Holy damage. The shield will ricochet to 3 nearby enemies. (Up from 340%, damage element now specified)
Combust : The shield erupts in flames and has a 33% chance to explode on impact, dealing 310% weapon damage as Fire to all enemies within 10 yards. (Up from 270%, distance up from 8 yards)
Shattering Throw : When the shield hits an enemy, it splits into 3 small fragments that bounce between nearby enemies, dealing 170% weapon damage as Holy to all enemies hit. (Up from 50%, damage element now specified)
There is also

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Fervor While wielding a one-handed weapon, your attack speed is increased by 15% and all cooldowns are reduced by 15%. (Reworked from: When an enemy dies nearby you gain Attack Speed)


For whom using that single blessed sheild flail?

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FrostLance
post May 13 2014, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ May 13 2014, 07:02 PM)
Blessed Sheild got increase dmg rite?

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Freaking Huge DPS nerf.. tooltip is wrong, currently its 333% not 50% as stated in tool tip, will drop to 160/170

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post May 13 2014, 10:40 PM

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SWEET with 960% weapon damage of Fires Of Heavens
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post May 14 2014, 12:31 AM

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GG, my blessed shield shattering throw look kinda low now. The bounce damage less around 75% from first initial damage.. >.>
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post May 14 2014, 05:34 AM

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I've switched to heavens fury, now that they DESTROYED the instant spam recast for condemn builds in T6.

This is my new build

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it's probably possible to replace the shield block passive to towering shield for the dmg bonus for shield bash, and use punish for block.

Or, i can give up punish for some other skill, while keeping the block passive.

Or i can instead use a helm of rule block helm.


These are the options to hit the 75% block cap to maximize damage on shield bash whos damage modifier is affected by block chance.


An eberli charlo isn't going to make much use of block chance for much damage mitigation compared to say a criterion, but the reason i use it is for the huge cooldown reduction for instant recast for heaven's fury ascendency, which was how i was playing my build before my T6 condemn build.

So using an eberli charlo, there no reason you have to use a block chance build like mine, just that now that blessed shield got nerfed, and i'm using the jaekabong shield, i decided to go back to shield bash because of the buffs.



I honestly feel that blizzard has screwed up big, by nerfing condemn into the ground. They were worried that people were mashing few keys together, well thats how the build works to get much usefullness out of it. And from my observation and experience farming T6 with condemn build, it was well done, but then blizzard had to screw it up ........ i hope somebody starts a petition so that they restore condemn to it's former CDR instant spam build .....


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post May 14 2014, 06:40 AM

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Massive nerf on BS shatter AoE damage but on single target with Phalanx + Heavens Fury its a buff. I kinda like the way it is now. Yes the damage has been significantly nerfed but with towering shield 20%, its still ok.
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post May 14 2014, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 13 2014, 08:00 PM)
Freaking Huge DPS nerf.. tooltip is wrong, currently its 333% not 50% as stated in tool tip, will drop to 160/170
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Wow just wow... Finally got my gyrfalcon 1 day before patch and this happened.. Really got trolled by blizzard... Lol

Hopefully with the new buffs from passives... Blessed shield build is still viable

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Moogle Stiltzkin
post May 14 2014, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 08:11 AM)
Wow just wow... Finally got my gyrfalcon 1 day before patch and this happened.. Really got trolled by blizzard... Lol

Hopefully with the new buffs from passives... Blessed shield build is still viable
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i think you need to use the passives and stacks before you can assess how good blessed shield is now.

you must take into account that passives have been boosted for 1 hander dmg, so maybe that offsets the nerfs in bs skill.

but then again people may switch to fist of the heaven instead using dark light doh.gif


ANyhow i am streamin so you can see how well my build works in T6
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 08:11 AM)
Wow just wow... Finally got my gyrfalcon 1 day before patch and this happened.. Really got trolled by blizzard... Lol

Hopefully with the new buffs from passives... Blessed shield build is still viable
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Ikr! I obtain my 1st falcon on Monday night and kinda shock last night shattering got nerf..
But still okay cos got passive buff
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post May 14 2014, 08:54 AM

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Could go for fire build using Combust for BS then Shield Bash Crumble + Blessed Hammer burning wrath. Looks to be quite viable with high damage potential for Falcon+Jekang
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post May 14 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 14 2014, 08:54 AM)
Could go for fire build using Combust for BS then Shield Bash Crumble + Blessed Hammer burning wrath. Looks to be quite viable with high damage potential for Falcon+Jekang
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combust is stack fire though ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 14 2014, 09:06 AM)
combust is stack fire though ?  hmm.gif
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yeah besides the holy which is what most falcon+jekang Cru uses, the next option would be fire. Looks like have to roll new sets.. hmmm... luckily my barb got cindercoat.
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post May 14 2014, 10:04 AM

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Looks like i have to take my barbs fire gears to test BS.. Btw just drop fotf & 3rd piece of on my other cru.. Decent dps.. Having fun with shot gun now.. Hehe
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post May 14 2014, 10:11 AM

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wow... after the patch my WIP Falcon crusader 'suddenly' became a 700k dps dude :yay:

Anyway I see the shattering throw bounce dmg had been nerfed a lot, but it's still quite alright since I can crit 5-6m to first target, around 1.5 mil to other targets. Still quite ok to survive in T2 solo, or T3 group.
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post May 14 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 14 2014, 10:11 AM)
wow... after the patch my WIP Falcon crusader 'suddenly' became a 700k dps dude :yay:

Anyway I see the shattering throw bounce dmg had been nerfed a lot, but it's still quite alright since I can crit 5-6m to first target, around 1.5 mil to other targets. Still quite ok to survive in T2 solo, or T3 group.
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no longer T6 viable. Sheet dps is crap and a lie

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post May 14 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 10:16 AM)
no longer T6 viable. Sheet dps is crap and a lie
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I knew lar, that's why I keep boosting atk speed (needed for BS build) and holy damage. And I think sheet dps still can serve as reference, but of course not something to be proud with.

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post May 14 2014, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 14 2014, 10:21 AM)
I knew lar, that's why I keep boosting atk speed (needed for BS build) and holy damage. And I think sheet dps still can serve as reference, but of course not something to be proud with.
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well maybe combust is good. now tryng to stack up on +Fire gear
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post May 14 2014, 11:31 AM

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Falling sword with cam's rebuttal is a ton of nuke fun.

Fire crusader with FotH - Heaven's Tempest, bombardment and superheated is fun.

Holy crusader, fotf + hallowed(holy%) or lidless(holy%, aspd, rcr) or hellskull(cdr, 10%dmg). Full set akkhan's Shotgun build = 0 builder easy game.

Lightning can seriously consider FS as their main nuke now.
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post May 14 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 10:46 AM)
well maybe combust is good. now tryng to stack up on +Fire gear
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u know what... I just swtiched from fire build to holy build doh.gif (am wearing cindercoat now)

so... reroll all holy dmg back to fire? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif But the damage is slightly lower than shattering throw, and I need the healing from holy damage. hmm.gif (Holy Cause passive) I sacrificed a lot of my Vit for Crit hit chance and +% Holy dmg.

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