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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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faheem
post May 15 2014, 10:13 AM

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been running T6 with fedeo - trying shotgun build - fuhh 1 hit 25-28m

fedeo already found full set akkan - im jelly la bang. my akkan only 3 set
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post May 15 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(faheem @ May 15 2014, 10:13 AM)
been running T6 with fedeo - trying shotgun build - fuhh 1 hit 25-28m

fedeo already found full set akkan - im jelly la bang. my akkan only 3 set
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gile la main t6 skrg..xleh nk follow.. kitaorg2 ni main t3 je la.. lel laugh.gif
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post May 15 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(HeartRoxas @ May 15 2014, 01:46 AM)
Not a bug.

1. Original BS only bounces on 1 target and will not bounce back.

2. Shattering throw does not have the bounce but rather, is split into 3 BUT has the tendency to bounce back.
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yah I notice shattering throw will bounce back and hit the same target more than twice. But after the nerf, even it hit back the same target 3 times still can't make up the same dps sad.gif

Take myself for example, initial hit crit 6mil, the rest hit 1.2mil... bounce back also not powerful enough sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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post May 15 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(GameSky @ May 15 2014, 07:17 AM)
Guys is it me or akarat with rally rune is broken? It doesnt reduce other skills cooldown when active, not sure if they fixed it with 1 hour maintenance last nite tho
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Rally nerf to the ground. Bro..
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post May 15 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ May 15 2014, 10:18 AM)
gile la main t6 skrg..xleh nk follow.. kitaorg2 ni main t3 je la.. lel  laugh.gif
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hahaha.. night time play game.. day time tengok forum..

bila kerja nak buat hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post May 15 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 15 2014, 10:24 AM)
Rally nerf to the ground. Bro..
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tu la.. perasan semalam.. gonna chance wrath regen later..

saw some forum crus on fire build nice too..
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post May 15 2014, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 15 2014, 10:24 AM)
Rally nerf to the ground. Bro..
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so now back hack hack slash slash while waiting cooldown sweat.gif ... nasib ada reduce cooldown punya eq..
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post May 15 2014, 10:33 AM

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I see that's a big time improvement for whoever using Slash, hee hee that's my previous build brows.gif
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post May 15 2014, 10:52 AM

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do fist of the heaven still viable now ?
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post May 15 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ May 15 2014, 08:39 AM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kelThuz...4/hero/45449979

my poor crusader...advice pls...

been gambling/hunting but no decent set so far
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You got Jekang already, so try use Blessed Shield no rune as Frost found it make more dmg.
You need to ditch more VIT for Str and stack elemental damage on your ring, amulet. Suggest stack Holy
Craft a better Reaper wrap too.
Craft Aughild set or Captain crimson set.
Do Act 1 bounty for Ring of royal.

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FrostLance
post May 15 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 15 2014, 12:56 AM)
Ok tried BS for 10 minutes before maintenance start:

No Rune:
- Strongest at the moment, great at melting down large number of mob. Work best with Jekang. (Even better THAN shattering throw!)

Piercing Shield:
- Noticeable lower dps for unknown reason. My crit was like 1 mil less when using this rune.
- Direct attack, need to aim, and need to find where the mob crowd for best effect.
- Knock back proc rate are high on white mob, sometime can keep certain tougher white mob in the air. (like executioner) However noticeable lower proc rate on elite.

I still don't have jekang, not sure how shattering throw perform if with jekang. In case it still perform high crit on first hit when paired with Jekang, I'll say shattering throw is completely worthless now.

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Big typo
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thus im going the Fire Crusader Combust BS way.. now to change all Holy gear to fire doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post May 15 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 15 2014, 11:58 AM)
thus im going the Fire Crusader Combust BS way.. now to change all Holy gear to fireĀ  doh.gifĀ  doh.gifĀ  doh.gif
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But wont get the healing bonus from Holy Cause :S

Aiks spent so much material for holy % dmg. Good that I still keep my Cindercoat.

Also I notice the overall DMG for combust is lower than naked BS? (320% vs 430%)

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post May 15 2014, 04:20 PM

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I am really hope that blizz will create more class specific set. It will give even more diversity in build.
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post May 16 2014, 04:40 AM

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Before anyone makes any changes to Falcon + Jekang Shattered build, please look at this video :



He compensates the nerf with using Akarat's Hasteful + Fervor which results in faster Attack Speed hence still melting mobs on T6 but of course this build is heavily gear dependent.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: May 16 2014, 04:50 AM
Moogle Stiltzkin
post May 16 2014, 06:46 AM

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I've changed my heavens fury build to fires of heaven, basically based on mannercookies shotgun build.

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T6 build using iron skin
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General farm not t6, for which i use horsey instead to get around easier
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My previous concern was sustainability for fires of heaven, because it's a big resource spender. But apparently with akarat champion - embodiment of power, this is a non issue.

So the next issue is, just how fast can you recast akarat champion ? It's really CDR gear dependent, because the whole build revolves around nuking with your champ skill active or you're screwed.

And if that wasn't enough, mannercookie's healing strategy requires nice amounts of health orb bonus from secondary stats. This is for his wrathful skill that increases heal by 1% of your secondary stat amount. Not to mention he has near perfect stats for stuff like vit, str etc....

Seeing as i don't have the best gear, i ended up replacing horsey for iron skin. I also replaced wrathful for indestructible.

iron skin makes me more tanky to keep me alive while i'm nuking. It also benefits from my cdr stacks to be able to maintain iron skin as frequently as possible.

also with indestructible, this replaces the old akarat champ mechanic for preventing the 1st death blow. It however has a cooldown of 60 seconds i believe after each use. But it doesn't cancel out your akarat champion mode if you do get a death blow if i am not mistaken.

The biggest downside though for this tankier modification, is that i don't have room to fit in horsey which is extremely useful for mobility during t6 rift runs in my group. I hope that with the removal of the -15 movement speed, this will be less of an issue doh.gif



i've optimized my gear to include heavens fury into my shoulders, torso, shield.

i'm now 41.09 cdr, but thats mostly because my shield is 5cdr, and rorg is 7 cdr. amulet and weapon 0 cdr. But still it's good that i have 600+ paragorn as it gave me that free 10 cdr to make up for my gear lacking the stat. with 41.09 cdr this build is still viable.

While waiting for champ to be ready, i still fire of heaven nuke but sparingly, and using provoke for some quick top ups, as well as health orbs from my reaper bracers.

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This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 16 2014, 07:02 AM
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post May 16 2014, 08:49 AM

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Thanks for the guide Moogle... I will definitely try the build tht you are currently using as soon as I get my Akkhan pieces.... Only have the glove ... Still got 4 more pieces to get... The build might be obsolete when I get the remaining 4 pieces ... LOL
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post May 16 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 16 2014, 08:49 AM)
Thanks for the guide Moogle... I will definitely try the build tht you are currently using as soon as I get my Akkhan pieces.... Only have the glove ... Still got 4 more pieces to get... The build might be obsolete when I get the remaining 4 pieces ... LOL
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from my observation im doing 40-60m crits. thats for each of the 3 beams i shoot out every 0.5-1 seconds shocking.gif

with the power shrine i saw i hit 100-110 m per each of the 3 beams.
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 16 2014, 08:49 AM)
Thanks for the guide Moogle... I will definitely try the build tht you are currently using as soon as I get my Akkhan pieces.... Only have the glove ... Still got 4 more pieces to get... The build might be obsolete when I get the remaining 4 pieces ... LOL
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from my observation im doing 40-60m crits. thats for each of the 3 beams i shoot out every 0.5-1 seconds shocking.gif

with the power shrine i saw i hit 100-110 m per each of the 3 beams.
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post May 16 2014, 10:54 AM

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post May 16 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 16 2014, 08:56 AM)
from my observation im doing 40-60m crits. thats for each of the 3 beams i shoot out every 0.5-1 secondsĀ  shocking.gif

with the power shrine i saw i hit 100-110 m per each of the 3 beams.
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bro care to link you bnet profile. want to see you CDR distribution. No luck finding akhan glove with CDR atm. 2 piece aughild is a must for my setup now for the extra bonus.

edited: found. looks like most of ur cdr comes from ring and shield. have an aughild shoulder with 8% CDR. will try find rorg with CDR later and reroll my unity CD to CDR too. thaks for the info bro. GG

This post has been edited by fe3doe: May 16 2014, 11:39 AM

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