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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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post Mar 31 2014, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 31 2014, 02:17 AM)
attack speed alarmingly LOW !! FIX ASAP!

chc seems alrite not too urgent. but always if you can cram in more chc to hit 50 or 55, then nice.

CHD kinda low ....
ur chest and pants should have sockets.... 3 on chest, 2 on pants. Best stats is strength, vit, ares, and the sockets.....  a nice white armor is also good. extras after that e.g armor, special legendary is just icing on the cake.

anyway once u socket use the diamond gems to get your ares up. you should be able to then hit 1100-1200 ares easy.

your armor seems fine.

block chance 12 is very low .... a good shield block is normall 29 and above. with the +11 block as well.
533k hp is good but maybe you are sacrificing too much dps potential for unecessarily high hp. i'm 380 hp and doing fine.
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Just one question, what Torment are you running. T6 without sweat?

ASPD is fine, but how are you dealing with the long cooldowns? So while waiting CD you only deal dmg with wrath generator and spender?

Also, +block chance on shield is already added to the shield tool tip of total block chance. Much like weapon DPS. So you don't get +11% more block chance. Just 29 for that Sublime Conviction shield.


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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 31 2014, 09:11 AM)
i did t1-t3 with my build fine haha..  smile.gif

when using akarat's champion, very few hotl is being cast because i'm not generating wrath fast enough to spam it effectively. So my dps while waiting on heaven's fury is slashing with the zealadin attack speed buff.

so does that mean a shield showing 29 block chance, and has the 11% in the shield actually the mean isn't 29+11 = 40 block, but is 18+11 ? is that what your saying ?
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1. Considering Legs should be "End Game". You should rethink why couldn't you do a T6. Or at least a T4. With this much paragon level, This amount of AR, but only 300k+ hp, you will still get 1-2 shotted in T4 above. I'm all rares with only 2 legs, Amulet and weapon. And I'm doing T2 with 940+k dmg 11m toughness. I'm only half your Paragon levels at most. You don't need this much AR. This is no longer Inferno kind of play and AR does not increase % by much after 900 because blizzard scaled the increase of AR to gain very little after 900. They can't let you resist 99% against an element which is why if you mouse over your resist, you'll see resists are stuck at 70+%. AR 900 has resist at 75%, AR1.2k has maybe around 79/80% which makes insignificant reduction. Instead, if you use all that 300 AR on something else, you might be able to kill faster, and be more efficient in groups, yet still tank enough.

2. Perhaps you should try CDR (Cooldown Reduction). Crusader is suppose to be hard hitting but slow. I would not spend IAS on this char. I was sitting at 1m dmg and 13m toughness before. But I cannot solo T2 Elites with stupid affixes. I then change to CDR. Currently 31% CDR. My bursts like condemn CD at 10.5 Sec instead of 15. Which lets me burst down Elite packs better. Current Crusader is underpowered due to the long CD, bad wrath regen and bad spender's damage. If they fix any of the 2, then I'll start playing IAS and healing. For now, toughness + CDR wins Elites.

3. Yes, that means your shield is originally 18% Block chance, rolled a +11% which makes it 29%.



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Try increase Holy Dmg % on gear. IAS doesn't benefit all skills.
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QUOTE(SoLiD @ Mar 31 2014, 11:07 AM)
what are the most important attributes on a gear for crus iirc for def you said something like All resist > armor > hp

what about offensive?
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+ Elemental dmg % (Will not make u have big numbers on paper, but when u start hitting u can laugh at wizards)
CD, CC



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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Mar 31 2014, 12:27 PM)
what wrath generator is the best ? do u guys go with fast attack speed for fast wrath generation ?
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None. That's how bad the crusader resource management currently is. Best bet would be slash + zeal rune because IAS 1% for 3 seconds for each mob attacked and max 5 stacks. If u hit more than 2 mobs at once, you can easily get some 10-15% IAS buff at 5 stack. Which makes u generate faster. Problem is, it's melee range. And without 30% dmg reduction, crusader needs very high toughness to be able to stand and hit for long.
We're talking about Champion or Elite packs of T2 and above.
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QUOTE(Ahlok @ Mar 31 2014, 11:22 PM)
hi, sir, can post your profile link?

wanna learn how to improve my char.  thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

*u may view my char by clicking my sig.
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Changed my build last night because I decide to opt for 1H instead. Lost a ton of sheet dps but attacks much faster and crits close to before and doesn't get slowed down by heavenly strength.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Xyreon-6190/hero/44156441

Profile doesn't show rerolls, which you should prolly already know by now. I rerolled around 3 items with CDR for fast cooldowns. And others are CC and CD. My sheet dps goes down a lot but still dealing almost same damage as last time and hits much faster because of 1H skycutter : 19% added to holy damage. But I lost around 1k VIT which was on previous weapon. I decide to do the switch because I wanted to try how good is wrath generation in 1h.
I can't T3 now, I die too easily. Even some T2 packs I'm finding it hard. But I'm more than enough for T1, which is what I'm currently farming and I only play with the same groups of 4 every night.
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QUOTE(Son of Sparda @ Apr 1 2014, 11:09 AM)
here my crusader..but sadly mine lvl 42..huu..can anyone help me to make my hero stronger..some  advice for item or anything..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheDON-1718/hero/44567176
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Focus on leveling up, you won't wanna theorycraft without being lv70 anyway.
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QUOTE(Son of Sparda @ Apr 1 2014, 12:05 PM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thanks bro for the advice..i think i had to leveling my crusader..hmm
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Seeing as it's the highest level char of yours, you might wanna take things slower and also try to earn more money as priority. High level gems are pain in the ass.

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Apr 1 2014, 01:57 PM)
Fix'ed
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How much does that help? If it helps all that much, I might ask my friend to switch his area dmg to gold find. Because he's down to around 700k.
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Apr 1 2014, 05:36 PM)
my build can only work if you have Fell of the Fate....its the crazy heaven fury build....15m-30m damage per blast
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If that flail drops for me, gonna play this build and not looking back. Re-rolling all my CDR to Resource Reduction/+holy dmg, and win game.
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Apr 2 2014, 03:15 PM)
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Mine doesnt give chd though
Although it came up with +life per hit which was reroll'ed

Also anyone crafted this yet?
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksm...he-helm-of-rule
11% block chance helm with other random stats
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Just got the helm of rule plan and crafted it last night. Lost 6% cc, but going to reroll Vit to cc when I have FS. Sitting at 56% block now.

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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Apr 4 2014, 01:41 PM)
i think this ones fit in to your thorn build ? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/sanguinary-vambraces-1385JU
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- the bounty bracer with 1000% thorn chance dmg whenever enemies hit me

he IS talking about that.
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QUOTE(KruteX @ Apr 22 2014, 11:41 AM)
Sir, considering you have +50 fire elemental dmg, can u cnfirm either it will increase chain dmg or not
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It does not. Fire chain is weapon damage and it's considered range damage. Fire Element does not boost it.

Anyway, I see many of you are loving the Maximus, may I know how high torment are you guys playing at?

Fire chain is cool, I dealt like 8m per tick and it ticks around 4 ticks per second. I even had it on max roll, 1788 max fire dmg, 20% increase fire dmg, a socket and 1101 Str. I have a cindercoat and andy's at max as well, Reaper's wraps at 19% fire dmg, everything set for a fire crusader. Raping T2 like nothing.

Then comes T3. Elites are fine, but rift guardians can one shot my demon, and I'm left with only bowmen as single target. And I'm not the only one facing this issue. /r/diablo3crusaders even has a topic saying Fire crusader cannot go end game. So I'm curious how well you Maximus lovers are doing and in what difficulty, because I switched to lightning then now holy (both now 1Handed) and raping even harder in higher torments than what my decked out Maximus build can.

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Apr 23 2014, 12:34 PM)
I too felt that even lightning build will not be endgame. So far Holy build is only one I saw on twitch.tv that is end game viable.
If you want to see. You can search Mannercookie in twitch.tv/youtube.
This morning he was timing his 10 T6 run (Without Unity on follower). Try to goes as fast as he can and try to beat OP Witch Doctor that can clear in 8 mins or so. biggrin.gif . He cleared them Average around 10 to 13 mins per run.

He did try to swap some skills and gears to optimized the time. But his key pieces are BOP, 5 pcs Akkhan with Ring of royal granduer, 2 pcs born set. His CDR is around 45%
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Ahh mannercookie, while I like the burst he's giving, I don't like his survivability. But his build is legit and his gears are good and that's the only Crus build that can do T6 now, no captn murica nor thor builds can win that. Fire = 404 not found.

QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 23 2014, 12:50 PM)
The reason for me to go for Maximus fire build is because I only have Maximus..  doh.gif

Can play T1 no prob, T2 often got killed  rclxub.gif
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You'll get upgrades and reach T3 and you'll then have to ditch them and change element.
I too started with a Maximus, and still only have a good maximus. no gryf's, no BoP, no FotF. Looted a darklight, tried lightning, shit's good but not as good as jekang.
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Apr 23 2014, 03:12 PM)
Dont think I so lucky to get the Akkhan set. Been almost 1 week, dry as Selangor Dam.
Also, Mannercookie did test out Lightning build. Not viable.
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I'm on 4, got a double gloves. But rolls aren't too great. Will still try it out when I get the gears though, interesting set mechanics.

What lightning build he tested, can you generate and paste it here?

With upcoming changes in rune elements, I'm suspecting blizzard might make fire/lightning builds work better end game. But that's a bit far stretched, we all know blizz hate crusader.
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Apr 23 2014, 03:41 PM)
I think he tested Fissure, Falling Sword.
Try look at his twitch.tv video: http://www.twitch.tv/mannercookie/c/4112019 I think that the recording about lightning build what I saw 1 day ago.
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It's really hard to make falling sword fit into any build.

The time it takes to fall and the knockback it gives, not helping. Though I must say the AoE lightning is not bad at all. I see falling sword as the 7sided strike of crusader. Flashy and useless.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 23 2014, 07:44 PM)
theres a 2handed sword that can let you spam it a few times in a row.

couple that with some cooldown reductions, and akarat set, then maybe .....  hmm.gif
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Have it, useless because of the knock back. Even if I turn a blind eye to the casting animation, the knock back scatters mobs too far to make things efficient again. And because of the animation. You can only cast twice with that blade. Compared to BoP's condemn+unleashed rune, too inferior.

Still can't get my gryf's. Going by T4 with Skycutter.....

Blessed Shield Fire/Lightning? Shattering Throw with stacked Holy = rape.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 24 2014, 01:38 PM)
another guy was telling me condemn build is op.

he use with the sword for condemn effect, and also reduce cooldown gear. and akarat champion - rally  smile.gif and iron skin - flash
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It's not THAT OP. But going up to 100m damage one shot-ing elite packs is nothing surprising with that, which is why I said that falling sword can never win condemn. The only good rune it has is prolly the lightning one due to the AOE, but still.. knock back f* this skill too much to be good.

QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 24 2014, 02:26 PM)
may I ask, default BS is holy attack of physical?
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Holy. First rune lightning, Second rune fire, others all holy as well.

Holy can easily transition to end game. At least for the current meta.


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QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 25 2014, 10:10 AM)
Thanks for telling! That means the passive holy stack skill will help too woo!!!

But need to get Gyfalcon first...  sad.gif
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Towering shield helps boost damage as well.
Their tooltip is either wrong or this is a bug u can abuse right now.
They take into account TOTAL block chance where towering shield gives you 25% when capped and not blocking for 10 seconds. Since Murica builds you need to stand far so this is very viable. I did it yesterday and usually the first pack after I clean the last takes a lot more damage due to full block chance. This is also why people tend to ask shield builds to go Justice Lantern or Helm of Rule so that block chance is high. However I cannot for the love of Akarat give up a SoJ and a Andy's when playing element attack speed spender build.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 25 2014, 01:32 PM)
Just found a blade of prophecy. Can test it but i dont have much cool down reduction to maximize this build. Need 50% cdr i heard

Wep 10, paragon 10, crimson set 2 piece 10. Where to get remainder 20?

Glove, amy, ring ?
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Ammy 8, Shoulder 8, ring 7, Glove 8, Helm 12% (dont put 12.5 because it's bugged). Weapons can get 10, Born's 3 set 10.

Also, it's not additive, so it's not 10+10+10+20 = 50 lol.

Formula is 1-((1-10%)*(1-10%)) etc.

Multiplicative.

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