If you are still going to use BS, then shattering throw is still arguably the better rune.

Combust can only bounce 1 target and cannot bounce back, it only has a chance to cause more damage.

Let's say there is 4-5 mobs, combust clears is faster.

10+ mobs? Shattering throw still uncontested.

Full set akkhan's defeats the purpose of Gyrfalcon's as well. I tried a 0 builder BS build with Akkhan's and it's basically a 2handed Gyrfalcon's.

I'd stick to holy if I were you. No matter how viable Fire build is now, I still think holy wins hands down.

This post has been edited by HeartRoxas: May 14 2014, 11:42 AM

hm... issit because Akkhan set give no bonus/ help to BS build?

My cindercoat still there and still looking for a chest which can help my BS build

Hehe my initial damage to normal mob is 10m (crit) and bounce damage about 4m. To elite. The initial damage is 20m. Gg

u must have a much better weapon then? I wonder why the Falcon flail I got got very low weapon dmg. (19XX base dmg)

Is it necessary for weapons to have holy damage? Since the new passive "holy cause" now does not need the wep to be holy dmg to enjoy that 10% dmg buff... And I've done some searching that ... Whatever elemental dmg on your wep will be converted to the type of elemental your skill is... I hope I've made the right choice enchanting the Vit on my gyrfalcon to attack speed rather than arcane dmg to holy... It came with a natural socket...

Any ideas??

tot you re-rolled for the atkspd edi?

Anyway do not touch the base damage, if you reroll it to something else u'll see the base damage all gone.

Anyway nice falcon you had there, how I wish I can get a better one...

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No, I was saying, with full Akkhan's you don't even need Gyr's because your wrath regen faster than you spend as long as AC is active. And still benefit from passives like wrathful too.

Only thing gyr's still has is prolly ASPD and a bit more CD (with fervor). But with movement speed reduction reduced, and AC reworked (much better wrath regen), I cannot see 1hander contesting 2hander at all.

No worries. Holy cause buffs all dmg now. I rerolled my fotf to holy dmg but after patch last night the first thing I do is try to get higher dmg, disregarding what element I get.

haha ok, unfortunately, getting full set of akkhan is a big challenge...

Thanks bro... Yes... I rerolled the 700ish Vit to 7% attk speed... And just did summore research about elemental damage on weapons... It used to be important because alot of skills did not mention elemental type... So the skill will be purely based on the wep's elemental dmg... But now it's different... Anyways... Anyone may look into this thread for more info : http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12412661361

Posted not long ago...

Read the post you linked, so the damage is depends on your skill, no more weapon.

In this case I shall go bang my head against wall till dead. Reason:

I got another falcon not too long after the first one, 2.2k base damage but POISON type. I salvaged it because I though poison will not help and my +% holy dmg will not help.

*bang bang bang*

Thanks for confirming... Now I don't look like an idiot not enchant arcane dmg to holy dmg hahaha ...

Hmmm with all these new changes, I might consider going back to 2hd , like you've said, 1hd now cannot compete with 2hd.... Sigh... Just when I was about to enjoy spamming BShield...

Don't worry ! 2hd seems to be the direction now... I / we prolly have given up 100k-150k dps just to use 1hd flails... And since now heavenly strength does not reduce your MS by 15% and the nerf to blessed shield shattering throw.. It is worth to consider going back to 2hd.... Now all I need is a FateOfFell ! lol

back to square 1

This post has been edited by gh0sty: May 14 2014, 01:50 PM

really... but I still think the +15% increase speed is comparable... but since I got BOP, I might as well give it a try. (But I have only 1 piece of Akkhan set...)

Anyway I got Golden Flence yesterday... don't think I will use it.

My condemn crusader is dead.

Respeced it to shotgun crusader. Will be playing crus instead of WD for the new few days.
Imo, there's still value in Akkhan set, just need 4 pc bonus instead of 6.

Shotgun Crus

As predicted they have nerf the blessed shield,😅😨 well kinda.

I do not understand the nerf on BOP+Condemn skills before and fare the patch ? Can anyone kindly explain?

Shotgun is seems more viable now, but it work wonder if we got FotF.

Nerf in Judgement - Resolved does blew off those Crusader with CDR build (which I'm using it)

Not a bad nerfed as you hoping for, still very strong consider the buff on initial hit. I still crit 5-6 mil on first hit, 1+ mil on shattering dmg.

What blizzard do is buff up other skills so players has more choices to go.

They did not nerf blessed shield... They were merely correcting the messed up tool tip ... In Actual fact , it was doing 333% and not 50%... And with the major buff to passives, it will more or less be the same... Only affected build is CDR crus as from what I've read so far...

So.. Your stand on crus should not be playing range is still invalid based on the changes Blizz have made ...

Guess you didn't predict the nerf on CDR crusader , did you?

Since the Crusader is more tend to get drops with CDR status did not see it coming to nerf the Judgement. But it still manageable as I have base critical chance at 21% and cdr at 58% (including paragon)

I did try the blessed shield the shattered dmg does deal less dmg than before. But it still viable though.

Any details info regarding the BOP + Condemn? I do not understand what affected it before and after the patch.

Actually Blessed Sheild didnt really badly, when i tested on ghom, i feel my dmg actually increase due to the passive restructure, 15% more attack speed w/ 15% cdr , and 20% extra dmg boost too, on normal mobs i use to see around 5~7m dmg .. now i manage to see up to 9m dmg also

ppl can salvage BoP now. completely utterly useless now without rally.