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 PROTON EXORA BOLD OWNERS THREAD! V3, Unleash the turbo power!

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alexei
post Apr 17 2014, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Apr 17 2014, 05:44 PM)
I'm very interested to know more about the racechips and how it affects performance and fuel consumption. Do share with us your findings and experience smile.gif
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To my humble knowledge, an engine must be tuned to have the right AFR at all rev range, suitably for its application.
By doing fuel remap, and smoothing the torque curve, I should be able to produce an engine suitable to my driving style.
In the end achieving better efficiency, thus saving fuel.

If I'm right and fuel consumption does improve, I could earn back the investment within a few years, or faster if petrol price increase. That and a better driving experience, priceless.
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post Apr 17 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 17 2014, 07:27 PM)

The other 3 IMO, would need a tuning platform to deliver results, which EA does not have. Perhaps using a wideband o2 sensor is enough, I don't know. Mainly, I just don't have the energy to visit him that many times.
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You are right, in fact I have installed those mods without visiting EA.

However, Drex as I personally knew him. Seems to able to get it right.. Yep I didn't buy or install my FPR cap ayam in EA or My Adjustable Cam Pulley. But he managed to tune it based on his experience and without the o2 wideband reader, he managed to get almost perfect A/F ratio.

1. Installed FPR cap ayam in RS Dynotune by Robin, 1st year of ownership. Slight power but petrol hungry (5Bar), Retune in EA lowered to 4 bar. same pickup but less fuel consumption.
2. Installed Adjustable cam Pulley in Dori-Dori by en. Shaiful, Retuned in EA by change the timing advance of intake and exhaust cam, my CPS N/A Auto some more can spin my front tyre when tekan after stationary.

EA might be the most expensive garage I ever been in Klang Valley, (don't hope discount from them) but the installation job is top notch, they really have passion on what they doing.

And to clear the doubt, I didn't tune my Haltech in EA.. GT Auto did..
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post Apr 17 2014, 10:21 PM

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Agreed, EA is the most expensive workshop here

but their workmanship quality is good and they truly know what they are selling
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post Apr 18 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Apr 17 2014, 09:19 PM)
You are right, in fact I have installed those mods without visiting EA.

However, Drex as I personally knew him. Seems to able to get it right.. Yep I didn't buy or install my FPR cap ayam in EA or My Adjustable Cam Pulley. But he managed to tune it based on his experience and without the o2 wideband reader, he managed to get almost perfect A/F ratio.

1. Installed FPR cap ayam in RS Dynotune by Robin, 1st year of ownership. Slight power but petrol hungry (5Bar), Retune in EA lowered to 4 bar. same pickup but less fuel consumption.
2. Installed Adjustable cam Pulley in Dori-Dori by en. Shaiful, Retuned in EA  by change the timing advance of intake and exhaust cam, my CPS N/A Auto some more can spin my front tyre when tekan after stationary.

EA might be the most expensive garage I ever been in Klang Valley, (don't hope discount from them) but the installation job is top notch, they really have passion on what they doing.

And to clear the doubt, I didn't tune my Haltech in EA..  GT Auto did..
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Really appreciate you sharing the experience. How much the average fuel consumption of your CPS now?
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post Apr 18 2014, 08:20 AM

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Anything wrong withRS work? Or just under par compared to EA?
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:04 AM

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Really cannot believe you guys do not have problems with the brake squealls and belt squeakings when air cond turn on....My Exora CFE is stock.... #frustrating#irritated... Worst part is I have to plan my time to go and leave the car at SC....
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:17 AM

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Hmm. I'm more annoyed by the cvt grow.

This post has been edited by alexei: Apr 18 2014, 12:03 PM
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post Apr 18 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(andrew_tba @ Apr 18 2014, 11:04 AM)
Really cannot believe you guys do not have problems with the brake squealls and belt squeakings when air cond turn on....My Exora CFE is stock.... #frustrating#irritated... Worst part is I have to plan my time to go and leave the car at SC....
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Whats your mileage? Have changed the brake pad?

The belt squeaking maybe auto tensioner problem, go sc
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post Apr 18 2014, 05:23 PM

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Just collected EB after 1st service at Apple Auto Seri Kembangan. Use Petronas 5W30 semi oil. Total around RM130.
Car feel light already but still monitoring on the fuel consumption.
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post Apr 18 2014, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(andrew_tba @ Apr 18 2014, 11:04 AM)
Really cannot believe you guys do not have problems with the brake squealls and belt squeakings when air cond turn on....My Exora CFE is stock.... #frustrating#irritated... Worst part is I have to plan my time to go and leave the car at SC....
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Brake squealls? I thought only affect us the CPS owner with the stupid rear drum brake

Belt squeaking its the auto tensioner issue, try to claim warranty but dont expect much as I have change it with the cfe version but still squeaking especially when reversing and full load of lamps + aircond.

It is the design flaw of Proton. However its perfectly normal. The belt not loosen still tense. Should hear the sound of my belt, its loud until ppl noticed.
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post Apr 18 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(andrew_tba @ Apr 18 2014, 11:04 AM)
Really cannot believe you guys do not have problems with the brake squealls and belt squeakings when air cond turn on....My Exora CFE is stock.... #frustrating#irritated... Worst part is I have to plan my time to go and leave the car at SC....
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Mine's still 4000km+ now. So far still perfectly fine. My unit still very young. Will definitely post if there is any problems though (hopefully not) smile.gif
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QUOTE(andrew_tba @ Apr 18 2014, 11:04 AM)
Really cannot believe you guys do not have problems with the brake squealls and belt squeakings when air cond turn on....My Exora CFE is stock.... #frustrating#irritated... Worst part is I have to plan my time to go and leave the car at SC....
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pity you. mine's, the very 1st batch, still works very very good indeed. nod.gif
just one thing i cannot tahan, when going for ronde-ronde on weekend, the road seems like too short. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tehsarbat @ Apr 18 2014, 10:29 PM)
pity you. mine's, the very 1st batch, still works very very good indeed. nod.gif
just one thing i cannot tahan, when going for ronde-ronde on weekend, the road seems like too short. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:05 PM

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Soon i'll be joinin u guys.very soon..
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post Apr 18 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Apr 18 2014, 11:05 PM)
Soon i'll be joinin u guys.very soon..
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Brand new EB? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 19 2014, 12:19 AM

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[quote=YouDontKnowMyName,Apr 18 2014, 11:53 PM]
Brand new EB? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 19 2014, 02:52 AM

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yeap, loan just approved for 2.78%
Going for plum red full spec.
Hope everything will be good..
..or Im gonna cry cry.gif

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post Apr 19 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 17 2014, 09:38 AM)
After survey Racechip, it's RM1699 including installation. Dyno not included, plug and play only. Tuning done by EA Auto. Including other aftermarket poison, it's about RM3k - RaceChip, boost spring, Works cam gear, Mythelogy pulley. 2~3 hours needed.

Pricewise compared to EU mother site, it is not expensive, according to RaceChip:
Then I asked a mechanic, he asked me why not Unichip.
I looked that up, and it seems to be highly customizable where it can learn and use can reprogram up to 5 fuel maps. Also quite expensive, including the turbo module.

That's when I found RS Tune. They recommend me EFR2T, priced at RM950 including installation and dyno tune to remap fuel+turbo.

Will update more.
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will this violate warranty?

btw, i am not expert in car but this mod will help improve FC?
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post Apr 19 2014, 02:40 PM

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post Apr 19 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 19 2014, 02:40 PM)
I think it will invite questions, if the car is sent for service with the Racechip or Unichip attached.

Racechip recommends removing it when sending for service or asking for warranty.
There are people with bad experiences using Racechip, so be warned. Main symptom is turbo fail early. Hence, if were to ask me, drive your new car for at least 10k before doing such a thing.

If the car is tuned to drive at a better AFR, it will definitely give more power and saves more fuel. So, yes, it should save more fuel.
The thing about engine tuning is, too rich, or too lean the AFR, the engine is not efficient.
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Actually I want o comment on the Racechip but sadly I do not have the experience 1st hand on Race chip for petrol turbo car, however I do can comment on my other car a Diesel VGT. It is well known by the diesel community the Racechip known causes meltdown of the piston due to the too much diesel being poured into the combustion compression chamber since the ECU think more air supplied and start to increase more diesel and boost level. However a remap ECU or Piggyback can do a better job instead put a plug n play MAF sensor hack chip. (At least in Diesel Turbo type of engine)

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