doesnt mean to get off-topic, im sorry.

lets continue.

If asking about what will GST do to PC hardware price is fine here.. Other than PC Hardware then offtopic..

sinbei, you are right ... there is no G3220 ... here is a direct review of the G3220 CPU, looks like it is not too bad:
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-pentium-...eview_137016/13

hmm this thread still havent been pinned yet?

goldfries please pin this thread

thanks alot Minecrafter

may i know y u choose intel Xeon what's the advantage over i5 chipset??
btw is it worth if i pay a little bit more for items below:

a) Seasonic S`1G-750 80+Gols
b) Gainward GTX760 phantom 2048mb GD5

thanks for the great help

The xeon has multithreading which will help with your 3D/video editing works (this programs are cpu intensive) , best result would be getting the Sandy bridge-e/ivy bridge-e processor as they have 6 cores/12 threads , but it's far more expensive as the cpu/mobo and of course the cooling solution would add more to your budget. But the xeon would work fine too.

a) Yes Seasonic psu is the best right now, but that would cost more so better just get the S12 620w or the M12 620w as both still do the job and cost slighly cheaper plus you will still have that Seasonic brand.

b) If you can expand your budget then why not

Intel Xeon has 4C/8T,the i5 has 4C/4T.Since you're doing AutoCAD works,an i7 and Intel Xeon helps because of the extra 4 Threads.

A)Overkill..if you want Seasonic S12G,then get Seasonic S12G 80+ Gold 650W RM409.But the PSU i suggested is already enough..

B)Get that GPU instead.. The GPU i recommended is OOS atm.Not sure if there's a shop selling it or not atm.
Get it from Lingloong,he sells it at RM845...

I have found that SSDs improve the PC experience by quite a lot, as the HDD is often the bottleneck of the overall PC, especially when you are working with large files, or when you are turning on and turning off the PC. Even if you are gaming, level load times will reduce significantly.

The other key area to invest your ringgit is in the GPU, if you have extra budget, and you use the PC for gaming, then putting those ringgits in your GPU will also bring a significant difference to your PC experience.

Even though it might be a small increment but if you factor the increment to full PC builds then the increment can be very substantial...

Hopefully the increase may not be that big.. If GST got implemented(Is that how u say it? ) like last year,i don't even know whether i'd get a Computer..

How about 2011 socket 8-core and 12-core Xeon processors?

This post has been edited by PfftClock: Mar 18 2014, 10:39 PM

workstation CPUs very expensive, not worth it man

Dual xeon E5 with 12 cores each

Did somebody say dual Xeons?

Summoning Lucassss..

Also please explain why you use dual xeons to only play Dota.

Video above is 24C/48T. I only have 16C/32T, I don't belong here.
Don't la go tell everyone what I use my Xeons for.

Still faster than most here on LYN Hahahaha.

Please help recommend build :-

Budget: 2-3K

Purpose: Gaming

Hardwares that will be re-use: Keyboard/Mouse/Speaker/Modem

Monitor resolution: LED 22inch min brand Samsung/Philips/LG

Games & softwares that use frequently: Company Heroes/Up coming Titanfall/Crisis 3

Personal preferences:

GPU : Readon or Nvidia? If Nvidia 760 or 750?Which one better then Gigabtye / MSI / Asus / Leadtek ? Why most people I see dont recommend asus or gigabyte ? Mostly other I seldom heard brand ?

Processor: Intel or AMD ? Not familiar with AMD if intel i5 or i7? Gigabtye/ Asus/ Asrock

Power supply: Coolmaster / Cosair / Antec / Seasonic ? Power 650w or higher ?

RAM : Hyper x ? 2x 8GB or 2x 4GB (extra ram any improvement?)

Hardisk : Seagate / Western D ?

[Location] JB

Sorry for the late reply.
Thanks to @alfiejr for the recommendation!

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

The green one are the parts that I've confirm to use. For the others, I'm still considering.

BTW, alfiejr and other sifus, it will be great if you able to justify why you recommend the parts.

As for the CPU, I would like to compare the XEON E3 1230 with OC i5 4670K.

From my readings, Xeon chipsets are more suitable for server because of hyper-threading and more L3 cache.
But what does exactly hyperthreading & L3 cache do for server?

While some people claims OC i5 will outperform Xeon.
But how?

Other things to consider: Price for mobo, future proof, resale value?
And are the price difference (i5 cheaper ~RM30) is worth for 4 cores over the on-board GPU (and 0.1 clocked lower)? Why?

As for the Mobo, why Asrock and why opt for Pro 4 instead of Performance/H87M?

Sorry for too many questions. But I hope we can have informative and educational discussion here.
Thanks in advance.

P/S: Where can I get the parts with the price you stated?
Can recommend me which brand of monitor (for movie-watching), wireless adaptor, value kb+mouse(wired).

You may refer to my quote to you in the previous thread.

Xeon CPUs (they are not chipsets as what you mention above) are designed for servers, so they do not have a GPU, and have hyperthreading to run more parallel jobs, and more L3 cache to support those additional processes. Servers normally handle a lot of "processing jobs" in parallel, with multiple different clients requesting from the CPU at the same time, so the higher capability to support each job request along with the memory will make the Xeon CPU perform better in those environments.

If there are only a few threads running at the same time, like for example in computer games of today, then a faster clocked processor will finish that same job faster.

So in short, whether a Xeon or a OC i5 is faster depends on the software or program that you are using. Generally, for workstation type software (image editing, video editing, etc) that can run many jobs in parallel, or if you are running multiple programs at the same time, then Xeon will be better. If you are playing a FPS game, then an OC i5-4670K would be better.

However, for gaming, normally the bottleneck is the GPU, so in your specific example above, the GPU will most likely be the bottleneck at 1920x1080 high quality resolutions before the CPU is the bottleneck, so it is possible there will not be much of a difference when gaming between the two CPUs.

I am not familiar with Asrock motherboards, I am most familiar with Asus, and next I use Gigabyte, so I cannot really provide an opinion to you on that one.

You can buy the parts in Low Yat Plaza ... one of the best places to get computer hardware. I buy from one shop in Low Yat because I have been buying there since Low Yat Plaza started about 15 years ago, and I get very good service from the owner, and he is like a friend to me now. Any of the main shops are OK, I think.

For movie-watching, look for brands that use IPS screens, like LG, and Dell. IPS screens give good color reproduction, and although contrast is not that good, monitors from Dell give good contrast from IPS screens. I am using Dell monitors now, after going through a few brands.

Wireless adaptor is pretty standard, I normally use TP-Link for their good replacement policy, and never had an issue.

KB+Mouse I use Logitech, but I also think these are pretty standard, and any brand will do ... the more important is whether you feel comfortable with the KB/mouse or not.