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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V5!

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rav3n82
post Mar 19 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 12:35 PM)
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You may refer to my quote to you in the previous thread. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 19 2014, 02:09 PM)
Please help me see is these rig spec is ok ?

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1230V3
MOBO: Asus B85M-G
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 8GB DDR3 160pMhz
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
HHD: WD 1TB Cavier Blue
GPU: Gainward GTX760 2GB DDR5
PSU: FSP Raider 650W PSU
ODD: Liteon 24x sata DVDRW
Chasis: Xigmatek Asgard 382 Casing
Cooler: Artic cooling A13 cooler

Total: Rm3170

P.s  what is the difference btw GTX 760 n OC version

Thank for help in advance
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Your build above has Idealtech's signature all over it. laugh.gif

Very solid indeed, but what happened to your monitor? hmm.gif You require one right?
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post Mar 24 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 10:57 AM)
hi guys, need opinion from expert out there..want to do a custom pc..mostly gaming,downloading watching movies only. Games normally DOta2,COD,MOH,Batman and all the FPS shooting game..so i wanted good graphic. Does this spec good or can be minimised?

Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - ASUS Z87-PRO  RM749
GPU - ASUS GTX750 TI oc RM 645
PSU - CORSAIR VS SERIES 650W RM 229
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - THERMALTAKE MS - I RM 199
Monitor - Dell 23EA53V led ips RM519
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Graphic card is sadly, overpriced. Also, overpriced motherboard as well. What is your max budget? smile.gif
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(rusty27 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:00 AM)
alamak overpriced ka? my budget is rm3k..can suggest better one? Thanks in advance
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Here you go. wink.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 - RM579
Asrock B85M Pro4 – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
Zotac GTX 760 2GB – RM799 (Cycom)
FSP Hexa 500W PSU - RM149
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM189
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
Viewsonic VX2370S 23" IPS LED - RM499
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM2941 (prices are from Viewnet)

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post Mar 24 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:12 AM)
Asus Mobo and gpu are overpriced. But they do have a sexy smexy killer red looking fan for their gpu drool.gif
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Actually, Asus GPUs tend to be more expensive, but it is often for a good reason. They are usually very solid, have superb cooling solution and an extra year of warranty from what we usually recommend here. smile.gif

It's sad that our local pricing for Asus is on the high side here, hence most of the time we need to stick to recommending those more affordable brands like Sapphire, Leadtek or Gainward. But if there is very marginal difference in pricing compared to Asus, then the choice is really clear.
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 11:22 AM)
Yea I heard that Asus cooling is one of the best other than EVGA. They also have superb oc'ing capabilities right?
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Actually MSI's TwinFrozr IV is also another excellent cooler, along with Windforce 3X and Sapphire Tri-X. Some of the better ones I can recall at the moment. tongue.gif

OC'ing abilities is really sometimes like a silicone lottery. Sometimes the chip just wouldn't go any higher. sweat.gif And also may be due to Nvidia's restrictions on pumping in more voltage. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:28 AM)
The 290X Matrix have GTX780Ti Matrix cooler/heatpipes.. tongue.gif
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Source: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_dis...atinum_review/1

ZgamesThey better not be lazy next time..
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I think that is probably a design limitation on their part. Noticed that the clock speed isn't any faster than the regular DCUII 290X, but how come temperature increased by so much? Really mind boggling.

Overall, DCUII are among the better ones out there and I stand by this point, having run so many cards before, I really find them to be significantly superior when you compare them with those more economical solutions that I mentioned earlier. You try comparing DCUII with Dual-X and you will understand what I mean.

Edit: Just recalled something on top of my head. Problem with the latest gen DCUII cooler used on Hawaii cards is that it is actually a respin from existing DCUII used on bigger Kepler GK110 chips (e.g GTX 780 / Ti). So you will see that 2 of its 5 heatpipes doesn't contact fully with the slightly smaller die size of the Hawaii chip, so that is waste, really. But fully understandable on Asus' part, creating a new cooler purely just for Hawaii may create unnecessary excess inventory. That's why you see them do what they do.

This post has been edited by rav3n82: Mar 24 2014, 11:36 AM
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post Mar 24 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 24 2014, 11:40 AM)
I noticed that,it kinda makes me think Asus favours NVidia more than AMD.. biggrin.gif

Yup,DCUII are also fine. nod.gif

Latest collection,Zotac GTX780 AMP! ?Saw that on your siggy.. tongue.gif

EDIT reply:If Asus makes new DCUII cooler for Hawaii GPUs,then it will cost some money. hmm.gif If the Hawaii is the same size as GK110,then i think it could be..fine. hmm.gif
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Nah, all that matters to them is dollars and cents, and unlike any of us, they don't favour anyone.

Nvidia came out first with the GPU upon which the latest gen DCUII was based upon, so I do not think they will purposely create another design just for Hawaii. They just adapt the cooler so that it can be used for Hawaii as well. They would indefinitely do so even if it's the other way around.
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 25 2014, 10:33 AM)
Hey guys, been stalking the threads and I must say you guys are doing an impressive job. Back to the issue at hand, I have been using my laptop for the past 3 years to play my games and I have been noticing the games now require more hardware specs so I think I will save up for a gaming rig soon so...here goes.

[Budget] - 3k

[Purpose] Gaming. Hardcore gaming.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None.

[Monitor resolution] the biggest there is?

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ummm....directx11? I dont know this question? Crysis? AC4?

[Personal preferences] I dont mind splurging to 4k if it looks good

[Location] Only problem is that I am in kuching so maybe I am thinking I go over to KL for a day or two, pay for the rig in advance then carry the PC only to kuching in my arms. The monitor would have to be bought in kuching. suggestions on this problem?
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Alright, here is what I can optimize for you. Basically, close to a RM3.8k budget will get you a nice GTX 770 paired with a superb 23" IPS monitor. Best of all, it even includes a 128GB SSD. Well, speed is a luxury they say, so if you are tight on your budget, you can just omit the SSD for some precious bucks. biggrin.gif

Intel Core i5 4440 - RM579
Asrock B85M Pro4 – RM279
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
Gainward GTX 770 Phantom 2GB – RM1199 (lingloong / IdealTech)
Seasonic S12 II 620W PSU - RM299
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM189
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD - RM289
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
LG 23EA53V 23" IPS LED - RM519
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59

Total - RM3800 (prices are from Viewnet)
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 10:40 AM)
Over the week of checking and asking around, these will be my final build. To all Stfu any commend  brows.gif  ?

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440 RM589
Mobo: ASUS H87 PLUS RM375 Asrock H87 Performance RM399
RAM: GSkill AEGIS 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM139x2units Corsair Vengance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R DDR3 1600MHz 4GB x2unit RM339
GPU: Gainward GTX 760 2GB DDR5 Phantom RM880
PSU: FSP Raider 550W PSU RM239
SSD: Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM289
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM195
Chasis: NZXT H440 Black Red RM399
ODD: Lite-On 24x DVDRW RM60 (don't need these item as my case don't hv optical bay)
Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight RM129 Thermaltake NiC C5 Untouchable RM219

Between idealtech say it did not recommend me to take Asrock H87 Performance but instead prefer to take ASUS H87 Plus. Both I see from specs are similar. I take Asrock H87 Performance because the mother board Red colour scheme match with my NZXT H440 black/red theme.
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From what I see, those Vengeance RAMs are purely optional since they will not affect you much, in terms of gaming performance per se. But if you're looking to match to a certain theme in your rig build, then no harm going for them. They are a tad pricy, just for you to know. tongue.gif

The Thermaltake cooler looks awesome, so it's entirely up to you. For the record, you don't really need a 3rd party cooler considering that your CPU is locked and has little to no overclocking capabilities. If you would want it just for the sake of quietness and lower temps, then going for cheaper solutions e.g Hyper 212X or Dark Knight would probably make more sense. But all in all, it's all really up to you. wink.gif
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post Mar 25 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 25 2014, 11:20 AM)
I think Ill just have to hand carry it. yes I checked through the so called mini "lowyat" in kuching. Everything has a 10-20% increase in price. Sakit hati I moved back to my home town.
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Actually, you could have the rig built here in West Malaysia and then have it shipped back to you, with some charges of course. Companies like Ideal Tech (zhen^wei) do shipments to whole of Malaysia, you can check them out in Garage Sales. Or they may have already caught you on their radar and will approach you shortly. brows.gif
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post Mar 25 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 25 2014, 12:15 PM)
Looks easy to install but my clumsy hand will destroyed it soon enough  cry.gif ....Haiz try to pursuit idealtech help me install CPU cooler I buy and courier to them with the rest I purchase from them together.

if everything fails need to seek local expert to help sad.gif ..(never installed before scare fail then damage the Processor or Mobo)
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I believe they would only install for you if you buy everything from them. tongue.gif Either way, hate to break your bubble, but mounting a CPU cooler is not.....easy, at least for the first time. tongue.gif Read the manual properly and try it slowly. It shouldn't be that difficult after a try or two.

The video posted above is on a CM Hyper 212 Evo, if not mistaken. And I personally find this cooler to be one of the easier ones to install. I would suggest that you actually first mount the heatsink to your processor first (outside the chassis), then screw the entire motherboard to your chassis. Only after that, you can fix in the fan mountings.
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post Mar 27 2014, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(dannrawr @ Mar 27 2014, 12:57 PM)
thanks bro, i dont even know what ssd do  rclxub.gif
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Think of it as a HDD on steroids. Though they come in smaller capacity (120GB should be fine), the speed gain is pretty worth IMHO. OS boots up faster, accessing files is faster, games load faster too. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 27 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(dannrawr @ Mar 27 2014, 01:28 PM)
alright bro thumbup.gif not sure i need it or not.
can suggest other option to psu and  Viewsonic VX2370S Monitor RM519 ?
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PSU can go with above suggestion. Monitor also can consider LG 23EA53V, RM519.
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post Mar 30 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 30 2014, 04:40 PM)
Hey guys, just finalizing my com parts

I've decided on the Gainward GTX760 Phantom 2GB (rm849) for my graphics card. Any recommendations for other better graphics card besides the gainward gtx760 / I should be looking at which fits my budget about rm800-rm1000 (could go up a bit depending) ?
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A GTX 760 is pretty much the best card that can fit into your budget. Above that level would be either R9 280X or GTX 770, and this typically costs around RM1.2k above.

There are a few other GTX 760s that you can also consider, Zotac GTX 760 AMP! Edition, Leadtek GTX 760 OC or Palit GTX 760 Jetstream. smile.gif
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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 30 2014, 05:20 PM)
Ah allright, will have to look up on the other graphics card mentioned

correct me if im wrong, but based from what ive been reading, the only difference between the gtx760 phantom and the normal gtx760 is that the former is an overclocked version yeah? Ive no experience with overclocking products before and if i actually need it in the first place, theres only a rm50-ish price difference between the 2, so Im guessing I'll just go with the overclocked version

as always, appreciate the help guys
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You're right, the Phantom is an overclocked version of the GTX 760. The performance difference shouldn't be that much. But what you're getting is a slightly better cooling solution compared to the reference solution. wink.gif
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post Mar 30 2014, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Mar 30 2014, 05:23 PM)
ddr3 ram price is increase compare to last time???
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Yes, they have increased quite significantly over the past 1 year.
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post Mar 31 2014, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 31 2014, 12:48 PM)
thanks ! Ill go for the LG one instead  smile.gif
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You can also consider Lite-On. smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2014, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(faridz7 @ Mar 31 2014, 12:55 PM)
oh ok..more reliable than the LG one?
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I personally think they are all solid. I have 1 LG nearly 9 years and still kicking. And I have two Lite-On under 4 years and still kicking. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(paulyew3099 @ Apr 9 2014, 09:29 AM)
Hi all, need some advice. Sorry if its not related to this thread. Im thinking to buy this second cpu.

Intel Pentium Dual Core G645
Saphire 7770 Vapor-X
Gigabyte B75M-D3V
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333mhz
Xigmatec Casing
AOC 23inch monitor

Question is how good is the system? if i would like to upgrade it with a cost of 1k, how would u suggest? Thanks icon_question.gif
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You could try the below upgrades. However, do you know what PSU is bundled together with the rig?

Intel Pentium Dual Core G645 Intel Core i3 3220 - RM349
Saphire 7770 Vapor-X Sapphire R9 265 - RM599
Gigabyte B75M-D3V
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333mhz
Xigmatec Casing
AOC 23inch monitor

Total - RM948 (prices are from Viewnet)


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