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capitalFlynn
post Mar 18 2014, 07:46 AM

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Grats for V5 rclxms.gif

Still learning in this fields, thanks in advance for your help nod.gif

[Budget] 3k-3.5k

[Purpose]
- Dual booting (Win & Linux Server),
- Web Development
- Network Forensic/Hacking
- Program/App Development (Coding/Programming)
- Multitasking
- Other typical purpose: Downloading, Light-Gaming, Light Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Start from scratch.

[Monitor resolution] Suitable for dual-screen

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Packet Tracer, Eclipse, Google Chrome(w/ a lot of tab), uTorrent, DOTA2

[Personal preferences] Whichever value for money. 2nd hand part can be consider.

[Location] Doesn't matter. Can travel.

P/S: Let me know if my budget is too tight

This post has been edited by capitalFlynn: Mar 18 2014, 07:49 AM
capitalFlynn
post Mar 19 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Mar 18 2014, 08:42 AM)
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M-Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

total-RM3450
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Sorry for the late reply.
Thanks to @alfiejr for the recommendation! rclxm9.gif

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

The green one are the parts that I've confirm to use. For the others, I'm still considering.

BTW, alfiejr and other sifus, it will be great if you able to justify why you recommend the parts.

As for the CPU, I would like to compare the XEON E3 1230 with OC i5 4670K.

From my readings, Xeon chipsets are more suitable for server because of hyper-threading and more L3 cache.
But what does exactly hyperthreading & L3 cache do for server?

While some people claims OC i5 will outperform Xeon.
But how?

Other things to consider: Price for mobo, future proof, resale value?
And are the price difference (i5 cheaper ~RM30) is worth for 4 cores over the on-board GPU (and 0.1 clocked lower)? Why?

As for the Mobo, why Asrock and why opt for Pro 4 instead of Performance/H87M?

Sorry for too many questions. But I hope we can have informative and educational discussion here. nod.gif
Thanks in advance.

P/S: Where can I get the parts with the price you stated?
Can recommend me which brand of monitor (for movie-watching), wireless adaptor, value kb+mouse(wired).
capitalFlynn
post Mar 19 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 19 2014, 01:17 PM)
Xeon CPUs (they are not chipsets as what you mention above) are designed for servers, so they do not have a GPU, and have hyperthreading to run more parallel jobs, and more L3 cache to support those additional processes.  Servers normally handle a lot of "processing jobs" in parallel, with multiple different clients requesting from the CPU at the same time, so the higher capability to support each job request along with the memory will make the Xeon CPU perform better in those environments.

If there are only a few threads running at the same time, like for example in computer games of today, then a faster clocked processor will finish that same job faster.

So in short, whether a Xeon or a OC i5 is faster depends on the software or program that you are using.  Generally, for workstation type software (image editing, video editing, etc) that can run many jobs in parallel, or if you are running multiple programs at the same time, then Xeon will be better. If you are playing a FPS game, then an OC i5-4670K would be better.

However, for gaming, normally the bottleneck is the GPU, so in your specific example above, the GPU will most likely be the bottleneck at 1920x1080 high quality resolutions before the CPU is the bottleneck, so it is possible there will not be much of a difference when gaming between the two CPUs.

I am not familiar with Asrock motherboards, I am most familiar with Asus, and next I use Gigabyte, so I cannot really provide an opinion to you on that one.

You can buy the parts in Low Yat Plaza ... one of the best places to get computer hardware.  I buy from one shop in Low Yat because I have been buying there since Low Yat Plaza started about 15 years ago, and I get very good service from the owner, and he is like a friend to me now.  Any of the main shops are OK, I think.

For movie-watching, look for brands that use IPS screens, like LG, and Dell.  IPS screens give good color reproduction, and although contrast is not that good, monitors from Dell give good contrast from IPS screens.  I am using Dell monitors now, after going through a few brands.

Wireless adaptor is pretty standard, I normally use TP-Link for their good replacement policy, and never had an issue.

KB+Mouse I use Logitech, but I also think these are pretty standard, and any brand will do ... the more important is whether you feel comfortable with the KB/mouse or not.
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Thanks for taking your time. notworthy.gif

So basically I guess I will go for the Xeon CPU for the reasons.

What is the shop in LYP? The price alfiejr quote is the generally lowest among others but he doesn't mention the place.

Yeah I guess will go with Dell U series too.

Thanks again. nod.gif

Drafted specs:
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo-Asrock H87M Pro-4-RM319
Memory-Gskill Value ram 2x8GB-RM478
GPU-Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB-RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVo 250GB-RM569 or you can use two 128GB SSD's for raid
HDD-Seagate Barracuda 3TB-RM379
PSU-FSP Hexa 500w-RM149
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Case-CM N300-RM149

Is there any reason why consider the Seagate brand for HDD?
capitalFlynn
post Mar 19 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 19 2014, 03:58 PM)
You can take Asrock H87 Pro4..since it only costs 40 ringgit more than Asus B85M-G and Asrock B85M-Pro4 biggrin.gif
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Why conisder Asrock H87 Pro4 over that two? Mind sharing?

Basically can you share what is the important factor in choosing a mobo?

Thanks Minecrafter. nod.gif

This post has been edited by capitalFlynn: Mar 19 2014, 04:29 PM
capitalFlynn
post Mar 19 2014, 07:36 PM

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Reading about PSU and stumble upon this. This might be helpful.

http://support.asus.com/powersupply.aspx

Sharing is caring. icon_rolleyes.gif
capitalFlynn
post Mar 20 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(cysam90 @ Mar 20 2014, 12:11 AM)
Hi guys, need some advice here. I'm doing surfing & watching 1080p movies  brows.gif  & some light gaming occasionally (dota 2)

This is the rig i have in mind:

FM2+ A10-7850K
Gigabyte G1.SNIPER A88X
1TB WD Black
DDR3 1600Mhz 8GB RAM
475W psu
Cooler master casing

Some questions regarding this setup, cos i chose A10 APU & A88X mobo only:
1. I heard AMD notorious for heating issue? Should i get better cooling system instead of using stock fan?
2. shud i wait for ssd price to drop or upgrade now?
3. Can I dual screen output with current setup for gaming? 1 DVI 1 HDMI?
4. should i crossfire a R7 250 gpu or get better gpus?
5. Is 475W psu enough?
6. Did i miss anything?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Mind sharing what monitor you are using? icon_rolleyes.gif
capitalFlynn
post Mar 21 2014, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(capitalFlynn @ Mar 18 2014, 07:46 AM)
Grats for V5  rclxms.gif

Still learning in this fields, thanks in advance for your help  nod.gif

[Budget] 3k-3.5k

[Purpose]
- Dual booting (Win & Linux Server),
- Web Development
- Network Forensic/Hacking
- Program/App Development (Coding/Programming)
- Multitasking
- Other typical purpose: Downloading, Light-Gaming, Light Photoshop

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Start from scratch.

[Monitor resolution] Suitable for dual-screen

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Packet Tracer, Eclipse, Google Chrome(w/ a lot of tab), uTorrent, DOTA2

[Personal preferences] Whichever value for money. 2nd hand part can be consider.

[Location] Doesn't matter. Can travel.

P/S: Let me know if my budget is too tight
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Original recommendation by alfiejr

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After some changes,

CPU- Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3
Mobo- ASrock B85M Pro4
GPU- Leadtek GTX 750 ti 2GB
SSD- Samsung 840 EVo 250GB
PSU- FSP Raider 650W
HDD- Seagate 1TB Baracuda
WiFi- TP-LINK TL-WDN4800
ODD- Lite-On 24x DVD/RW
Case- CM N200
RAM- GSkill Aegis 2x8GB DDR3 1600mhz

Is this okay?
P/S: Need to cut down a lot as much as posibble cus I needed a monitor too. No dual monitor too. cry.gif
capitalFlynn
post Mar 22 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 01:07 PM)
biggrin.gif There's the Corsair Carbide 200r RM229.. tongue.gif
But i still think that CM K380 is the best budget computer case,as most Sifus in this thread (Including me tongue.gif ) always recommend that casing,unless the build have a 3 slot GPU,u may need a casing with longer GPU's length support.. tongue.gif
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How bout CM N200 against K380?

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