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 EASA part 66 License, let talk and discuss question here!!!!

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TSmr_ashraf
post Jul 26 2006, 12:47 AM

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what i understand about flat rated engine is engine which are derated at specific power bcoz of the condition of airplane that can handle limit force only. it relay on condition of the aircraft....

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post Jul 27 2006, 09:35 PM

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Unfortunately, this is NOT the right answer. If you're going for your engine exams, you should start to worry....

QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Jul 26 2006, 12:47 AM)
what i understand about flat rated engine is engine which are derated at specific power bcoz of the condition of airplane that can handle limit force only. it relay on condition of the aircraft....
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post Jul 27 2006, 09:37 PM

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ya... i feel worry right now... so what is the right answer???
maybe wrong interpretation kot...
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post Jul 28 2006, 06:26 PM

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sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif .... huih simple question ... but answer huhuhuhhh sweat.gif sweat.gif

my try ..from my logic laa... an engine that cannot produce it proper power production due to the limitation applied to it from the manufacturer... it is apply because on how the operator decide maybe to preserve more fuel??? tongue.gif my try loorr

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post Jul 28 2006, 08:29 PM

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Aha! big mistake. using logic. and also, this is NOT an english language test! doh.gif

OK, about flat rated engine.

A flat rated engine will be rated like x thousand pounds of thrust at ISA+15.
eg, 22000 lbs. of thrust at ISA+15. Meaning, the engine is GUARANTEED by the manufacturer to produce the rated thrust (in this case 22000 pounds) as long as the temperature is NOT MORE than 30 deg. celsius.(ISA+15), hence the 'flat rating'. Simple right? IF you know the basics, yes! biggrin.gif

Now, next question: what happened if the temperature is above 30 deg. celsius? tongue.gif

BTW, are we deviating from the topic? Maybe we should start a thread for LWTR questions huh? tongue.gif




QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Jul 28 2006, 06:26 PM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif .... huih simple question ... but answer huhuhuhhh sweat.gif  sweat.gif

my try ..from my logic laa... an engine that cannot produce it proper power production due to the limitation applied to it from the manufacturer... it is apply because on how the operator decide maybe to preserve  more fuel??? tongue.gif  my try loorr
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TSmr_ashraf
post Jul 28 2006, 11:53 PM

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my answer is after that engine exceed 30 deg celsius, 100% of thrust cannot be obtain and will result in engine overtemperature. bcoz the concept of flat rated engine is to enable engine produced a constant rated thrust aver a wide range.and important thing is not to damage the engine

is it the answer???

i think we are not deviate fro topic bcoz all are about license. question also part of licence kan????
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post Jul 29 2006, 12:41 AM

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heheheh my english huhuhuhhh...hmmmm the thrust will increas but the effect will be at the engine it will some how overdo the engine causing a shorter life to it due to the manufacturer that have rated the engine means like a 1.3 version of neo with a 1.6 neo huhuhhhu trying without wing uhuhuhuhhhhh...


P/s : no worry jazzy this is a thread to discuss about aviation espeacially maintenance huhuhhhhh by the way the post will help people understand more huhuhhh about our story huhuhuhuh... by the way mod if this thread kinda sux just msg us yaa (to mod ) we will cool it down smile.gif

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post Jul 30 2006, 07:09 PM

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uwaa..byknye ilmu...lek kabadi gemuk slow2..
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post Jul 30 2006, 10:10 PM

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ashraf/kabadi,
i'd say your answer is not acceptable. your answer is still based on your logical reasoning and (mis)interpretation of the question.
For a start, I suggest you better start learning the approach how to answer properly. It all starts with your train of thoughts... compose the facts,then layout the answer. They don't teach you this, NO?

please,polish your english! Its a prerequisit that you can read/write and speak proper english...


QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Jul 29 2006, 12:41 AM)
heheheh  my english huhuhuhhh...hmmmm the thrust  will  increas but the effect will be at the engine it will some how overdo the engine causing a shorter life to it  due to the manufacturer that have rated the engine    means like a 1.3 version of neo with a 1.6  neo huhuhhhu trying without wing  uhuhuhuhhhhh...
P/s : no worry jazzy this is a thread to discuss about aviation espeacially maintenance huhuhhhhh by the way the post will help people understand more huhuhhh about our story huhuhuhuh... by the way mod if this thread kinda sux just msg us yaa (to mod ) we will cool it down  smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2006, 11:00 PM

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my7 answer is based on what have i read in a book about rated engine. soj azzy could u tell us what are athe actual answer.????
i also want to know a correct answer...
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post Jul 31 2006, 10:54 AM

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Haha! Thats too easy. You have to do better than that ler.

The intention here is to tell you that, whatever that you know/read at this point of time is (to my point of view) is insufficient for you to go thru the exam, particularly the ORAL. You need to be good, no, you need to be darn good! Got my point?



QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Jul 30 2006, 11:00 PM)
my7 answer is based on what have i read in a book about rated engine. soj azzy could u tell us what are athe actual answer.????
i also want to know a correct answer...
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:48 PM

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yah i understand... so can you tell us what is the answer...
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post Aug 1 2006, 07:48 PM

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well, thats for you to find out! wink.gif

Let's throw you another one.

Describe Brayton Pressure Cycle.
How does this related to the gas turbine engine?



QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Jul 31 2006, 12:48 PM)
yah i understand... so can you tell us what is the answer...
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post Aug 2 2006, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 1 2006, 07:48 PM)
well, thats for you to find out! wink.gif

Let's throw you another one.

Describe Brayton Pressure Cycle.
How does this related to the gas turbine engine?
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alamak ..huhuhhh know but mcm basic je this but wanna contruct a good sentesnse for you aaa sifu huhuh currently sruggling to remeber n understand air leg arrgggghh.....
btway wanna ask jazzy is mmoe a document that follow standard do their have spesific standard stated by dca ?? for example air asia ?? do they have similar standard of mmoe like mas mmoe ????? smile.gif plezz jazzy help mee huhuuhh
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ooops, then you better concentrate on your airleg dude!

MMOE? There is no standard or format but the mandatory requirements are laid out in the AN. Now, which AN is that? tongue.gif

But more importantly, why is MMOE important? What is so significant about having an MMOE?

QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Aug 2 2006, 06:19 PM)
alamak ..huhuhhh know but mcm basic je  this but wanna contruct a good sentesnse for you aaa sifu huhuh currently sruggling to remeber  n understand air leg arrgggghh.....
btway wanna ask jazzy is mmoe a document that follow standard do their have spesific standard stated by dca ?? for example air asia ?? do they have similar standard of mmoe like mas mmoe ????? smile.gif  plezz jazzy help mee huhuuhh
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wow...reading all of this make me realize that i got to work damn hard... prepare to sacrifice everything!!!!
TSmr_ashraf
post Aug 3 2006, 05:58 PM

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yah ... the important thing is SACRIFY..
forget the rest and just cocentrate to licence...
hmm....
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post Aug 3 2006, 06:15 PM

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why i do ask this because some of the card jobcard irc ..bla bla ...have some part refer mmoe ...as for in stance in CRS the certifeable word are coded as to refer to mmoe 5-5-00 if i not mistaken if mistake mr jazzy plez rectify huhuhuhuh ... to me those word are like authorization word woldnt it mean it is a need to do that in a standard manner ?? as i learn mmoe need dca approval taht whay i ask ?? huhuhhuhuh


to answer some of the question ... an yang cite pasal aoc kot jap usha an jap an hahah an68 kan huhuhuhhu ...mmoe for my understanding is like the resume of the company to have hold of AOC it need to have all the info of the company how they handle things as far as our concern thins that involve maintenance huhuhuhhuh

scold me if im wrong im still need to learn more sweat.gif
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poor me, i'm an avionics man who sit lwtr engine trade

so there are 2 questions left ;
1st. what happened to the engine if the temperature is above 30 deg. celsius and 2nd. Describe Brayton Pressure Cycle.
How does this related to the gas turbine engine?....

*others go and find the answers....
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post Aug 3 2006, 06:41 PM

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amir hang jawabkan la brayton cylce tu...hish ... malas la tu .... brayton cycle tu tell how they explain constant pressure engine which is turbine engine ..its the relation of pressure versus volume of the thing inside the engine.....air kot huhuhhuhhh .... how it relate from intake,compression,combustion,and exhaust ...

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