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post Jul 22 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 22 2015, 07:09 PM)
This is the problem with Android boxes and so i have been saying i don't like to use Android boxes when it comes to KODI.
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Totally agree with Jaan76 here thumbup.gif I used to have a cheap android box when i was starting to explore with KODI and had similar issues. I also have unifi10 mbps during this time. After adopting Rpi2 I don't c this issue.

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QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Jul 22 2015, 07:51 PM)
I am using unifi 5mbps
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that speed is a bit low for good connectivity but should be ok for kodi sd streams.

and kodi does not work well on some androids esp older models (chipset not fully supporting xbmc/kodi), that much is clear.

however, for higher end newer androids, kodi works very well, no problem.

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post Jul 22 2015, 09:06 PM

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That video stuttering is really disturbing..I have changed the video refresh rate on setting but it does not work..am I have issue with the hardware of my mibox mini?
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Jul 22 2015, 09:06 PM)
That video stuttering is really disturbing..I have changed the video refresh rate on setting but it does not work..am I have issue with the hardware of my mibox mini?
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You need to check the Video Acceleration settings, also under Video->Playback->Adjust display refresh rate to match video... change that to "Off" and Video->Playback->Sync playback to display to "On" or "check"

This may help you with stutter.
BTW are you using Audio Passthrough?
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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 22 2015, 07:05 PM)
Well this has been discussed in detail in earlier post, if you just go back few pages and look for my posts you will find i have explained in quite detail PROS/CONS of Android boxes and RPI2.
In a nutshell for Kodi RPI2 is far better than any Android Box but it's only if using Kodi is your only requirement.
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Thx for kindness explain again...i go find previous thread...tqvm ya
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 22 2015, 09:19 PM)
You need to check the Video Acceleration settings, also under Video->Playback->Adjust display refresh rate to match video... change that to "Off" and Video->Playback->Sync playback to display to "On" or "check"

This may help you with stutter.
BTW are you using Audio Passthrough?
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Hello Chief - is it possible to give us more information on the following? hmm.gif

You need to check the Video Acceleration settings, also under Video->Playback->Adjust display refresh rate to match video... change that to "Off" and Video->Playback->Sync playback to display to "On" or "check"

1. What setting you recommend for OpenElec?
2. If we to change as the above recommendation, does it affect the sound system via AVR?

Thanks again for your advice icon_rolleyes.gif

ciao!
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post Jul 22 2015, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Jul 22 2015, 09:59 PM)
Hello Chief - is it possible to give us more information on the following?  hmm.gif

You need to check the Video Acceleration settings, also under Video->Playback->Adjust display refresh rate to match video... change that to "Off" and Video->Playback->Sync playback to display to "On" or "check"

1. What setting you recommend for OpenElec?
2. If we to change as the above recommendation, does it affect the sound system via AVR?

Thanks again for your advice  icon_rolleyes.gif

ciao!
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I won't suggest to play with "Adjust display refresh rate" setting first, keep it to "off", only change "Sync Playback" to "On" / "Check", this also if you feel/face stuttering issue, I have "Sync Playback" to "On" on my FireTV and other devices cuz on my FireTV i was experiencing stuttering but this doesn't effect my Audio Passthrough and there's no sync problem i'm facing.
You need to check and confirm your TV supported Hz and also your AVR supported Hz, only then play with "Adjust display refresh" settings.

For further explanation read below.

"Adjust Display Refresh Rate" will switch the output refresh rate when playing back a file to the best refresh rate that is supported by the display AND the hardware Kodi is running on (as reported by EDID) If you don't select this option then you output at a fixed display refresh rate, which is usually set in Settings->System->Video Output. This setting allows Kodi to change the frame rate of the video output fed to the display, to ensure the best refresh rate is selected.

So if you have a display that supports 50Hz and 60Hz content, 50Hz content will be output at 50Hz and 60Hz content at 60Hz, however 24Hz will be output at 60Hz with 3:2 (ignoring 1000/1001 refresh rates (*))
If you have a display that supports 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz content, then 24Hz will be output at 24H, 50Hz at 50Hz and 60Hz at 60Hz. This is great if you have a display and hardware that copes with everything flawlessly.

"Sync Playback to Display" is different. It alters the playback speed so that it matches the display refresh rate (which could be fixed or could be variable if you have also selected Adjust Display Refresh Rate)

Why is this useful?

Say you have a 50Hz display but 24p content. 24p content will look horrible if you play at 50Hz, but if you Sync Playback to Display it will play the 24Hz back at 25Hz which will look much nicer at 50Hz. (Even if you have a display that syncs to 60Hz and could watch 24p material with 3:2 - which is nicer - you may still chose to watch at 50Hz with speed up and 2:2 to avoid the 3:2 judder. I sometimes do.)

Also - if you have a Kodi platform that can't cope with 23.976Hz output, but it can cope with 24.000Hz, you would normally get a repeated frame every 40" or so to keep stuff in sync. However if you also select Sync Playback to Display then Kodi will slow speed up the 23.976Hz content to 24.000Hz - so no repeated frames (and thus no stutter) but you then have to sort the audio sync out (either by resampling or by dupe/dropping)

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post Jul 23 2015, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 22 2015, 10:15 PM)
I won't suggest to play with "Adjust display refresh rate" setting first, keep it to "off", only change "Sync Playback" to "On" / "Check", this also if you feel/face stuttering issue, I have "Sync Playback" to "On" on my FireTV and other devices cuz on my FireTV i was experiencing stuttering but this doesn't effect my Audio Passthrough and there's no sync problem i'm facing.
You need to check and confirm your TV supported Hz and also your AVR supported Hz, only then play with "Adjust display refresh" settings.

For further explanation read below.

"Adjust Display Refresh Rate" will switch the output refresh rate when playing back a file to the best refresh rate that is supported by the display AND the hardware Kodi is running on (as reported by EDID) If you don't select this option then you output at a fixed display refresh rate, which is usually set in Settings->System->Video Output. This setting allows Kodi to change the frame rate of the video output fed to the display, to ensure the best refresh rate is selected.

So if you have a display that supports 50Hz and 60Hz content, 50Hz content will be output at 50Hz and 60Hz content at 60Hz, however 24Hz will be output at 60Hz with 3:2 (ignoring 1000/1001 refresh rates (*))
If you have a display that supports 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz content, then 24Hz will be output at 24H, 50Hz at 50Hz and 60Hz at 60Hz. This is great if you have a display and hardware that copes with everything flawlessly.

"Sync Playback to Display" is different. It alters the playback speed so that it matches the display refresh rate (which could be fixed or could be variable if you have also selected Adjust Display Refresh Rate)

Why is this useful?

Say you have a 50Hz display but 24p content. 24p content will look horrible if you play at 50Hz, but if you Sync Playback to Display it will play the 24Hz back at 25Hz which will look much nicer at 50Hz. (Even if you have a display that syncs to 60Hz and could watch 24p material with 3:2 - which is nicer - you may still chose to watch at 50Hz with speed up and 2:2 to avoid the 3:2 judder. I sometimes do.)

Also - if you have a Kodi platform that can't cope with 23.976Hz output, but it can cope with 24.000Hz, you would normally get a repeated frame every 40" or so to keep stuff in sync. However if you also select Sync Playback to Display then Kodi will slow speed up the 23.976Hz content to 24.000Hz - so no repeated frames (and thus no stutter) but you then have to sort the audio sync out (either by resampling or by dupe/dropping)
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Thanks for the explanation..is there any way I can add subtitle to genesis or other addon?

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post Jul 23 2015, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Jul 23 2015, 01:59 AM)
Thanks for the explanation..is there any way I can add subtitle to genesis or other addon?
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Install opensubtitle add-on from the subtitle add-ons then if a movie won't have a subtitle you will be able to download on the fly while watching movie.
If you want the subtitle to be downloaded automatically at the start of a movie then also install "Autosub" add-on.
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post Jul 23 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jul 18 2015, 09:32 AM)
I don't know what's the problem but I don't think it's line speed.

I can watch the same channels (e.g Discovery Channel,  I.D Investigation Discovery) from IPTV Stalker without any buffering. The player shows 720P.

But when I watch the same two channels from your listing , they buffer every 2-5 seconds. The player shows SD.

I am thinking it's got to do with the sources where the stream are from. When I have the time, I will explore more channels to see if it's only some sources that's giving this problem.
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I do encounter the similar problem as you, keep on buffering every 2 to 5 seconds for discovery channel and science channel even with IPTV stalker.

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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Jul 19 2015, 12:32 PM)
HI all,

Has anyone used MiBox supported by KODI before?
Found a seller below:
mibox kodi
And I'm quite interested with it.
Please let me know if there's any issue with this box/mod so that I can start looking for others. (Completely clueless in this area)
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Hi...anyone that can help me with the above question?

Thanks
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rp2 seems like more of a recommended solutions, but i'm not really familiar with this thing. like whats the ui like and how do i navigate?
i'm looking at android tv currently.
at least used to the android environment, but the price for a android tv seems rather expensive compare to a usual 1

Here's what I'm looking for. please suggest to try rp2 or just stick with android
1. My house has Unifi10mb
2. Mostly for viewing tv programs. Kodi(best currently?) have its own UI so every time start the device can run directly the kodi?
3. Add-on or apps can be install in? (need consider the space?)
4. rp2 can connect to network and search and play local media?
5. can setup wireless keyboard/mouse?
6. got tv controller?
7. android tv can install controller app in phone and control, kodi got?

Anything else i need to take in consideration?

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post Jul 23 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 23 2015, 02:30 AM)
Install opensubtitle add-on from the subtitle add-ons then if a movie won't have a subtitle you will be able to download on the fly while watching movie.
If you want the subtitle to be downloaded automatically at the start of a movie then also install "Autosub" add-on.
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Thanks rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Jul 23 2015, 01:20 PM)
Hi...anyone that can help me with the above question?

Thanks
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Bro, Android boxes are kind of all the same using similar kind of chipsets and most of the seller sell their Android boxes for Kodi (At least that's how they always advertise) If your only use is to run Kodi to watch Movies, Dramas and Live channels then i would suggest better go with RPI2 as that's more stable and performance is also better.
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QUOTE(+ @ Jul 23 2015, 01:23 PM)
rp2 seems like more of a recommended solutions, but i'm not really familiar with this thing. like whats the ui like and how do i navigate?
i'm looking at android tv currently.
at least used to the android environment, but the price for a android tv seems rather expensive compare to a usual 1

Here's what I'm looking for. please suggest to try rp2 or just stick with android
1. My house has Unifi10mb
2. Mostly for viewing tv programs. Kodi(best currently?) have its own UI so every time start the device can run directly the kodi?
3. Add-on or apps can be install in? (need consider the space?)
4. rp2 can connect to network and search and play local media?
5. can setup wireless keyboard/mouse?
6. got tv controller?
7. android tv can install controller app in phone and control, kodi got?

Anything else i need to take in consideration?
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Bro RPI 2 is more recommended for a pure use of Kodi, as if you only want to use the device for Kodi then better go with RPI2, it's the best solution for that price.
Now as far as your queries are concerned:
1. You can go to youtube or Kodi/OpenElec/OSMC websites to see the interface.... as RPI2 will straight boot into this OS/Environment... which also highly customisable to your liking
2. 10MB will be good
3. Yes you can watch TV/Movies/Dramas online or offline with Kodi and as i mentioned earlier it boots directly into that interface.
4. The maximum no of add-ons on any platform are available with Kodi so this is not an issue
5. Yes it can connect to your local network or internet to search and play contents
6. Yes you can setup remote/keyboard/mouse
7. there are live TV add-ons available
8. Yes there's a app available to control Kodi from your iphone/android device name is Kori... which is available in play store.

The device is even more simple and straight forward than any Android device as in an Android device first you have to boot in Android and then run Kodi... Also it's very easy to build and setup... and if you like there are people her who will be willing to help you (I have build 4 devices this week for few forumers here smile.gif )
So if you can't do it yourself ... you can always find a soul willing to help you smile.gif Enjoy
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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 23 2015, 04:02 PM)
Bro, Android boxes are kind of all the same using similar kind of chipsets and most of the seller sell their Android boxes for Kodi (At least that's how they always advertise) If your only use is to run Kodi to watch Movies, Dramas and Live channels then i would suggest better go with RPI2 as that's more stable and performance is also better.
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May I know where I can get RPI2?
Was also looking at HiMedia Q2, Q3 & Q5 as recommended by other forumers - do let me know where I can get the box that has RPI2.

Thanks!

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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Jul 23 2015, 04:24 PM)
May I know where I can get RPI2?
Was also looking at HiMedia Q2, Q3 & Q5 as recommended by other forumers - do let me know where I can get the box that has RPI2.

Thanks!
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http://my.element14.com/raspberry-pi/raspb...SearchLookAhead
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Appreciate the quick response - is there a box that I can just buy which I can just plug n play?

Not very good with these stuffs cry.gif
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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Jul 23 2015, 04:24 PM)
May I know where I can get RPI2?
Was also looking at HiMedia Q2, Q3 & Q5 as recommended by other forumers - do let me know where I can get the box that has RPI2.

Thanks!
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You could buy RPI 2 from this seller called PIER (official reseller from element 14)
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/Feedback/User...p?UserID=PIER@1

Thanks to @jaan76, i just received my RPI 2 ytd and almost finished the setup and all.


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QUOTE(jaan76 @ Jul 22 2015, 10:15 PM)
I won't suggest to play with "Adjust display refresh rate" setting first, keep it to "off", only change "Sync Playback" to "On" / "Check", this also if you feel/face stuttering issue, I have "Sync Playback" to "On" on my FireTV and other devices cuz on my FireTV i was experiencing stuttering but this doesn't effect my Audio Passthrough and there's no sync problem i'm facing.
You need to check and confirm your TV supported Hz and also your AVR supported Hz, only then play with "Adjust display refresh" settings.

For further explanation read below.

"Adjust Display Refresh Rate" will switch the output refresh rate when playing back a file to the best refresh rate that is supported by the display AND the hardware Kodi is running on (as reported by EDID) If you don't select this option then you output at a fixed display refresh rate, which is usually set in Settings->System->Video Output. This setting allows Kodi to change the frame rate of the video output fed to the display, to ensure the best refresh rate is selected.

So if you have a display that supports 50Hz and 60Hz content, 50Hz content will be output at 50Hz and 60Hz content at 60Hz, however 24Hz will be output at 60Hz with 3:2 (ignoring 1000/1001 refresh rates (*))
If you have a display that supports 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz content, then 24Hz will be output at 24H, 50Hz at 50Hz and 60Hz at 60Hz. This is great if you have a display and hardware that copes with everything flawlessly.

"Sync Playback to Display" is different. It alters the playback speed so that it matches the display refresh rate (which could be fixed or could be variable if you have also selected Adjust Display Refresh Rate)

Why is this useful?

Say you have a 50Hz display but 24p content. 24p content will look horrible if you play at 50Hz, but if you Sync Playback to Display it will play the 24Hz back at 25Hz which will look much nicer at 50Hz. (Even if you have a display that syncs to 60Hz and could watch 24p material with 3:2 - which is nicer - you may still chose to watch at 50Hz with speed up and 2:2 to avoid the 3:2 judder. I sometimes do.)

Also - if you have a Kodi platform that can't cope with 23.976Hz output, but it can cope with 24.000Hz, you would normally get a repeated frame every 40" or so to keep stuff in sync. However if you also select Sync Playback to Display then Kodi will slow speed up the 23.976Hz content to 24.000Hz - so no repeated frames (and thus no stutter) but you then have to sort the audio sync out (either by resampling or by dupe/dropping)
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Thanks for the detail explanation Chief, appreciated.

I have changed the settings as per your advice and YES I can see the difference. Movies/TV shows I see on my TV looks big and fully occupy the screen thumbup.gif

a quick one: the "A/V sync Method - default is Video clock (resample audio)" do I need to change anything here?

btw. if you don't mind, do you mind sharing your "audio output" and "Videos Playback" settings on your Rpi2 notworthy.gif

have a nice day chief and thanks again.

ciao!

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