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post Feb 27 2014, 04:04 PM

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^so many record broken not even one full season in-charge

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post Feb 27 2014, 10:45 PM

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I am still adamant of United's chances of progressing into the quarter-finals; one need not look any further with Chelsea's 2011/2012 Champions League winning season which started with a first leg 3-1 defeat away to Napoli in the Last 16, but went on to beat the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich to win the trophy despite finishing sixth the Premier League.

I just want to urge all United fans to be patient, because we all know the mammoth task of succeeding SAF will definitely harness a few bad hiccups along the way. Sure, people can say DM has inherited a team of Premier League champions but obviously he has his own ideals and philosophies that he wants to inject into a side which has been quietly deteriorating over the years. (recalling an already retired Paul Scholes, buying a 29 year-old frontman, and constantly relying on a 40-year old winger to play CM only goes to show that SAF, with all due respect, has gradually run out of ideas to rebuild an aging squad).

We have got to see glimpses of some of those ideals being translated onto the pitch with a more cautious approach in most games in efforts to retain some stability and balance onto United's tactics, and I believe this system will have to take time to build and is difficult to be judged right away. I think if United adopts the sort of holy-trinity creative outlets most top European teams are currently deploying (Hazard-Oscar-Willian, Bale-Ronaldo-Di Maria, Robben-Kroos-Gotze) on top of a line-up which shows stability, then that is the time that we can truly see the ability of the team that DM is trying to architect. At the moment our most creative players, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa are all playing in similar positions, so DM and Ed Woodward must step up efforts to bring in extra-dimensional creative outlets to really strengthen the team.

I say axe Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia because they have been give too many opportunities but failed to deliver, and bring in the 6-7 world-class talents as suggested by Roy Keane, only then we can judge whether DM is the right manager or not. I say give it until next season, if there is still no improvement, then only we should debate on whether DM should stay or go.

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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Feb 27 2014, 01:20 PM)
what a season..ugly jersey, mediocre manager who break all sorts of unwanted records, got dumped out of all cup competition (well,,almost all soon)..possibly no CL football next season...seems to be a good start for the downward spiral..

oh wai~..only 1 season je..pool's fan suffered longer than that  laugh.gif
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well, at least this season's jersey is not as bad as the infamous table cloth laugh.gif

oh well, there's always a silver lining at every clouds.

no matter how much we want moyes to go, the board seems to be very forgiving and gave moyes another chance (the last chance i believe) to keep the sinking sailboat sailing.

hopefully after harsh criticisms from literally every corners of the world, moyes will finally make up his mind about his best starting 11 and play a more positive and attacking football.

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post Feb 28 2014, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(thatsound @ Feb 27 2014, 10:45 PM)
I am still adamant of United's chances of progressing into the quarter-finals; one need not look any further with Chelsea's 2011/2012 Champions League winning season which started with a first leg 3-1 defeat away to Napoli in the Last 16, but went on to beat the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich to win the trophy despite finishing sixth the Premier League.

I just want to urge all United fans to be patient, because we all know the mammoth task of succeeding SAF will definitely harness a few bad hiccups along the way. Sure, people can say DM has inherited a team of Premier League champions but obviously he has his own ideals and philosophies that he wants to inject into a side which has been quietly deteriorating over the years. (recalling an already retired Paul Scholes, buying a 29 year-old frontman, and constantly relying on a 40-year old winger to play CM only goes to show that SAF, with all due respect, has gradually run out of ideas to rebuild an aging squad).

We have got to see glimpses of some of those ideals being translated onto the pitch with a more cautious approach in most games in efforts to retain some stability and balance onto United's tactics, and I believe this system will have to take time to build and is difficult to be judged right away. I think if United adopts the sort of holy-trinity creative outlets most top European teams are currently deploying (Hazard-Oscar-Willian, Bale-Ronaldo-Di Maria, Robben-Kroos-Gotze) on top of a line-up which shows stability, then that is the time that we can truly see the ability of the team that DM is trying to architect. At the moment our most creative players, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa are all playing in similar positions, so DM and Ed Woodward must step up efforts to bring in extra-dimensional creative outlets to really strengthen the team.

I say axe Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia because they have been give too many opportunities but failed to deliver, and bring in the 6-7 world-class talents as suggested by Roy Keane, only then we can judge whether DM is the right manager or not. I say give it until next season, if there is still no improvement, then only we should debate on whether DM should stay or go.
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to do same like chelsea in 2011/2012 ucl winning season then 1st must sack moyes...just like chelsea sack villa boas..
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post Feb 28 2014, 12:32 AM

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Ashely Young needs to be shipped out, problem is..will there be any takers? Crossing the ball without looking at who's inside the box beforehand. Get the ball, cross. Lel.
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Poor Kagawa.. Nobody want to past to him..
Get the ball, straight pass to wing.. Too one dimensional attack..

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Poor Kagawa.. Nobody want to past to him..
Get the ball, straight pass to wing.. Too one dimensional attack..
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post Feb 28 2014, 02:28 AM

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hernandez posted this after persie criticized his team mates.

woooooooo.. dark time ahead, guys.
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post Feb 28 2014, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Feb 28 2014, 02:28 AM)
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hernandez posted this after persie criticized his team mates.

woooooooo.. dark time ahead, guys.
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he already clarified that

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RVP has too cleared the speculation

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Manchester United's apologetic Robin van Persie insists THOSE comments weren't aimed at team-mates or David Moyes

'Genuinely shocked' star has pulled colleagues aside at training and assured them he WASN'T complaining they were getting in his way against Olympiakos

Robin van Persie has said sorry to his Manchester United teammates and claimed he was not criticising them in a post-match interview earlier this week.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...bin-van-3190235


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post Feb 28 2014, 09:36 AM

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post Feb 28 2014, 09:57 AM

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I hope they practice what they preached "THE FA AGAINST RACISM" but they way I see... Kagawa situation is worse than JS Park. remember how excited the fans were last season when SAF signed him?.... well, those were the days...
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QUOTE(thatsound @ Feb 27 2014, 10:45 PM)
I am still adamant of United's chances of progressing into the quarter-finals; one need not look any further with Chelsea's 2011/2012 Champions League winning season which started with a first leg 3-1 defeat away to Napoli in the Last 16, but went on to beat the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich to win the trophy despite finishing sixth the Premier League.

I just want to urge all United fans to be patient, because we all know the mammoth task of succeeding SAF will definitely harness a few bad hiccups along the way. Sure, people can say DM has inherited a team of Premier League champions but obviously he has his own ideals and philosophies that he wants to inject into a side which has been quietly deteriorating over the years. (recalling an already retired Paul Scholes, buying a 29 year-old frontman, and constantly relying on a 40-year old winger to play CM only goes to show that SAF, with all due respect, has gradually run out of ideas to rebuild an aging squad).

We have got to see glimpses of some of those ideals being translated onto the pitch with a more cautious approach in most games in efforts to retain some stability and balance onto United's tactics, and I believe this system will have to take time to build and is difficult to be judged right away. I think if United adopts the sort of holy-trinity creative outlets most top European teams are currently deploying (Hazard-Oscar-Willian, Bale-Ronaldo-Di Maria, Robben-Kroos-Gotze) on top of a line-up which shows stability, then that is the time that we can truly see the ability of the team that DM is trying to architect. At the moment our most creative players, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa are all playing in similar positions, so DM and Ed Woodward must step up efforts to bring in extra-dimensional creative outlets to really strengthen the team.

I say axe Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia because they have been give too many opportunities but failed to deliver, and bring in the 6-7 world-class talents as suggested by Roy Keane, only then we can judge whether DM is the right manager or not. I say give it until next season, if there is still no improvement, then only we should debate on whether DM should stay or go.
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I don't think SAF ran out of ideas. I think he did that because:
1) He wanted to get players who were mature and ready to deliver performances (Kagawa/RvP), and who could eventually replace Rooney if necessary (look at what happened last season, SAF was ready to offload him instead of risking another 2010 scenario).
2) He wanted more mature players because he was nearing the end of his time @ OT and wanted to sign off with a bang (EPL title/CL/whathaveyou).

SAF said before that teams typically run in 4 year cycles, after which you need to rebuild or the team loses steam. Rebuilding a team takes time, 2 maybe 3 years before the team peaks. Strongly suspect that SAF would have retired a season earlier if we had won the title then. We didn't so he stayed and held things together and dragged the team to one last title before stepping down and giving the team rebuilding task to someone younger.

Edit: Also, I'd rather we signed 2-3 players (LB, CM especially) and looked at promoting from within for the remaining slots. Signing too many new players won't help either, since it will be too many changes to the team and everyone will be unfamiliar with each other. If we are gonna get 6-7 new signings then it's better to spread it over a few transfer windows.


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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 28 2014, 12:32 AM)
Ashely Young needs to be shipped out, problem is..will there be any takers? Crossing the ball without looking at who's inside the box beforehand. Get the ball, cross. Lel.
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Quite hard, and he is on big wages too. United would need to find someone willing to pay his huge salary and a transfer fee. Given how Young has been performing since he joined, that is pretty unlikely unless we take a huge loss on his transfer fee.


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QUOTE(thatsound @ Feb 27 2014, 10:45 PM)
I am still adamant of United's chances of progressing into the quarter-finals; one need not look any further with Chelsea's 2011/2012 Champions League winning season which started with a first leg 3-1 defeat away to Napoli in the Last 16, but went on to beat the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich to win the trophy despite finishing sixth the Premier League.

I just want to urge all United fans to be patient, because we all know the mammoth task of succeeding SAF will definitely harness a few bad hiccups along the way. Sure, people can say DM has inherited a team of Premier League champions but obviously he has his own ideals and philosophies that he wants to inject into a side which has been quietly deteriorating over the years. (recalling an already retired Paul Scholes, buying a 29 year-old frontman, and constantly relying on a 40-year old winger to play CM only goes to show that SAF, with all due respect, has gradually run out of ideas to rebuild an aging squad).

We have got to see glimpses of some of those ideals being translated onto the pitch with a more cautious approach in most games in efforts to retain some stability and balance onto United's tactics, and I believe this system will have to take time to build and is difficult to be judged right away. I think if United adopts the sort of holy-trinity creative outlets most top European teams are currently deploying (Hazard-Oscar-Willian, Bale-Ronaldo-Di Maria, Robben-Kroos-Gotze) on top of a line-up which shows stability, then that is the time that we can truly see the ability of the team that DM is trying to architect. At the moment our most creative players, Mata, Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa are all playing in similar positions, so DM and Ed Woodward must step up efforts to bring in extra-dimensional creative outlets to really strengthen the team.

I say axe Tom Cleverly, Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia because they have been give too many opportunities but failed to deliver, and bring in the 6-7 world-class talents as suggested by Roy Keane, only then we can judge whether DM is the right manager or not. I say give it until next season, if there is still no improvement, then only we should debate on whether DM should stay or go.
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I think you're a little optimistic. lol. But that's a good thing I guess. Hope springs eternal.

Personally, I'm going to watch the rest of the season with no expectations and look forward to next season, where hopefully United will have a more productive summer transfer and more time for Moyes and the team to adapt to each other.

#hopefortop4nextseason

QUOTE(G_KeN @ Feb 27 2014, 11:53 PM)
well, at least this season's jersey is not as bad as the infamous table cloth  laugh.gif

oh well, there's always a silver lining at every clouds.

no matter how much we want moyes to go, the board seems to be very forgiving and gave moyes another chance (the last chance i believe) to keep the sinking sailboat sailing.

hopefully after harsh criticisms from literally every corners of the world, moyes will finally make up his mind about his best starting 11 and play a more positive and attacking football.

#berdiritegangdibelakangmoyes
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To me, I'm not worried.

What's the worst that could happen? MU rot in mid table a couple of years.

If MU rot in mid table a couple of years, what will happen? Revenue falls.

If revenue falls, what will happen? MU will be devalued dramatically and Glazers will have trouble paying off loans.

When that happens, guess what will happen? Glazers will sell. At a lower price. GG. brows.gif

So to me, I'm not worried. As a matter of fact, it's becoming increasingly clear that this is all a plot by SAF and Gill to overthrow the Glazers. That old fox. laugh.gif

#damnitimnotdelusional

QUOTE(andrewtho @ Feb 28 2014, 12:32 AM)
Ashely Young needs to be shipped out, problem is..will there be any takers? Crossing the ball without looking at who's inside the box beforehand. Get the ball, cross. Lel.
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When playing a crossing game, there are two key things. One the player can pick out teammates and aim for them. Or two. He can aim for default positions in the box, such as near post, far post and his teammates will automatically attack those areas assuming he will cross there. But this is on the assumption that the person can chuck in a proper cross in the first place. The quality of crossing we've seen this season is shocking. I can understand that Smalling can't cross. But Rafael and Valencia as well? Even their deliveries have not been consistent this season. I really don't know what went wrong.

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Feb 28 2014, 10:56 AM)
To me, I'm not worried.

What's the worst that could happen? MU rot in mid table a couple of years.

If MU rot in mid table a couple of years, what will happen? Revenue falls.

If revenue falls, what will happen? MU will be devalued dramatically and Glazers will have trouble paying off loans.

When that happens, guess what will happen? Glazers will sell. At a lower price. GG. brows.gif

So to me, I'm not worried. As a matter of fact, it's becoming increasingly clear that this is all a plot by SAF and Gill to overthrow the Glazers. That old fox.  laugh.gif

#damnitimnotdelusional

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lastime u asked me wat weed i smoking...i ran outta it that time.. had to restock with Mary-Louise Parker brows.gif icon_idea.gif drool.gif

now my turn to ask you back: wat weed u schmoking la?? kasi some lai. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Andy Cole is coming next week to Mid Valley next Friday.

You all goin?

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lastime u asked me wat weed i smoking...i ran outta it that time.. had to restock with Mary-Louise Parker  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif  drool.gif 

now my turn to ask you back: wat weed u schmoking la?? kasi some lai.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Was it you who posted this last time?

Now you know why you run out so fast lar.

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United need a new LB,1-2 good CBs, a good defensive midfielder.Carrick can do the job..but he's already..32?They need a partner for the more robust Fellaini,so if his partner is just like for example Roy Keane,Fellaini has a free roam,atm,i can see his not moving as a free roaming centre midfielder cause he needs to help Carrick at the centre of the midfield.United need a miracle to get into UCL this season though. cry.gif

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