It's quite ironic that Moyes has openly taking all the responsibilities of poor results but kept talking about rebuilding the team. So, was he saying the fault is not on the players but his own dinosaur tactics? Or he just playing taichi to indicate this whole squad, who won the league by 11 points last season, is not up to his "united standard"?

Seriously, it contradicts the reason that United hired him in the first place isn't it? Yeah maybe they want him to build another dynasty, but for sure it must follow his way of spotting talent yet spend less money method right!? The money he spent in last 6 months was a staggering £65m, good enough for good-scouting-manager to build at least half the squad!!

Didn't have much expectation on this match anyway so 1 point away to Arsenal seems a decent result especially we didn't concede goal. It's just that the European Footballs are slipping away further more when Liverpool won at Fulham with last 10 minute PK.

Tom Cleverley still doesn't look convincing enough to be a starter though. Other than doing the usual roaming around center part I just couldn't remember he did anything offensive to actually set up a play or through pass or some sort. Everytime I see he gets the ball he will quickly pass it away (mostly backward) to avoid being tackled. He just doesn't have the confidence with the ball or not man enough to handle responsibility and taking risk for offense play. Gone are the days Scholes one man can bring the ball from back to the front.

He couldn't even beat the local fiercest rivals, yet the board and SAF expect him to win against Europe elites? Com'on, this is United we are talking about. We are always winners. We should find a manager that can bring us forward, to challenge the likes of Barca, Real, Bayern, to do what SAF couldn't do. Yeah, SAF is a legend but he is still a human. For the good of the club he should be a motivation to the successor, not a bloody limitation.

Last season v this season (so far):
MU without Moyes: Winner
MU with Moyes: 7th

Everton with Moyes: 6th
Everton without Moyes: 6th

THIS.

A manager's job is to maximize the potential of any given player to him, not forcing players to fit into his tactic when it's obviously not working. Attackers are attackers, just because they didn't track back that often doesn't mean they are poor. Their job is to attack, and they should reserve the energy and aggressiveness for that purpose. The same you can't expect a defender to score heading goals all the time while abandoning the defense. Everyone should play their position to the maximum level so that the team can perform to its best. A good manager is the one who can find a way to try to maximize the players' abilities on the field.

For the fans sake I hope he won't ruin Mata, Kagawa and Januzaj's talents with his dinosaur tactics.

Well I'm not sure are they poor manager to you but at least to me they are better than David Moyes because their teams are currently sitting at the higher position than Manchester United.

Yeah I agree on the examples you mentioned who have the high defensive workrates, and for obvious reason that cannot apply on the likes of Kagawa, Mata and so on. What I was saying is they were bought for a reason, and that (main) reason is to attack. Their focus should be attack, not track back all the time to tackle back the ball. If we wanted them to do that, we should've bought a defensive midfielder or a central midfielder for that purpose, who should be better tackler. These players should create opportunities and score goals. Even though there are versatile players like Wayne Rooney and Juan Mata who can play in multiple positions, but for the long term benefit of the team, they should be playing their most effective position to help the team to win games. And you can only win games by scoring goals.

If Wayne Rooney actually followed his instinct, he should've made more shots outside the box when he had quite a few clear chances, instead of passing the ball out wide to the wingers who helped break the record of crosses in the Fulham game.

I have no complains on Mata's performance so far, just feel a little worry that his progress in the team could be stagnant due to the manager's tactics. The same goes to Kagawa, and any other talented player.

I support Manchester United football club more than its manager. I rather see a manager walk off a job that is out of his reach, than to see the talented players leaving Old Trafford due to his tactics and philosophy.

Peace.

This poor jap should have more assists under his belt. Talk about "unlucky", huh?

Yeah 300k per week is astronomical figure, and this might unbalance the team in terms of wage structure and stuff. Sad to say that United has no choice over this. He is the best player of this season for us, carry the whole team forward despite all those losses. Without him I think we should be at the bottom half table. Then he remains the most marketable player for United, also the biggest name to attract big players to join us in the future. In a (dark) time like this, his new contract could prove vital for the new season ahead. He is 28, his prime time, and this should be the last time he can ask for these figures (same as Ronaldo did last season with Real). Well, if he continues to perform like he does this season, then I see no reason why not tie him to another 5 years. Moyes can spend £27m on Fellaini so why not extend Rooney's contract? It might turn out to be the best thing Moyes ever did in his time at Old Trafford.

Hahahahaha Too frustrated liao must come out rant abit to balance the mood. Still following the games nevertheless.

Actually if you look at the video clip, Carrick had 3 mates in front of him who were being marked by 4-5 Arsenal players, so it's logical he passed it to Cleverley because he was facing sideway. Then Cleverley actually had a lot space to maneuver (pass to wide right) but chose to back pass again. To me, Cleverley was the most negative minded midfielder we have. He just doesn't hold on to the ball and bring forward play.

Exactly. Even though we didn't win back then but at least we were within Top 3 spot, not 7th.

As long as someone who can bring extra ideas on tactical play!!

Agree much. Rooney is that type of player that suits the United's "Never Say Die" spirit. He hates losing, more than anybody else. Even though his off-the-field antics are questionable especially the transfer request, but you couldn't doubt his commitment on the pitch when wearing a United shirt. He just gave it all, even during this down period when other players just sort of "gave up" the fighting spirit. If Rooney leaves in the summer, whoever is in charge will take even longer time to rebuild this team because he will need to find another core of the team.

I just can't understand all these nonsense about "improvement". FFS this is United we are talking about, a team that won the league by a mile with the same squad! Dropped out of all cup competition and finish outside of Top 4 is not an improvement! How can the club let some incompetence manager dragged down the team to his level and call it an improvement when he can finish the league slightly higher than his previous club? We are talking about a club that won trophy year after year being compared to some forever-mid-table-team FFS.

Enough is enough, just get rid of the cancer/poison/stumbling block that caused all these negativity at Old Trafford and start anew next season with someone who can match the United's ambition!

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LMAO Hahahahahaha~ XD

A night to remember...

Yeah, probably the last night we get to play Champions League football in coming years...

If nothing happens tomorrow morning, then we shall wait until the City game.

So we get to watch 2 more CL games.

Even thought RvP got the hatrick, but gotta credit Rooney and Giggs. Brilliant stuffs.

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With all due respect to SAF, he DID get paid for managing Manchester United. And the fans DO pay hard-earned money to get to Old Trafford to watch entertaining football. What do we have now? A uncharismatic manager playing uncharismatic football at the Theater of Dreams week-in week-out. We are not spoilt fans that demand trophy every season. SAF suffered few season without trophy in the last decaded and we stood by him too, because he was building the team for exciting football for the fans. After Cantona, we got Beckham. After Beckham, we got Ronaldo. That's what United is about. Attacking football, followed by victory and winning trophy. Where are these cores now?

Moyes now made the fans celebrate a victory against West Ham and Aston Villa, should we be happy about it? He made Manchester City as our aspiring team. He made the fans become numb about losing to big teams. He destroyed the Old Trafford fortress. And he even dare to say SAF would have suffered with this team too if he is still in charge, the team that won the league by 11 points last season.

Seriously, #moyesout please.

And about the banner, at least the people who organised paid their own money to make their voices heard and sent the strong message to the management team. Can we label them disgrace? The one who brought down United's standard to the drains is the disgraceful one, and that one person is David Fxxking Moyes.

So it's either we will offload the clueless one to Germany League or Pep will take charge of a Premier League club?? I just don't see the reason behind that "first of many battles" when you can't even qualify for the CL.

Exactly. It's not like we demand instant success and trophy every sesaon, but at least don't lose the United's fighting spirit both on and off the pitch.