QUOTE(Reon @ Feb 14 2014, 06:08 PM)
Well I'm not sure are they poor manager to you but at least to me they are better than David Moyes because their teams are currently sitting at the higher position than Manchester United.
Yeah I agree on the examples you mentioned who have the high defensive workrates, and for obvious reason that cannot apply on the likes of Kagawa, Mata and so on. What I was saying is they were bought for a reason, and that (main) reason is to attack. Their focus should be attack, not track back all the time to tackle back the ball. If we wanted them to do that, we should've bought a defensive midfielder or a central midfielder for that purpose, who should be better tackler. These players should create opportunities and score goals. Even though there are versatile players like Wayne Rooney and Juan Mata who can play in multiple positions, but for the long term benefit of the team, they should be playing their most effective position to help the team to win games. And you can only win games by scoring goals.
If Wayne Rooney actually followed his instinct, he should've made more shots outside the box when he had quite a few clear chances, instead of passing the ball out wide to the wingers who helped break the record of crosses in the Fulham game.
I have no complains on Mata's performance so far, just feel a little worry that his progress in the team could be stagnant due to the manager's tactics. The same goes to Kagawa, and any other talented player.
I support Manchester United football club more than its manager. I rather see a manager walk off a job that is out of his reach, than to see the talented players leaving Old Trafford due to his tactics and philosophy.
Peace.

I do agree that David Moyes is not very good with his tactics of late, but I was comparing about the different roles assigned to them by their managers even if it is not their original position. To be honest, players should be listening to the manager, because the manager is the figurehead of the team. I believe if SAF was around, no one would dared to question his authority, well maybe Keano but one thing for sure, the players have to respect their manager. Sure David is new to the club, maybe the players don't like him or he is just not as motivating as SAF, but the players need to respect him as their manager, listen to him eventhough it is not always correct.
I think Rooney's habit is this. He hates losing. Whenever the team is in trouble, he needs to be there to save them, forgetting his role as a forward. I have no issues with that, but at times Rooney can counter well, if you remember occasionally he does long-balls forward to the strikers in front, RVP/Chica etc. Mata will be fine, he enjoys his current role, playing multiple positions. Because his main role is currently occupied by Rooney, for the sake of avoiding Rooney's sulking temper /attitude or senior role at the club, Mata is has to give way, playing in another position.
As of now, I appreciate Mata's contribution to the club. His first touch is excellent, something that Wayne Rooney must look into. I foresee Rooney changing into a deeper role as he age on, maybe as a CM, there he can defend and distribute the ball at the same time. That last line wasn't meant for you, was speaking in general. Kagawa is a great player, just our play doesn't suit him. Heck, even SAF cannot make full use of his potential, always playing in different roles.
As long as David Moyes is the manager of the club, he has my respect. Of course not to the extend of supporting blindly, everyone has their limits. It's fine to share ideas and criticism, it's football after all, but not to the extend of calling the manager 'stupid'. Sure he made a few mistakes over the past weeks but I am still optimistic that he will change the tides around. He is given a 6 years contract for a reason, I believe it's time for him to show to everybody why he was the 'Chosen One'.
Cheers