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TSchokolato
post Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM, updated 12y ago

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ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:29 AM

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SP Setia...?
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM

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Setia Alam ah?

Oops. SP Setia. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM

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SP Setia?

few very big shots left recently
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM

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is the company SP Setia?
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jan 22 2014, 11:29 AM)
SP Setia...?
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
Setia Alam ah?
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walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM

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sp setia?


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post Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM

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What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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It's all over the news that big boss quit. So, he confirm starting new company. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM

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everyone also know hahaha
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM

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Now the company staffs........

not so setia are they?
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM

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The news so hot, sure we know lo. CEO of SP setia resign ma
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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More like big boss > company.


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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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hahahaha, TS, this LYN filled with many people who earn RM20k la. U think they dunno the ins and out of Msian business meh? hahaha.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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confirm sp setia
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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saupei setia
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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word is that Liew is joining Eco World.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(niwde @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
Now the company staffs........

not so setia are they?
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They setia to big boss not company. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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the news was so big laaaaa
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
It's all over the news that big boss quit. So, he confirm starting new company.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
The news so hot, sure we know lo. CEO of SP setia resign ma
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yameh? hmmmm.. but i didnt mention company name also... everywhere every company sure got director resign ma... how come u guys can guess accurately the company name..
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:33 AM

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SP setia lah


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post Jan 22 2014, 11:33 AM

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people who read the business section of newspapers would know that this is sp setia.going to eco world.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM

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bye bye sp setia
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM

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you mentioned big property group in malaysia. not many big in malaysia. imagine yeoh family leave ytl. LOL
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM

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takde kesetiaan langsung mia worker
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Yam Seng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM)
hahahaha, TS, this LYN filled with many people who earn RM20k la. U think they dunno the ins and out of Msian business meh? hahaha.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM)
yameh? hmmmm.. but i didnt mention company name also... everywhere every company sure got director resign ma... how come u guys can guess accurately the company name..
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM)
yameh? hmmmm.. but i didnt mention company name also... everywhere every company sure got director resign ma... how come u guys can guess accurately the company name..
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U r right that other companies might have. But not many get to be in the news headline brows.gif
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM)
yameh? hmmmm.. but i didnt mention company name also... everywhere every company sure got director resign ma... how come u guys can guess accurately the company name..
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:35 AM

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ada dlm paper pun dia announce to resign.. patut la my friend inform me bnyk vacancy now
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:35 AM

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CEO, CFO and Executive director all resigning maaa, konon say kids big liau wanna spend more time with them laugh.gif
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM

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because of this that the company will come out with ridiculous rules such as

- probation 6 month
- 3 month resign notice
- under probation 1 month resign notice
- senior lvl resign 6 month notice or until replacement is found
- bla bla bla
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM)
yameh? hmmmm.. but i didnt mention company name also... everywhere every company sure got director resign ma... how come u guys can guess accurately the company name..
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200+ employees leaving. Must be big company lah.

Who is in the news recently? Only one big company.

I not in the property industry also picked up on that.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM

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Hehe, but can share what is the new company? I not RM20k. tongue.gif

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her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company


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post Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(gnuix @ Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM)
you mentioned big property group in malaysia. not many big in malaysia. imagine yeoh family leave ytl. LOL
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ohh.. /k/tards quite smart... if i know u guys will guess correctly.. i would've just say the kompeni name terus

QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM)
takde kesetiaan langsung mia worker
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quite setia.. in fact the big bos never invite them.. they all approach the big bos..
for my sis-in-law she interview another developer liao (cannot tell name) and is midst of finalising the offer. so she not that setia staff. hahaha.

QUOTE(Yam Seng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM)
Hehe, but can share what is the new company? I not RM20k. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM)
because of this that the company will come out with ridiculous rules such as

- probation 6 month
- 3 month resign notice
- under probation 1 month resign notice
- senior lvl resign 6 month notice or until replacement is found
- bla bla bla
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berdasarkan pengalaman ke brows.gif
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:37 AM

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post Jan 22 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(afie98120 @ Jan 22 2014, 11:37 AM)
berdasarkan pengalaman ke  brows.gif
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new ceo in deet ship?

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can join? i am looking for rm20k salary job.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM)
because of this that the company will come out with ridiculous rules such as

- probation 6 month
- 3 month resign notice
- under probation 1 month resign notice
- senior lvl resign 6 month notice or until replacement is found
- bla bla bla
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not valid in this case. apparently a lot managers get to 'offset' their notice period and leave early.. most of the topshots did not serve their notice in full.. and because HR bosses also leaving.. they couldnt care less.. and since they all sama-gang... so.. apa pon boleh lah.. hahaha
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:41 AM

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so suddenly jr become mgmt level in sps
ahahhahaha
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:42 AM

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Why all lari? PNB no good? They are rich no? Or there is another agenda?
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dah lama orang tau SP Setia punya director mau belah.
dia sniri pun dah cakap
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SP Setia...?
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200 ni semua besar punya potato la?

atau kici mia potato pun ikut?
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:43 AM

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sp tak setia
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the market is flooding with ppl looking for jobs, no worry.

thx to the ex-director, now 200+ ppl has new opportunity.

ps: loyalty to boss, lol
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Ada 200 meh serious?

I heard only small group of pipulz onli wor
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM

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After Liew leaves, all Setia will him follow him.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM

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i tot chinaman boss means very kiamsiap, like to make workers OT then no give bonus?

work for GLC can ular a lot, claim simply simply whatever, lots replacement holidays, go team building stay nice nice
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so now my chances of getting in higher? So many attempts previously all failed la haihs... or should i join the new company ? hmmm
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM

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whats the reason of the mass resignation?
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:41 AM)
not valid in this case. apparently a lot managers get to 'offset' their notice period and leave early.. most of the topshots did not serve their notice in full.. and because HR bosses also leaving.. they couldnt care less.. and since they all sama-gang... so.. apa pon boleh lah.. hahaha
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thats because it wasnt implemented yet

so the company took the hit now

will start implementing stupid rules from now


cannot bring over leaves to next year
cannot offset leaves with resign notice period
leaves wont be converted into cash
bla bla bla

maybe next time the top shots need to sign agreement or some sort

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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good now can apply for SP tongue.gif Alot vacancy LMAO
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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SP Setia boss leaving the company is big news.
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Why all lari? PNB no good? They are rich no? Or there is another agenda?
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bcos the sentiments towards the outsider is bad. the kompeni is like a big family.. they always got a lot activities and events. and the big bos is down to earth and always go staff cubicle make fren with them. they love the bos. so when bos leave to new kompeni, the new kompeni aso a lot vacancy.. all 1 by 1 talk to the bos, the bos is good heart say "okla.. come join me" and gave them the HR contact of new kompeni.

and also SP setia staff is regarded highly by competitors. my sis got a huge increment offer package from competitor asking her to jump ship. because of this incident competitors are 'spanar-ing' staff the vulnerable kompeni liao
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Confirm SP Setia la, it's stapled all around the media
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM)
i tot chinaman boss means very kiamsiap, like to make workers OT then no give bonus?

work for GLC can ular a lot, claim simply simply whatever, lots replacement holidays, go team building stay nice nice
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how is gaji GLC? unsure.gif
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Most of the 200+ people who leave are the underperformers so when SPS hire new blood hope no more new dead woods.
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 06:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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Heard that setia was taken over by certain somone.
Thats y the boss resign started another company.

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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They say Liew is a very good CEO, he made SP Setia into one of the best company in their line. Without him, SP Setia won't be where it is nowadays.
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i have feeling after liew gone.. sp(not-so)setia will end up like another Renong
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hahaha, 200 resign but not confirm Big boss can hire them all.

later only can bring in few people only.

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
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itu saja my story
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Not really interested in your story.
just wanna know who took over the company.
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Always remember a company is like a machine. All employees are mere bolts and nuts. No employee is bigger than a company. Even with the so called back bone senior leaving the company, it may just slow down a while and when they managed to get replacement, the company will be back to business as usual.

To ever think that someone resign to punish the company is rather stoopid but this is what mostly butthurt resigning employees think.
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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ecoworld already full of senior mgt lor... if hire 200+ no big bonus
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Wonder PNB knew this could happen 10 months ago when they launched their hostile takeover.
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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Jan 22 2014, 11:43 AM)
200 ni semua besar punya potato la?

atau kici mia potato pun ikut?
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these 200 (first batch) are the old-timers which the big bos agreed to let them join the new company.. because he know these ppl are the core foundation and the reason for company success... apparently there are 100 more ppl plan to resign, but these ppl some will join competitor, some will apply to new company also.

QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jan 22 2014, 11:43 AM)
Ada 200 meh serious?

I heard only small group of pipulz onli wor
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confirm more than 200 ppl.. these were founding ppl/early batch of team who make this company so suksesful

QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM)
so now my chances of getting in higher? So many attempts previously all failed la haihs... or should i join the new company ? hmmm
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up to u la.. hahaha.. all the best

QUOTE(Chigme @ Jan 22 2014, 11:46 AM)
Most of the 200+ people who leave are the underperformers so when SPS hire new blood  hope no more new  dead woods.
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if underperformer, do u think the big bos will bring them over to new company? more like those who were denied entry into the new company has no choice but to stay in the current company
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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SP setia? lol
cause recently obtain by other company.

The Owner is the core of SP Setia
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up to u la.. hahaha.. all the best
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ Jan 22 2014, 11:49 AM)
Always remember a company is like a machine. All employees are mere bolts and nuts. No employee is bigger than a company. Even with the so called back bone senior leaving the company, it may just slow down a while and when they managed to get replacement, the company will be back to business as usual.

To ever think that someone resign to punish the company is rather stoopid but this is what mostly butthurt resigning employees think.
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in short, "no one" is irreplacable in a company.
the worst case is hindering in daily business, but that is not deadly issue, unless the company no longer has the capabilities ($) to hire "proper" manpower.
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they can take over the physical assets of any company, but human asset... which is the most valuable.

stay any longer after taking over? unless u want kangkung for bonuses tongue.gif
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Based on Michael Porter theory, Liew leaving will have little impact to the company.

Cos SP Setia is dealing with Land which is something that cannot be manufactured. Current Land Banks of SP Setia are still solid, can last many more years, some say perhaps up to 10 years.

So long as the QC and design is not totally cacat, they will still attract buyers.

Do u care if Liew was the CEO or someone from PNB when u buy your property from SP next time?

Its not like a Restaurant, Chef leaves and so will customers.


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What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:53 AM)
they can take over the physical assets of any company, but human asset... which is the most valuable.

stay any longer after taking over? unless u want kangkung for bonuses tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 22 2014, 12:53 PM)
in short, "no one" is irreplacable in a company.
the worst case is hindering in daily business, but that is not deadly issue, unless the company no longer has the capabilities ($) to hire "proper" manpower.
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Yup, no one is irreplaceable.
Last time I resigned I also foolishly thought....die la u all this time......hehehehe
Then the com hired 2 new employees to take up my tasks like a boss.... I kanasai... cool2.gif
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PNB ppl are farking assholes...Liew made a good move. His staff's allegiance to him is epic thumbup.gif
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y setia boss quit?

too much restriction from ahem?
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QUOTE(toekong @ Jan 22 2014, 11:47 AM)
Heard that setia was taken over by certain somone.
Thats y the boss resign started another company.
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The story I heard is he is joining eco world which is managed by his son.
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Now the company staffs........

not so setia are they?
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SP Setia is known to be quite generous to its employees. Maybe the new owners decided to change that.
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Wonder PNB knew this could happen 10 months ago when they launched their hostile takeover.
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I guess they knew..there were some talk on retaining the management team after the take over..and so on.

Then the news of early exit for Liew came up..and jeng jeng jeng...

Anyway Liew made a killing selling his stake in SPS, hence hiring 200 staff would be easy peasy. I am sure the 200 staff have received offers aledi before anything.

However, I am more curious why PNB didn't have a non competition clause in the takeover Agreement with Liew so to avoid this issue of Liew starting a new competitor?

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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 21 2014, 03:53 PM)
in short, "no one" is irreplacable in a company.
the worst case is hindering in daily business, but that is not deadly issue, unless the company no longer has the capabilities ($) to hire "proper" manpower.
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of coz everyone is replaceable.
just that afterward it is not the same engine anymore.
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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seriously wat bother me is.... despite the land banks he still sell off the co., meaning to say he is converting "property" into cash, and then start small (relatively).

maybe he foresees bubbles?? sigh...
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Sure, no one is irreplaceable.

Like Alex Ferguson. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ Jan 22 2014, 11:49 AM)
Always remember a company is like a machine. All employees are mere bolts and nuts. No employee is bigger than a company. Even with the so called back bone senior leaving the company, it may just slow down a while and when they managed to get replacement, the company will be back to business as usual.

To ever think that someone resign to punish the company is rather stoopid but this is what mostly butthurt resigning employees think.
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But people are not nuts and bolts, they aren't mass produced with equal qualities. If the current batch who are leaving are best of their field, then can SP Setia find someone who can replace their shoes?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 22 2014, 11:49 AM)
Not really interested in your story.
just wanna know who took over the company.
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hint: PNB is the current majority stakeholder

First Roberk Kuok, now Liew.

Gone la Malaysia...aih
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:59 AM)
seriously wat bother me is.... despite the land banks he still sell off the co., meaning to say he is converting "property" into cash, and then start small (relatively).

maybe he foresees bubbles?? sigh...
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Ahem..there are numerous khabar angin as to why he sold..one of it is was...ahem "compulsory" acquisition by PNB. Dont ask me for sos ..sebab i got no sos..guna imaginasi
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jan 22 2014, 12:01 PM)
Sure, no one is irreplaceable. 

Like Alex Ferguson.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 11:56 AM)
I guess they knew..there were some talk on retaining the management team after the take over..and so on.

Then the news of early exit for Liew came up..and jeng jeng jeng...

Anyway Liew made a killing selling his stake in SPS, hence hiring 200 staff would be easy peasy. I am sure the 200 staff have received offers aledi before anything.

However, I am more curious why PNB didn't have a non competition clause in the takeover Agreement with Liew so to avoid this issue of Liew starting a new competitor?
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Coz it will amount to restraint of trade, u cannot stop another human from using his skills and expertise sumwhere else to make money for himself. PNB gone nuts la, why the hostile takeover? plus the chairman is also ex-CJ , i think there is alot of govt interference in the running of the company, that pisses him off as hes losing the control of the ship. But now the CFO also leaving ( hes expected to bcome the new CEO), i think SP Setia going down the road of maybank and rhb, without key personel. Property sector so uncertain now, SP setia in deep shit la. good time to buy its priced down shares now
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:59 AM)
seriously wat bother me is.... despite the land banks he still sell off the co., meaning to say he is converting "property" into cash, and then start small (relatively).

maybe he foresees bubbles?? sigh...
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govt force takeover like previous maybank, (gardenia I believe)
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I don't think he was forced out, he just want out when PNB increased their stake in SP Setia. PNB tried to retain him with favorable conditions ("we own the company but you run it") but that's never going to be enough.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 22 2014, 11:50 AM)
Wonder PNB knew this could happen 10 months ago when they launched their hostile takeover.
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unless they only look to realise the assets and not really caring whther the company survives.

scoop out the land banks, empty the shell.
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 22 2014, 12:01 PM)
But people are not nuts and bolts, they aren't mass produced with equal qualities. If the current batch who are leaving are best of their field, then can SP Setia find someone who can replace their shoes?
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is knee jerk reaction lah, now memang syiok lah like flash mob,
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later the new owner will parachute in all the management staffs in from other GLC, change the contractor, change the........., donno their development still good or not in long term

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if u think these spsetia staffs wanna punish pnb by resigning en-masse ...
what about the gov not approving ecoworld's project or simply delay2 their projects to punish them back ?
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Maybe it is something good for SPSetia as well, hire new blood, cheaper work force.... those remains in SP gets immediate promotion.... etc etc..
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Setia bye2 bcoz some colony ppl step in want sapu the ppl profit..they tot buy the share ppl stay mana tau ppl strong with old boss..quit..
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if u think these spsetia staffs wanna punish pnb by resigning en-masse ...
what about the gov not approving ecoworld's project or simply delay2 their projects to punish them back ?
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msia will have ala enron bailout again laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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can guess ma.. biggrin.gif say developer sure can guess.

so all the juniors become big shot managers now la.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Jan 22 2014, 12:03 PM)
Coz it will amount to restraint of trade, u cannot stop another human from using his skills and expertise sumwhere else to make money for himself. PNB gone nuts la, why the hostile takeover? plus the chairman is also ex-CJ , i think there is alot of govt interference in the running of the company, that pisses him off as hes losing the control of the ship. But now the CFO also leaving ( hes expected to bcome the new CEO), i think SP Setia going down the road of maybank and rhb, without key personel. Property sector so uncertain now, SP setia in deep shit la. good time to buy its priced down shares now
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Its not restrain in trade la... if it is properly drafted. If there is a time frame and similar industry restriction and also limited locality, it is enforceable subject to reasonableness. Its a standard clause to tie up many start up company founders in VC /Angel Investing agreement. Also, its quite common for Shareholder Agreement to be worded as such.

Zaki's appointment I don't think was up to Liew. I don't know how much interference was there but the writing was on the wall then PNB took over. What is inevitable now is the UEM merger with SP to create the largest construction co in Malaysia.

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Lets take a grain of salt of TS's second hand story. Maybe it's exaggerated. Maybe it's not 200. Maybe it's the older employees who started together with the founders and are taking the time to retire anyway.
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walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 22 2014, 12:13 PM)
Lets take a grain of salt of TS's second hand story. Maybe it's exaggerated. Maybe it's not 200. Maybe it's the older employees who started together with the founders and are taking the time to retire anyway.
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True. All I can say is that the employees made a killing out of each project from their allotted properties. All of SP projects were very very successful and many employees made tonnes of $$$ from flipping.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 12:09 PM)
Its not restrain in trade la... if it is properly drafted. If there is a time frame and similar industry restriction and also limited locality, it is enforceable subject to reasonableness. Its a standard clause to tie up many start up company founders in VC /Angel Investing agreement. Also, its quite common for Shareholder Agreement to be worded as such.

Zaki's appointment I don't think was up to Liew. I don't know how much interference was there but the writing was on the wall then PNB took over. What is inevitable now is the UEM merger with SP to create the largest construction co in Malaysia.
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thanks for enlighten me! long tym didnt open my books dy, reallly there are exceptions to it
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I read somewhere SP Setia is one of the best company to work with in Malaysia. The benefits is quite awesome.
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thanks for enlighten me! long tym didnt open my books dy, reallly there are exceptions to it
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM)
i tot chinaman boss means very kiamsiap, like to make workers OT then no give bonus?

work for GLC can ular a lot, claim simply simply whatever, lots replacement holidays, go team building stay nice nice
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just something to ponder about

the founders of SP Setia was one the royal family of selangor, now talam corp boss. Liews appointment to his post is shrouded in secrecy, for he waas a banker before then a very small time developer and suddenly for no apparent reason CEO of SP Setia

while i would say that liew genuinely contributed a lot and the whole PNB thing was kinda meh. i think it was overhyped

i would say that things are not all they seem for SP
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of coz not, otherwise i wouldn't say 'i tot'

how the working culture?
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 01:21 PM)
just something to ponder about

the founders of SP Setia was one the royal family of selangor, now talam corp boss. Liews appointment to his post is shrouded in secrecy, for he waas a banker before then a very small time developer and suddenly for no apparent reason CEO of SP Setia

while i would  say that liew genuinely contributed a lot and the whole PNB thing was kinda meh.  i think it was overhyped

i would say that things are not all they seem for SP
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U meant before SP Setia gotten this big, there is some sort of "dealing with the devil" going on ?

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they quit because they cant songlap and goyang kaki anymore under the new boss. brows.gif
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Confirm SP Setia.
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U meant before SP Setia gotten this big, there is some sort of "dealing with the devil" going on ?
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
It's all over the news that big boss quit. So, he confirm starting new company.  biggrin.gif
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he already started a NEW company... under his son names few years back
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Read also know sp setia which the xxx race try take over

Btw the director form new company call eco town/world/tak tahu right?
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I read somewhere SP Setia is one of the best company to work with in Malaysia. The benefits is quite awesome.
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jan 22 2014, 12:22 PM)
U meant before SP Setia gotten this big, there is some sort of "dealing with the devil" going on ?
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An infrastructure without pillars is a crumbling one. But then should have seen this coming, not like this is a mutual deal.

I think saw somewhere from last year interview he did mentioned "losing the battle" and will be retiring soon, but wishes to remain until all the projects launch under his care are fulfilled before he stepped down.

Must felt good seeing the loyalty of his staff if this is true flex.gif
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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Jan 22 2014, 12:24 PM)
he already started a NEW company... under his son names few years back
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If you buy FOCAL shares 3 months ago on the news,you would have double your money
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jan 22 2014, 12:22 PM)
U meant before SP Setia gotten this big, there is some sort of "dealing with the devil" going on ?
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The S P Setia story
http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/property/23...etia-story.html
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Why all guessing here, it's all over the news. You can read about it on today Star Biz at page 2.

Over there also got mention he joining Eco World. and alot of staff has already resigned
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of coz not, otherwise i wouldn't say 'i tot'

how the working culture?
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As an employer, S P Setia prides itself as a nurturing organisation, providing career development as well as compelling benefits for staff.


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Setia Learning Academy was launched by Liew on Nov 6, 2009 to ensure continuous learning for staff


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“‘Pay-For-Performance’ is the foundation of our total reward philosophy


There you have it, You perform then you get paid well and you got to continuous learning strategy. Giving employee a sense that its not a dead end job. no wonder everyone is drooling to join them
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big boss of a big developer company in malaysia .

who else but sp setia, especially the company was bought over recently, so the fella butthurt.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 11:54 AM)
Based on Michael Porter theory, Liew leaving will have little impact to the company.

Cos SP Setia is dealing with Land which is something that cannot be manufactured. Current Land Banks of SP Setia are still solid, can last many more years, some say perhaps up to 10 years.

So long as the QC and design is not totally cacat, they will still attract buyers.

Do u care if Liew was the CEO or someone from PNB when u buy your property from SP next time?

Its not like a Restaurant, Chef leaves and so will customers.
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QC and design in paper everyone can do.

It is the methology and execution matter to give what customer want.

Outside may look very easy but ask yourself by just doing simple wiring, can you do the correct and safe wiring??
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I know some managers and staffs in SP Setia, use to play badminton with them.

They are very glad with their company, good benefits & etc.

i think they have a sense of 'patriotism' with CEO liew
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jan 22 2014, 12:22 PM)
U meant before SP Setia gotten this big, there is some sort of "dealing with the devil" going on ?
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i suspect,

i mean SP Setia got big in a very short period, in a market full of very dominant developers like Sime, YTL, See Hoy Chan, Alan Tong's Kiara Properties. in the developer market, theres a lot of dirty stuff, its known to be one of the dirtiest industries in malaysia for a reason.

suddenly a wild SP Setia appears, with royal family history, a sudden CEO in liew who was never heard of and had only 1 successful project prior to SP Setia. becomes one of the biggest developer in malaysia?

dont sound fishy to you?



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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
It's all over the news that big boss quit. So, he confirm starting new companybiggrin.gif
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more like joining son's company.

ecoworld....

jln Ipoh got a big project from them, can also see billboards and banners everywhere there.

yeah, this is big news, tan sri lim (the big boss mentioned) actually planned to quit in march 2014 but brought forward the plans.

sp setia stocks down, ecoworld stocks up.

maybe now we will get a chance to buy some sp setia homes at slightly cheaper prices?

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM)
i suspect,

i mean SP Setia got big in a very short period, in a market full of very dominant developers like Sime, YTL, See Hoy Chan, Alan Tong's Kiara Properties. in the developer market,  theres a lot of dirty stuff, its known to be one of the dirtiest industries in malaysia for a reason.

suddenly a wild SP Setia appears, with royal family history, a sudden CEO in liew who was never heard of and had only 1 successful project prior to SP Setia. becomes one of the biggest developer in malaysia?

dont sound fishy to you?
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I thought their success is taking the risk to develop puchong?
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he already started a NEW company... under his son names few years back
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM)
i suspect,

i mean SP Setia got big in a very short period, in a market full of very dominant developers like Sime, YTL, See Hoy Chan, Alan Tong's Kiara Properties. in the developer market,  theres a lot of dirty stuff, its known to be one of the dirtiest industries in malaysia for a reason.

suddenly a wild SP Setia appears, with royal family history, a sudden CEO in liew who was never heard of and had only 1 successful project prior to SP Setia. becomes one of the biggest developer in malaysia?

dont sound fishy to you?
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sure. he is a banker with big connection to those big shot

so, the best part is as long as got big cable. u r going to be rich
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the new company is Eco World ? If me, i follow the ceo.
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Hahahha SP Setia eaten by some croni now good la they kena liao, get the shell never get the soul
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one of my kawan work in sp setia.. already own 2 property under sp setia.. weekend work to earn their ot.. bonus few months i think > 3 months. Bright future work with SP
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jan 22 2014, 12:34 PM)
I thought their success is taking the risk to develop puchong?
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QUOTE(noien @ Jan 22 2014, 12:35 PM)
what is the name?
sure. he is a banker with big connection to those big shot

so, the best part is as long as got big cable. u r going to be rich
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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Jan 22 2014, 12:41 PM)
Hahahha SP Setia eaten by some croni now good la they kena liao, get the shell never get the soul
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Which croni bought SP Setia? hmm.gif
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Lets take a grain of salt of TS's second hand story. Maybe it's exaggerated. Maybe it's not 200. Maybe it's the older employees who started together with the founders and are taking the time to retire anyway.
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QUOTE(roger roger @ Jan 22 2014, 09:33 AM)
At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut.
Tan Sri Liew, The MAN
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QUOTE(TianJian @ Jan 22 2014, 12:21 PM)
i guess TS still in cave ! SP setia right now is the big news that CEO resign and alot ppl resign 2gather with the CEO , and is the only news right now , TS ! go out have a walk , see the thing call " Sun "
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SP Setia's Liew? biggrin.gif
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Which croni bought SP Setia? hmm.gif
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forgot the exact name, someting like khazanah or something else want to buy over, u can see around replies, got say big mama want also
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM)
i suspect,

i mean SP Setia got big in a very short period, in a market full of very dominant developers like Sime, YTL, See Hoy Chan, Alan Tong's Kiara Properties. in the developer market,  theres a lot of dirty stuff, its known to be one of the dirtiest industries in malaysia for a reason.

suddenly a wild SP Setia appears, with royal family history, a sudden CEO in liew who was never heard of and had only 1 successful project prior to SP Setia. becomes one of the biggest developer in malaysia?

dont sound fishy to you?
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Not every success is attributed to crony-ism. And with such a big company sure you have these deals, but its not the lifeblood of SP.

I would say what separates SP from the rest when they are big is good leadership, management and a cohesive workforce.

When they are small, what makes them difference is the way they are able to market their project, and also their ability to secure financing when confidence is low. Those are skills not all incoming CEO is able to replaced.
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Anyways TS sis in law how?
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how to apply for sp setia?

maybe can fill in their shoe
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ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 22 2014, 12:47 PM)
Not every success is attributed to crony-ism. And with such a big company sure you have these deals, but its not the lifeblood of SP.

I would say what separates SP from the rest when they are big is good leadership, management and a cohesive workforce.

When they are small, what makes them difference is the way they are able to market their project, and also their ability to secure financing when confidence is low. Those are skills not all incoming CEO is able to replaced.
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its true, every big company has crony-ism, but depends how well it was run to get sukses...

without connection, nobody can make it this big in malaysia...


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Sure no problem..you are in legal as well?
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will SP Setia still be a good firm to work in? I was planning to get a job there.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM)
i suspect,

i mean SP Setia got big in a very short period, in a market full of very dominant developers like Sime, YTL, See Hoy Chan, Alan Tong's Kiara Properties. in the developer market,  theres a lot of dirty stuff, its known to be one of the dirtiest industries in malaysia for a reason.

suddenly a wild SP Setia appears, with royal family history, a sudden CEO in liew who was never heard of and had only 1 successful project prior to SP Setia. becomes one of the biggest developer in malaysia?

dont sound fishy to you?
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there was a focus malaysia article on this a few months back mentioning this, when there were rumours about him leaving.
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will SP Setia still be a good firm to work in? I was planning to get a job there.
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imagine ur manager is only 1-2 yrs senior from u.. and oni work in the company for 1yr.. what u think
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forgot the exact name, someting like khazanah or something else want to buy over, u can see around replies, got say big mama want also
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jan 22 2014, 12:34 PM)
I thought their success is taking the risk to develop puchong?
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the time line is a question

liew quit the bank in 1990, he joined SP Setia in 1996, pusat bandar puchong was founded in 1994. when he joined SP, it had a market cap of 800mil

now think of it, this guy in 6 years, went from a failed banker to the CEO of a company with 800mil market cap.

its like someone dropping a RM2mil lottery on your lap


QUOTE(noien @ Jan 22 2014, 12:35 PM)

sure. he is a banker with big connection to those big shot

so, the best part is as long as got big cable. u r going to be rich
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not all bankers get that connection also
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what if the big boss start new company..but never hire those 200+ people?
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 22 2014, 12:47 PM)
Not every success is attributed to crony-ism.
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How long have you worked in construction industry, my dad has retired after 35 years and I trust him when he says that without cable you can't get big project in this country.
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imagine ur manager is only 1-2 yrs senior from u.. and oni work in the company for 1yr.. what u think
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yea hahah.. cannot afford to buy these expensive counter.. so never read properly..
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Its Malaysia sovereign wealth fund AKA piggy bank of GOM
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jan 22 2014, 12:51 PM)
there was a focus malaysia article on this a few months back mentioning this, when there were rumours about him leaving.
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it was that time i picked it up coz i was curious.

i was reading about the history and went like "wait........that doesnt seem right" how did liew went from this to that in 6 years?

i did more reseach, found out SP Setia history and got even more confused
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jan 22 2014, 12:55 PM)
How long have you worked in construction industry, my dad has retired after 35 years and I trust him when he says that without cable you can't get big project in this country.
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i think true also ... coz construction involved land, and land involved gov, and there's only 1 party that rule the gov for 50 years ... u tell me no corruption or cronyism I also hard to belip.
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sale over 5mil.

rm20k + 20k commission monthly also can get it. laugh.gif
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hello abng, you cant BUY PNB

Its Malaysia sovereign wealth fund AKA  piggy bank of GOM
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 22 2014, 12:30 PM)
QC and design in paper everyone can do.

It is the methology and execution matter  to give what customer want.

Outside may look very easy but ask yourself by just doing simple wiring, can you do the correct and safe wiring??
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM)
i suspect,

i mean SP Setia got big in a very short period, in a market full of very dominant developers like Sime, YTL, See Hoy Chan, Alan Tong's Kiara Properties. in the developer market,  theres a lot of dirty stuff, its known to be one of the dirtiest industries in malaysia for a reason.

suddenly a wild SP Setia appears, with royal family history, a sudden CEO in liew who was never heard of and had only 1 successful project prior to SP Setia. becomes one of the biggest developer in malaysia?

dont sound fishy to you?
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Ya. U heard they black mail everyone to buy their properties? Meh. Defamatory statement. How dare u.
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QUOTE(satan6666 @ Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM)
whats the reason of the mass resignation?
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dah big BONUS, why kuli-kuli for 2014 ?

and EcoW is new opis, new salary package, new face hmm.gif
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QUOTE(niwde @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
Now the company staffs........

not so setia are they?
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it was that time i picked it up coz i was curious.

i was reading about the history and went like "wait........that doesnt seem right" how did liew went from this to that in 6 years?

i did more reseach, found out SP Setia history and got even more confused
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SP Setia was relatively a mid-sized developer in Puchong.

Some years ago, they bough a huge piece of Oil Palm Land on the way to Klang from See Hoy Chan.

At that point in time, some people said

1) See Hoy Chan made good profits from selling the Land to SP

2) SP sees something that See Hoy Chan did not

This project was the turning point of SP Setia.

Point to note - Never Sell <Land / Products> to your competitor.

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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ Jan 22 2014, 11:49 AM)
Always remember a company is like a machine. All employees are mere bolts and nuts. No employee is bigger than a company. Even with the so called back bone senior leaving the company, it may just slow down a while and when they managed to get replacement, the company will be back to business as usual.

To ever think that someone resign to punish the company is rather stoopid but this is what mostly butthurt resigning employees think.
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PNB bought heavily into SP Setia, and this is how they troll back the gomen. Back up plan in place in the form of Eco World brows.gif

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How long have you worked in construction industry, my dad has retired after 35 years and I trust him when he says that without cable you can't get big project in this country.
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I'm not in the industry. So yeah im naive in this.

I think I express my point wrongly. I mean SP success is not like "eh son, i got this big ass land bank, nah take it and do something with it".

It's more like Liew & Friends, work hard to market and sell SP, attracting people with deep connection. Not like the cable is a birth right to him. If it is he would be sitting at a directorship at age 30 and not working for a bank and subsequently a failed developer.
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will SP Setia still be a good firm to work in? I was planning to get a job there.
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imagine ur manager is only 1-2 yrs senior from u.. and oni work in the company for 1yr.. what u think
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

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SP setia is the last major developer not under Bumi controlled yet.
Hope all canais staff resign, give more opportunity to Bumi, there are plenty of skilled bumi in property and construction

Every stage of construction required aprroved from Bumi
Failure or successs of developers dependant of Bumi kepala angin
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:03 PM)
SP Setia was relatively a mid-sized developer in Puchong.

Some years ago, they bough a huge piece of Oil Palm Land on the way to Klang from See Hoy Chan.

At that point in time, some people said

1) See Hoy Chan made good profits from selling the Land to SP

2) SP sees something that See Hoy Chan did not

This project was the turning point of SP Setia.

Point to note - Never Sell <Land / Products> to your competitor.
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if kena "tekan" bola how ???

mati-mati also need to sell lar.
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if kena "tekan" bola how ???

mati-mati also need to sell lar.
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but See Hoy Chan is a cash rich company. They do Build Then Sell for their 1U projects. Hardly in need of urgent cash. Bet they are regretting their decision.
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Jan 22 2014, 01:07 PM)
SP setia is the last major developer not under Bumi controlled yet.
Hope all canais staff resign, give more opportunity to Bumi, there are plenty of skilled bumi in property and construction

Every stage of construction required aprroved from Bumi
Failure or successs of developers dependant of Bumi kepala angin
aproved or no aprroval is rights decided by various bumi agencies
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Ya.

No wonder terengganu stadium so many times.....

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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hahhahaha..i also shock liao when news came-out at tv3 regarding the resignation 3 of most influences people at the company..included tan sri lee lam thye.fuuuuu


btw for me in a common thing for developer or contractor to have mass staff tendering after their boss doing that.. brows.gif

i also have experience in that when they start to restructured the management, making us at bottom hard to deliver our job..lol
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It's call SP Setia correct lah, all the original staff setia following old boss.

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What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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Its already expected la.

This perbadanan Nasional think they can buy success from other people like what RHB did with UMBC, Bank Bumi did with Southern Bank ah? You need to earn it one.

And its obvious la even though Setia is a multi racial co, Perbadanan will flood Setia with the majority pipu (u know who la)...

Last time when Boustead bought over BP's petrol station biz and turn it into BHP, they promote all their own people, leaving existing personnel cause massive exodus..

All the Setia must be going to Ecovest.
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 22 2014, 01:05 PM)
I'm not in the industry. So yeah im naive in this.

I think I express my point wrongly. I mean SP success is not like "eh son, i got this big ass land bank, nah take it and do something with it".

It's more like Liew & Friends, work hard to market and sell SP, attracting people with deep connection. Not like the cable is a birth right to him. If it is he would be sitting at a directorship at age 30 and not working for a bank and subsequently a failed developer.
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PNB got big land bank also so what? They don't know how to utilize them anyway.
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isn't the wiring word done by Indon / Bangla these days?
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It is actually quite true SP Setia is the last few major developer not under bumi/gov control.If you go check even IGB/IJM which are major developers also under them already.

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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:59 AM)
seriously wat bother me is.... despite the land banks he still sell off the co., meaning to say he is converting "property" into cash, and then start small (relatively).

maybe he foresees bubbles?? sigh...
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If your mindset set to bangla or indon, U will never know what is quality.
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Its not my mindset but the general perception that the construction industry is heavily reliant on foreign (cheaper) labour. Granted some more technical areas requires people with higher skills.

Perhaps SP Setia employs qualified 'Wire Men' to do the wiring. But this is hardly a competitive advantage. In Property, key success factor is Land Bank. Unless PNB screwes up BIG TIME, Setia Walk, Setia Eco Park will continue to draw buyers in the future.

You cannot make Land. Granted Liew will have connections to get Land but will the location be as good? Granted he had foresight to buy the Land from See Hoy Chan back then but to replicate such success again will not be so easy.


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bik mama join meaning SP setia will grow even stronger with bijan's support, not? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:33 PM)
Its already expected la.

This perbadanan Nasional think they can buy success from other people like what RHB did with UMBC, Bank Bumi did with Southern Bank ah? You need to earn it one.

And its obvious la even though Setia is a multi racial co, Perbadanan will flood Setia with the majority pipu (u know who la)...

Last time when Boustead bought over BP's petrol station biz and turn it into BHP, they promote all their own people, leaving existing personnel cause massive exodus..

All the Setia must be going to Ecovest.
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I think its a rather vague statement there with racial connotations. Bank Bumi (CIMB) today is a success..and same like Maybank (Founder is a Chinese). It all boils down how the co will be managed. If they take the UEM + Sunrise route = all aint too well...

By the way..ekovest is different co bro..rumour is that Liew is heading to Eco World.

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My gf worked there, got pulled over by Tan Sri to the new company. 8 month bonus yo.

Anyway, they have moved back to share office with SP Setia in Setia Tropika, Johor.

They are still pretty much under the same leadership, but the transition is not suddenly 200 ppl move together la.
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walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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Wouldnt SP Setia now be even better if PNB already take control? Then they will get more projects and approval also will be instant?

All main station of public transport (MRT/LRT/BUS) will also be station according to them, no?
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:43 PM)
Its not my mindset but the general perception that the construction industry is heavily reliant on foreign (cheaper) labour.  Granted some more technical areas requires people with higher skills.

Perhaps SP Setia employs qualified 'Wire Men' to do the wiring.  But this is hardly a competitive advantage.  In Property, key success factor is Land Bank.  Unless PNB screwes up BIG TIME, Setia Walk, Setia Eco Park will continue to draw buyers in the future.

You cannot make Land.  Granted Liew will have connections to get Land but will the location be as good?  Granted he had foresight to buy the Land from See Hoy Chan back then but to replicate such success again will not be so easy.
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There is this Mid Valley project which GDv is huge. Setia Alam is nearly fully developed and so is Setia Walk.

Liew is a smart person. The See Hoy Chan deal was a steal if we look at it now but initially everyone said it was a bad decision. Remember phase 1 of SA had settlement issues where many houses had cracks. Liew foresight was instrumental in getting SA back in track then. He managed to problem well..and now as we know it SA is a big success.

IMHO, itst he vision and planning of SA which made it as it is today and that can only be credited to Liew and his team. Well thought out Master Plan.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:03 PM)
SP Setia was relatively a mid-sized developer in Puchong.

Some years ago, they bough a huge piece of Oil Palm Land on the way to Klang from See Hoy Chan.

At that point in time, some people said

1) See Hoy Chan made good profits from selling the Land to SP

2) SP sees something that See Hoy Chan did not

This project was the turning point of SP Setia.

Point to note - Never Sell <Land / Products> to your competitor.
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i was not arguing on Liews foresight

in general what im saying is this, what happen to Liew in 90-96 is akin to any /k/tard with some experience walking into top glove and asking "eh bro u got CEO job ar" and get it.

if you ask me that doesnt sound entirely right
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:43 PM)
Its not my mindset but the general perception that the construction industry is heavily reliant on foreign (cheaper) labour.  Granted some more technical areas requires people with higher skills.

Perhaps SP Setia employs qualified 'Wire Men' to do the wiring.  But this is hardly a competitive advantage.  In Property, key success factor is Land Bank.  Unless PNB screwes up BIG TIME, Setia Walk, Setia Eco Park will continue to draw buyers in the future.

You cannot make Land.  Granted Liew will have connections to get Land but will the location be as good?  Granted he had foresight to buy the Land from See Hoy Chan back then but to replicate such success again will not be so easy.
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That is true, if you are an investor SP is pretty beat up now but they still got good assets under them, even stripped bare should still fetch quite a significant value. But not advisable to grow old with them laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM)
There is this Mid Valley project which GDv is huge. Setia Alam is nearly fully developed and so is Setia Walk.

Liew is a smart person. The See Hoy Chan deal was a steal if we look at it now but initially everyone said it was a bad decision. Remember phase 1 of SA had settlement issues where many houses had cracks. Liew foresight was instrumental in getting SA back in track then. He managed to problem well..and now as we know it SA is a big success.

IMHO, itst he vision and planning of SA which made it as it is today and that can only be credited to Liew and his team. Well thought out Master Plan.
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Yep, he has a Grand Vision for Setia Alam and Setia Eco Park, Thought there should still be land enough to develop for > 5 years.

QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM)
i was not arguing on Liews foresight

in general what im saying is this, what happen to Liew in 90-96 is akin to any /k/tard with some experience walking into top glove and asking "eh bro u got CEO job ar" and get it.

if you ask me that doesnt sound entirely right
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I thought Liew inherited the Company from his dad. SP Setia developed Pusat Bandar Puchong and build their good track record from there. Of course, Setia Alam / Setia Eco Park was their turning point.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM)
i was not arguing on Liews foresight

in general what im saying is this, what happen to Liew in 90-96 is akin to any /k/tard with some experience walking into top glove and asking "eh bro u got CEO job ar" and get it.

if you ask me that doesnt sound entirely right
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Ah..that ah...I know the background. All I can say his experience as a banker made him a very shrewd person. When he bought and merged the 2 companies to become SP today...masterstroke..
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 01:44 PM)
I think its a rather vague statement there with racial connotations. Bank Bumi (CIMB) today is a success..and same like Maybank (Founder is a Chinese). It all boils down how the co will be managed. If they take the UEM + Sunrise route = all aint too well...

By the way..ekovest is different co bro..rumour is that Liew is heading to Eco World.
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not a rumors but confirmed already

this still a hot news.it just yesterday.good reading as well

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-long-SP-Setia/
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:55 PM)
Yep, he has a Grand Vision for Setia Alam and Setia Eco Park, Thought there should still be land enough to develop for > 5 years.
I thought Liew inherited the Company from his dad.  SP Setia developed Pusat Bandar Puchong and build their good track record from there. Of course, Setia Alam / Setia Eco Park was their turning point.
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nope, his dad was a truck driver.

QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 01:55 PM)
Ah..that ah...I know the background. All I can say his experience as a banker made him a very shrewd person. When he bought and merged the 2 companies to become SP today...masterstroke..
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yea thats the part i was talking about, theres something there i have never found out what it was. needless to say it has always been an open question to me
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to the contrary, they are very SETIA to the CEO of the company.
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Haha, i know. ready the story that they are building another company: Eco World.
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Yep, he has a Grand Vision for Setia Alam and Setia Eco Park, Thought there should still be land enough to develop for > 5 years.
I thought Liew inherited the Company from his dad.  SP Setia developed Pusat Bandar Puchong and build their good track record from there. Of course, Setia Alam / Setia Eco Park was their turning point.
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Liew bought over 2 companies, one of them today is a family owned business which is quite successful in Klang Valey
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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:56 PM)
200+ wolves moving into new establishment ?
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they so confident that all 200+ staff will get job there. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Jan 22 2014, 02:00 PM)
200+ ppl dont want to work with PNB . hahahaha
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Liew & geng (family) have to pigi. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:43 PM)
Its not my mindset but the general perception that the construction industry is heavily reliant on foreign (cheaper) labour.  Granted some more technical areas requires people with higher skills.

Perhaps SP Setia employs qualified 'Wire Men' to do the wiring.  But this is hardly a competitive advantage.  In Property, key success factor is Land Bank.  Unless PNB screwes up BIG TIME, Setia Walk, Setia Eco Park will continue to draw buyers in the future.

You cannot make Land.  Granted Liew will have connections to get Land but will the location be as good?  Granted he had foresight to buy the Land from See Hoy Chan back then but to replicate such success again will not be so easy.
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If your interpretation is just onto things must done with bangla/indo so that you can reap big profit, you just looking into own small pocket without leveraging future income.

SP Setia success not because of Land Bank (If you don't understand, please look at iPhone sold by Apple). They managed to turn low value land to high value land by selling conceptual ideas and deliver to customer as what being promise in the 1st place.

I still hold their 1st MasterPlan (they really delivered what they said for 1st and 2nd phase buyer).

Tell me which developer beside SP Setia who really put alot of effort to build city inside green lung??
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 02:03 PM)
Liew bought over 2 companies, one of them today is a family owned business which is quite successful in Klang Valey
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 02:01 PM)
nope, his dad was a truck driver.
yea thats the part i was talking about, theres something there i have never found out what it was. needless to say it has always been an open question to me
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Okay. My ex-coliq told me a different story many years ago. Learn something new today.

But I am sure that Liew already saw today coming when PNB 'took-over SP'. Heard that the takeover was very unfriendly and it was only a matter of time for the Wayang Kulit to play out.


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sp setia soon will be the fallen one  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 22 2014, 02:06 PM)
If your interpretation is just onto things must done with bangla/indo so that you can reap big profit, you just looking into own small pocket without leveraging future income.

SP Setia success not because of Land Bank (If you don't understand, please look at iPhone sold by Apple). They managed to turn low value land to high value land by selling conceptual ideas and deliver to customer as what being promise in the 1st place.

I still hold their 1st MasterPlan (they really delivered what they said for 1st and 2nd phase buyer).

Tell me which developer beside SP Setia who really put alot of effort to build city inside green lung??
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If SP Setia had no 'Land Bank' there will be no 'Master Plan / city inside green lung' to speak off. Don't get me wrong, I give full credit to Liew for his Vision and Drive.

Lets see whether he can replicate it in Eco World.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 01:55 PM)
Ah..that ah...I know the background. All I can say his experience as a banker made him a very shrewd person. When he bought and merged the 2 companies to become SP today...masterstroke..
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With a little help from MCA bi-wigs and the king of parody (who's in the opp. now). Both of them invested heavily into Puchong after mamak king's vision of turning Putrajaya and Cyberjaya into reality..

A banker without heavy connections and role as proxy will still be a banker.

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:53 PM)
the time line is a question

liew quit the bank in 1990, he joined SP Setia in 1996, pusat bandar puchong was founded in 1994. when he joined SP, it had a market cap of 800mil

now think of it, this guy in 6 years, went from a failed banker to the CEO of a company with 800mil market cap.

its like someone dropping a RM2mil lottery on your lap
not all bankers get that connection also
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he is the one who manage those VIP or VVIP account
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 02:08 PM)
Okay. My ex-coliq told me a different story many years ago. Learn something new today.

But I am sure that Liew already saw today coming when PNB 'took-over SP'.  Heard that  the takeover was very unfriendly and it was only a matter of time for the Wayang Kulit to play out.
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i heard some rumours la, but like any rumour well its best kept for mamaks laugh.gif

to be fair, i think its less hostile than what the papers made it up to be. Liew had ample time to plan, PNB even gave him an opportunity to build up another competitor and leave.

i mean media aside, it doesnt seem like a hostile takeover where things are really bad and ugly.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 02:12 PM)
If SP Setia had no 'Land Bank' there will be no 'Master Plan / city inside green lung' to speak off. Don't get me wrong, I give full credit to Liew for his Vision and Drive.

Lets see whether he can replicate it in Eco World.
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Yes part of your point is true hence I didn't really refute it. But land bank its not be all end all..look at Talam. They used to have the most land bank in KL..yet they ......?

I am not trying to glorify SP or Liew..heck their workmanship is not really top class. But take nothing from how Liew manage to market and package SP products...

Smart bugger isn't he? The closest rival I can think off Alan Thong for Mont Kiara..even after Micheal Yam took over Sunrise as CEO is no match to how Liew position SP.
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 22 2014, 01:01 PM)
But people are not nuts and bolts, they aren't mass produced with equal qualities. If the current batch who are leaving are best of their field, then can SP Setia find someone who can replace their shoes?
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Like I said, it may slow down the com for awhile, and it could never kill off the com.
Like the example that I posted earlier, my ex-com hired 2 new employees to take over my tasks.
Hired 1 cannot kaw tim, hired another. There is always more than 1 way of running business
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 02:17 PM)
i heard some rumours la, but like any rumour well its best kept for mamaks  laugh.gif

to be fair, i think its less hostile than what the papers made it up to be. Liew had ample time to plan, PNB even gave him an opportunity to build up another competitor and leave.

i mean media aside, it doesnt seem like a hostile takeover where things are really bad and ugly.
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PNB ppl believed in Porter's theory that with Land being a Finite Asset, Liew can never be a threat to them.

Plus PNB also thinks that since the days of Sime Darby, etc, they have ample Property Guys to takeover.

Lets see how things play out over the next few years.


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if itu orang jugak kopek all their clients & project goes together how ???  ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 02:17 PM)
i heard some rumours la, but like any rumour well its best kept for mamaks  laugh.gif

to be fair, i think its less hostile than what the papers made it up to be. Liew had ample time to plan, PNB even gave him an opportunity to build up another competitor and leave.

i mean media aside, it doesnt seem like a hostile takeover where things are really bad and ugly.
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I agree to this. I think when PNB approached him the writing was on the wall. Liew knew that there was no point to resist, just lke how UEM bought Sunrise. And using Sunrise as a benchmark..an exit strategy was required.

I don't think it was hostile. Heck, there were PR shots for Battersea project tim..in London with all the VVVIP
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 02:22 PM)
PNB ppl believed in Porter's theory that with Land being a Finite Asset, Liew can never be a threat to them.

Plus PNB also thinks that since the days of Sime Darby, etc, they have ample Property Guys to takeover. 

Lets see how things play out over the next few years.
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I think that people or visionaries are the key,

but yea its up to anyones guess if Liew can replicate his success

then again it always makes me wonder these guys, i mean if i was that rich, hell id buy an island off the bahamas ship models over and have wild orgies over the week

they still go work

i guess i will never be as rich
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WHat do you guys think this will impact on:

1) Subsale SP Setia properties especially in growing-to-mature Setia Alam
2) New launches by SP Setia
3) General market value of SP Setia properties
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Chinese call this "earthquake"

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Jan 22 2014, 02:32 PM)
WHat do you guys think this will impact on:

1) Subsale SP Setia properties especially in growing-to-mature Setia Alam
2) New launches by SP Setia
3) General market value of SP Setia properties
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 11:54 AM)
Based on Michael Porter theory, Liew leaving will have little impact to the company.

Cos SP Setia is dealing with Land which is something that cannot be manufactured. Current Land Banks of SP Setia are still solid, can last many more years, some say perhaps up to 10 years.

So long as the QC and design is not totally cacat, they will still attract buyers.

Do u care if Liew was the CEO or someone from PNB when u buy your property from SP next time?

Its not like a Restaurant, Chef leaves and so will customers.
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I think part of the Hu-ha about Liew resignation was to generate interest to his son new company, Eco world.

By exiting big, he create some story for the press to write, ultimately promoting his new company as brand as good as sp setia
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SP Setia will be another Proton???
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QUOTE(xfrenzy @ Jan 22 2014, 12:05 PM)
if u think these spsetia staffs wanna punish pnb by resigning en-masse ...
what about the gov not approving ecoworld's project or simply delay2 their projects to punish them back ?
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 22 2014, 12:05 PM)
Old timer leaves? Good luck in job hunting.
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if ur koyak, how young oso jobless. like uitm gradz
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 22 2014, 11:31 AM)
What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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got played out by government of the superior race. u don wanna leave? stay their to suck kok meh
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 22 2014, 02:46 PM)
got played out by government of the superior race. u don wanna leave? stay their to suck kok meh
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sucking not a new thing to them. if dont know how to suck i dont think he can even start sp setia laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 22 2014, 02:46 PM)
got played out by government of the superior race. u don wanna leave? stay their to suck kok meh
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heard from my sis in law her colleagues some got good offer to go sime and uemland.. end of the day the company tinggal non-human asset saja
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QUOTE(11c @ Jan 22 2014, 02:38 PM)
I think part of the Hu-ha about Liew resignation was to generate interest to his son new company, Eco world.

By exiting big, he create some story for the press to write, ultimately promoting his new company as brand as good as sp setia
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To think of it

Eco world share price have risen 2-3 times since they bought over FOCAL

If Tan sri get 500 mil from PNB, He would have double or triple his money by just resigning thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jan 22 2014, 02:51 PM)
sucking not a new thing to them. if dont know how to suck i dont think he can even start sp setia laugh.gif
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suck clients. not boss' punya.

QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 02:51 PM)
heard from my sis in law her colleagues some got good offer to go sime and uemland.. end of the day the company tinggal non-human asset saja
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see la, sp setia under pnb sure tutup liao. idiots go take over coz is profitable. it is profitable because the chinese taukei and workers r there. now they all leave its just a lousy shell company.

go take over somemore la.

the taukei will form their own company and compete kao kao
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QUOTE(jhcj @ Jan 22 2014, 12:02 PM)
hint: PNB is the current majority stakeholder

First Roberk Kuok, now Liew.

Gone la Malaysia...aih
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Haiz... you know i know~~

Must be a very good leader to have so many pipul follow him resign en masse wink.gif
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QUOTE(NismoConcept @ Jan 22 2014, 02:22 PM)
Like I said, it may slow down the com for awhile, and it could never kill off the com.
Like the example that I posted earlier, my ex-com hired 2 new employees to take over my tasks.
Hired 1 cannot kaw tim, hired another. There is always more than 1 way of running business
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You can apply that logic for 1 or 2 person, but 200 people?
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oldfags will know this is just a repeat of what happened to NAM FATT...
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QUOTE(Ketchum @ Jan 22 2014, 02:56 PM)
Haiz... you know i know~~

Must be a very good leader to have so many pipul follow him resign en masse wink.gif
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hey he is really a good boss.. my sis-in-law did had a chat with the bos. but she said there full liao... he promise her if got vacancy sure call her.. so she no choice go for simedarby offer liao. it's just matter of time when the new company can unite all the ex-competent staff into the same group. currently they have to disperse first.

QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 22 2014, 02:57 PM)
You can apply that logic for 1 or 2 person, but 200 people?
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according to the news, it is 250 ppl to be exact. and plus another 100 ppl that will resign end of this month

This post has been edited by chokolato: Jan 22 2014, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 22 2014, 02:57 PM)
You can apply that logic for 1 or 2 person, but 200 people?
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i think they did apply that logic - that's how u got potong and mas
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SP Setia should be a good company what
heard they pay well in bonus, few months bonus yo!
why they leaving!?
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Jan 22 2014, 03:01 PM)
SP Setia should be a good company what
heard they pay well in bonus, few months bonus yo!
why they leaving!?
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heard that they will restructure and reduce benefit liao. bonus next year sure 1 mth saja liao.
on the other hand, ecoworld will give the same benefit
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Jan 22 2014, 03:01 PM)
SP Setia should be a good company what
heard they pay well in bonus, few months bonus yo!
why they leaving!?
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old ceo resign, change new ceo. laugh.gif
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got played out by government of the superior race. u don wanna leave? stay their to suck kok meh
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i dun understand
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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ Jan 22 2014, 04:03 PM)
old ceo resign, change new ceo.  laugh.gif
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let me guess, the new ceo is bumi type and got connection with govn/BN so all these ppl leave? all chinese also?
i guess sure got alot of vacancies opening in SP
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dang...I hope it doesn't mean that the cute CS chicks at my place will be leaving tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Jan 22 2014, 03:01 PM)
SP Setia should be a good company what
heard they pay well in bonus, few months bonus yo!
why they leaving!?
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CEO and CFO can signed the release of moneh for bonus as long the amount didn't over the limit.

Next year with PNB ppl inside you think they will signed better bonus without cronies makan duit dulu. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 22 2014, 02:55 PM)
suck clients. not boss' punya.
see la, sp setia under pnb sure tutup liao. idiots go take over coz is profitable. it is profitable because the chinese taukei and workers r there. now they all leave its just a lousy shell company.

go take over somemore la.

the taukei will form their own company and compete kao kao
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How did PNB managed to get a majority there anyways? Ini mesti sbb SP Setia heavy borrowing and in need of big influx of cash so sold their shares like no tomorrow.

INB4 - pi SP Setia's website, takde banyak kerja kosong pun.

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i dun understand
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dang...I hope it doesn't mean that the cute CS chicks at my place will be leaving tongue.gif
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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Jan 22 2014, 03:08 PM)
You think people with internet still can be caveman?
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 22 2014, 02:57 PM)
You can apply that logic for 1 or 2 person, but 200 people?
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Worker won't understand how valuable is brainpower.

They thought they are a tool.

Human resource is most valuable.

You can buy machine. U can develop an empty land. A good leader?

For extreme example, imagine apple without Steve jobs. Lol.oh wait. Don't need to imagine dy
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:53 PM)
the time line is a question

liew quit the bank in 1990, he joined SP Setia in 1996, pusat bandar puchong was founded in 1994. when he joined SP, it had a market cap of 800mil

now think of it, this guy in 6 years, went from a failed banker to the CEO of a company with 800mil market cap.

its like someone dropping a RM2mil lottery on your lap
not all bankers get that connection also
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u write exactly like a banker laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

btw, what's the story behind those 6 years after liew resigned? i am getting interested on his story.
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Jan 22 2014, 03:57 PM)
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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u write exactly like a banker  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

btw, what's the story behind those 6 years after liew resigned? i am getting interested on his story.
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as far as it goes, liew had like 5 years in the banking world, he left to join a developer where he met his future business partner. over there they decided to start a development company, which liew was a credited to have done one project. during that time he was in his early 30s.

apparently the story goes liew did a share swap when SP Setia came knocking on his door in 96, but the details are often sketchy. \

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Confirm SP Setia.
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and boss got extra $$$$$$ for screw over staff 10x over. ohmy.gif



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SP Setia slowly taken over by other ppl rite
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http://www.kinibiz.com/story/tigertalk/530...9D-dilemma.html

PNB’s “SP Setia and Liew” dilemma

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The way Tiger sees it, Permodalan Nasional or PNB is in quite a pickle. It has undertaken not to get involved in developer SP Setia’s management. But its president and CEO Liew Kee Sin may be moving to a rival and may well take others with him. Should PNB sit on its hands and do nothing in the meantime? If it were a Tiger, it won’t.

In the corporate jungle, Tiger goes by a number of rules. One of these is a simple one – if you don’t know what to do with a company you want to take over, then stay an investor and keep the stake below a level at which you don’t have to acquire a majority interest in the company.

If you do acquire majority control and ruffle feathers and more, and if top staff leave in droves, then be prepared to put your own people in at the apex, restore confidence and run the company as good or better than before.

SP Setia is Malaysia’s foremost property company and perhaps equally as famous is its president and CEO and one-time major shareholder Liew Kee Sin, widely credited with building up the company from scratch.

Unlike many other Malaysian tycoons, Liew and associates, the main ones of whom are Voon Tin Yow (currently his deputy at SP Setia) and Teow Leong Seng (chief financial officer), somehow did not keep majority control of SP Setia but steadily decreased their stakes. Both Voon and Teow are SP Setia directors.

That puzzled Tiger. Why would they do that? Tiger will have to go into the realm of conjecture and offer only possible answers. Perhaps there were other backers who preferred to exit and who were happy to sell to whoever was accumulating.

That somebody else who had been accumulating SP Setia shares was one of Malaysia’s largest funds Permodalan Nasional (PNB), and associated interests who by 2011 had acquired just under 33%, the trigger point at which a mandatory general offer would have to be made. At that time, Liew’s direct and indirect interests amounted to about 11%.

But things continued as per normal – PNB had two board representatives, less than interests aligned with Liew who had five at least. PNB and other government-linked funds, controlled over 50%, making SP Setia effectively a bumiputera company which gave it leverage to do land deals with the government. Crucially, management was firmly vested with Liew and associates.

And then PNB did something unwise and strategically confounding – it pushed its stake above 33%, triggering a mandatory general offer, which it duly made in Sept 2011 at RM3.90 a share. The floodgates were opened and the protests cascaded. Cries of backdoor nationalisation were heard, and in race-crazy Malaysia the not-so-soft whispers talked of Chinese businesses being taken over by Malay/bumiputera interests.

SP-Setia buildingTiger being apolitical and more than a bit naive here, wondered aloud: But was not SP Setia already Malay-owned? This was met with suitably disapproving glares which chastened Tiger, but only a bit, as Tiger has a distaste for racial politics.

But Tiger understood well the ramifications. Once PNB gets majority control, it will want board control and that may spell the end of independence for Liew and associates too. To put it bluntly, PNB’s hostile takeover bid evoked hostility too and that just would not do. What if Liew and gang just upped and left?

Tiger is not sure whether PNB thought about that and was prepared to move in. That would have been brave but reckless because none of PNB’s property units, Sime Darby included, had developed the kind of innovativeness, push, panache and marketing coupled with the delivery that SP Setia had. That is why the move was confounding. Why did PNB not attempt to make the takeover friendly?

Recall that at the time of that takeover, the election game was being played out and it just would not do to have Chinese resentment and voter backlash by letting the takeover go through in its format then. It was said that no less than the prime minister intervened to rectify matters.

So this takeover was aborted and another one put in place instead. The offer price was a mere five sen higher at RM3.95 a share. This time there were joint offerors – PNB, and yes, smart reader that you are you guessed it, Liew. It was silly to call it a joint offer because PNB would still be doing the buying.

The real difference was this: a management agreement which gave Liew total executive powers subject to board control in governance and strategic matters. And from what Tiger could see from an examination of the board composition, PNB’s numbers on the board have remained at just two post-takeover, less than those aligned with Liew which at that time would have amounted to at least five.

pnb-logoAccording to the management agreement, PNB’s involvement is only through its representation on the SP Setia board while day-to-day operations will be led by Liew for the tenure of the management agreement which is three years, unless his appointment is terminated earlier. Reports put Liew’s leaving date sometime in March 2015. The agreement was made in January 2012.

As an incentive for Liew to stay on, PNB gave a put option to Liew to sell his direct over-8% stake in SP Setia in three tranches over three years, effectively giving him a floor exit price of RM3.95 even if the price of the shares fell below that. The share price traded recently around RM3.20.

This was no incentive at all. As a joint offeror for the takeover of SP Setia, he should have been required to just keep the stake and take his chances with market movements. If he did well, he would reap the benefits from higher share prices.

As it is, Liew got the best of both worlds – a high exit price even if the share did not perform and management control to boot even if he exercised part of the options. His direct stake has been whittled down to below 3% from over 8% as he exercised his options but he is still firmly in the driver’s seat. How odd!

At the end of PNB’s revised offer (Tiger excludes Liew here because he was joint offeror in name only) it ended up, together with associate companies, owning nearly 70% of SP Setia, a management agreement which gave Liew total executive powers and for PNB still just two representatives on the board.

That’s a bum deal for PNB in every way – it has taken over the company but has absolutely no say in management and does not even have board control which implies no control over even strategic or governance matters. Again, how odd!

The hope was that Liew would do his utmost for SP Setia in the three years of the management contract. But other events overtook this, leading to serious questions of conflict for Liew which are yet to be resolved. It changed the game completely for SP Setia and PNB to the disfavour of both entities.

ecoworld thumbLess than a year after PNB’s takeover of SP Setia, a new and rapidly rising name in property emerged – Eco World Development which is making waves throughout the property circle. Note the “Eco” in it. Its main properties have the “eco” in it too – EcoSky, EcoBotanic, EcoBusiness Park etc.

That’s much like many of SP Setia’s higher end projects – Setia Eco Park, Eco City, Eco Glades, Eco Hills. It’s getting to be very difficult to differentiate one from another. In fact, Eco World is staffed by former top executives of SP Setia. Interestingly, Liew’s son, Liew Tian Xiong, at 22 and a 2012 graduate from Melbourne University, is on the board of Eco World.

Meantime, Eco World, together with Tian Xiong has already bought a 65% stake in listed developer Focal Aims at RM1.40 a share or some RM230 million and is making an offer for the remaining shares. Of the 65%, 35% (more than half) is owned by Tian Xiong and that would have cost about RM124 million.

Eco World and SP Setia picTiger says tender Tian Xiong cannot have that kind of money at his disposal – it must come from his father, don’t you think? In fact, that is confirmed in a Focal Aims announcement to Bursa Malaysia where Liew and his wife are listed as parties acting in concert for the offer for the rest of Focal Aims as financiers to their son Tian Xiong. The general expectation is for Eco World’s assets, which the company says have a gross development value of RM30 billion, to be injected into Focal Aims via a backdoor listing.

Eventually one can expect Eco World to become a major rival to SP Setia itself. And where would that place Liew?

Isn’t it time PNB satisfies itself as to what Liew’s intentions are? Shouldn’t Liew and PNB CEO Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman have a tete-a-tete and shouldn’t the latter ask the former whether he would stay on in SP Setia or follow his son?

Even if Liew gives his assurance, has PNB evaluated the situation to determine if that is reasonable and fair, to use a term that financial advisers are fond of? And if they have already had the conversation shouldn’t the investing public know the outcome?

And what about Battersea, the RM40 billion project in London? SP Setia and Liew lead this venture which is 40% owned by SP Setia, 40% by Sime Darby and 20% by the Employees Provident Fund. Shouldn’t Sime Darby and EPF be concerned about how Liew will handle this and indeed if he can given his potential conflicts?

Will PNB use its voting power to get additional representation on the board? Will it then make changes at the top and replace Liew with someone else who is demonstrably more committed and has no conflicts of interest?

If PNB does that, can it be sure that Liew’s two lieutenants still remaining in SP Setia, Voon and Teong won’t leave as well? These two have been with Liew for the last 17 years and helped him build SP Setia. Won’t their loyalties be with Liew too? Indeed, would PNB want these two to remain there without Liew? And if they stayed, how confident can PNB be that they will work for SP Setia’s interests?

When is PNB, through its various companies the largest owner of property developers and land banks in the country, going to push for in-house expertise and capability to be built within its various holdings instead of depending on other developers indefinitely?

PNB right now is well and truly pickled over this SP Setia and Liew dilemma. It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t and sometimes it may be better to be damned doing then damned doing nothing at all.

Tiger knows PNB is no Tiger and the answers are a foregone conclusion. Which leaves this final niggling, disturbing question: What’s going to happen to SP Setia? What’s going to happen to Battersea?

GRRRR.

(This Tiger declares his interest. In furtherance of a tiger’s natural predilection to live somewhere closer to nature, he bought an abode developed by SP Setia some years back.)
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boss only want see profit, no clue on any strategy goes.

and boss got extra $$$$$$ for screw over staff 10x over.  ohmy.gif
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lol cant help it, was one tongue.gif

as far as it goes, liew had like 5 years in the banking world,  he left to join a developer where he met his future business partner. over there they decided to start a development company, which liew was a credited to have done one project. during that time he was in his early 30s.

apparently the story goes liew did a share swap when SP Setia came knocking on his door in 96, but the details are often sketchy. \
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my god. just 5 years on banking. still considered green. such luck he had.
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in the nutshell,

govt want overtake the company then CEO dont want then resign the all worker follow them..

correct?
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next time use Chinese name on company. They will lost interest.
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so the chances of SP Setia to have many $$ losses for the next few years will be quite high...

$$ go where , everyone knows liao
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my god. just 5 years on banking. still considered green. such luck he had.
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well hte developer part was kinda off, he joined a developer as a salary man.

SP Setia story

doesnt say much untill the Setia Alam deal, but i guess it gives you an idea

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Screw as in  brows.gif
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unker : got anak pompuan not ? brows.gif

aunty : mari pigi drinking whistling.gif

if not layan, see lar you will lost everthing

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PNB is GLC kan?

SP Setia run to the ground oso nvm... since it is "ah kong"'s money..
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It's all over the news that big boss quit. So, he confirm starting new company.  biggrin.gif
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this is spinoff. new bos and new company will used old customer+old supplier+old marketing etc etc. but if original company (company work before) dapat figure out this issues and customer also lari pergi sana.....standby la.

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well hte developer part was kinda off, he joined a developer as a salary man. 

SP Setia story

doesnt say much untill the Setia Alam deal, but i guess it gives you an idea
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want to find a property developer to hire me  cry.gif
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lol, well go buddy buddy with sme developers la

one old banker did that, he went buddy buddy then ebcame developer also. upgrade car to hummer summore

not saying that everyone gets gold, but it does happen
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I'm more interested the 6 year "gap" thing  hmm.gif
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my theory. since most bankers dealing with corporate loans are the best ppl to write up credit papers, maybe within those 6 years he became a so called consultant for property developers to obtain loans, until he struck his gold with SP Setia?
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lol, well go buddy buddy with sme developers la

one old banker did that, he went buddy buddy then ebcame developer also. upgrade car to hummer summore

not saying that everyone gets gold, but it does happen
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already got buddy buddy with property developers  smile.gif


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eh BL, you all still issuing?

damn when i left banking, it was my biggest headache, my port all contract, BL acc when i went to another bank. then sudd boss say, we no do BL

me and my boss was like FUUUUUUU!U!U!U!!!

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eh BL, you all still issuing?

damn when i left banking, it was my biggest headache, my port all contract, BL acc when i went to another bank. then sudd boss say, we no do BL

me and my boss was like FUUUUUUU!U!U!U!!!
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yes we still do. funny thing is, now so many BL proposals keep coming in despite the not so hot market nowadays. but banks are very selective too now. experience and cash are 2 main points to secure the BL. but then again, since when those 2 things werent the main selling points to banks? laugh.gif
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yes we still do. funny thing is, now so many BL proposals keep coming in despite the not so hot market nowadays. but banks are very selective too now. experience and cash are 2 main points to secure the BL. but then again, since when those 2 things werent the main selling points to banks?   laugh.gif
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i think the market still hot la, just slightly cooler onli

its not ilke the developers are losing money, speculators that well diff la

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i think the market still hot la, just slightly cooler onli

its not ilke the developers are losing money, speculators that well diff la
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well. thats another story. back to the title smile.gif
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walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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I think its a rather vague statement there with racial connotations. Bank Bumi (CIMB) today is a success..and same like Maybank (Founder is a Chinese). It all boils down how the co will be managed. If they take the UEM + Sunrise route = all aint too well...

By the way..ekovest is different co bro..rumour is that Liew is heading to Eco World.
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No, there is no racial connotation, the people who tookover are mostly Bee End biz people who want to profit from the efforts of those successful entrepreners who build up their biz empire through generations. Maybank, UMW, Cycle & Carriage, UMBC, Sime Darby, Guthrie to name a few. These people who bought the bizness, did not use their own money, they use the muscle funds of EPF, Tabung Haji, LTAT and PNB to buy them over. If they were bought over by their very own $$$ from their own biz empire they build, that would have been different.

Now they are building on their success on the success of others.

who knows? Public Bank, Hong Leong (the owner would sell if the price is right - his principle is buy cheap sell high), Maxis could be next in line and the big rubber glove consortiums too.

I heard that Ecovest is headed by Liew's son..Liew apparently want to retire and take a back seat as advisor.

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No, there is no racial connotation, the people who tookover are mostly Bee End biz people who want to profit from the efforts of those successful entrepreners who build up their biz empire through generations. Maybank, UMW, Cycle & Carriage, UMBC, Sime Darby, Guthrie to name a few. These people who bought the bizness, did not use their own money, they use the muscle funds of EPF, Tabung Haji, LTAT and PNB to buy them over. If they were bought over by their very own $$$ from their own biz empire they build, that would have been different.

Now they are building on their success on the success of others.

who knows? Public Bank, Hong Leong (the owner would sell if the price is right - his principle is buy cheap sell high), Maxis could be next in line and the big rubber glove consortiums too.

I heard that Ecovest is headed by Liew's son..Liew apparently want to retire and take a back seat as advisor.
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not ekovest la... ecoworld
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not ekovest la... ecoworld
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in the nutshell,

govt tookover the company and change a lot of policies that is against the company culture then CEO dont want approve these changes of policy of disadvantages towards the staff then he resign the all worker follow him to a new company that will give the same yet better benefit than their current benefits

correct?
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the SP Setia boss resign because he piap all the female workers there already, time to change company
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sp setia will definitely not be the same without Liew Kee Sin. he's the driving force and solely responsible for shaping sp setia to what it is today. without him, it'll become a faceless developer like sime darby, I&P.
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the SP Setia boss resign because he piap all the female workers there already, time to change company
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please don't post nonsense like this. he's very devoted to his family. i'm not related to him but just a former staff.
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next time use Chinese name on company. They will lost interest.
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got Chinese name also won't stop them. Kian Joo is a good example. Next takeover
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walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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dude....news/hoax or whatever thing the information shows in other source just say that director of SP Setia resign
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 22 2014, 05:09 PM)
No, there is no racial connotation, the people who tookover are mostly Bee End biz people who want to profit from the efforts of those successful entrepreners who build up their biz empire through generations. Maybank, UMW, Cycle & Carriage, UMBC, Sime Darby, Guthrie to name a few. These people who bought the bizness, did not use their own money, they use the muscle funds of EPF, Tabung Haji, LTAT and PNB to buy them over. If they were bought over by their very own $$$ from their own biz empire they build, that would have been different.

Now they are building on their success on the success of others.

who knows? Public Bank, Hong Leong (the owner would sell if the price is right - his principle is buy cheap sell high), Maxis could be next in line and the big rubber glove consortiums too.

I heard that Ecovest is headed by Liew's son..Liew apparently want to retire and take a back seat as advisor.
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don't be so naive lah; regulatory approval is controlled by them so you never see the reverse happening

they always jealous of non-bumi success in big business and will slowly makan all
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QUOTE(grumpydrive @ Jan 22 2014, 03:09 PM)
How did PNB managed to get a majority there anyways?  Ini mesti sbb SP Setia heavy borrowing and in need of big influx of cash so sold their shares like no tomorrow.

INB4 - pi SP Setia's website, takde banyak kerja kosong pun.
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just like how gomen took over chinese banks last time la.
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pretty simple, if u are non-Malay, ur business in Malaysia starting to grow too big, goes elsewhere. Just NOT Malaysia.
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jan 22 2014, 05:46 PM)
please don't post nonsense like this. he's very devoted to his family. i'm not related to him but just a former staff.
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market already priced in months ago that Liew was joining Eco World.

see the share price also know liao
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QUOTE(Ivan113 @ Jan 22 2014, 05:34 PM)
the SP Setia boss resign because he piap all the female workers there already, time to change company
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so will BeeN mane the ship now?
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the guy is true leader

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if merely a boss, ppl would open champagne when he resigned
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so fast 6 stars di...
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jan 22 2014, 04:14 PM)
next time use Chinese name on company. They will lost interest.
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that's why Hong Leong still survived?

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but anyway, Hong Leong pinya boss is DSAI's most powerful and lich best fwen brows.gif
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Any Bumi here interest in takeover Public Bank?
Bank Negara can give financial assistance and backing, start accumalating the shares from market now
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everyone also know hahaha
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Jan 22 2014, 06:32 PM)
the guy is true leader

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if merely a boss, ppl would open champagne when he resigned
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seldom got openings in SP Setia, very few staffs leave !
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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tunggular...

now got extra 200 + vacancy out to entry SP setia..

tis world dun say no who cannot survive...

new blood always replace old one....

tgklar..

as long as SP setia ada wang...

dia takut apa.. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

only those pipul will think SP setia will runtuh coz of their resign....
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jan 22 2014, 05:46 PM)
please don't post nonsense like this. he's very devoted to his family. i'm not related to him but just a former staff.
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 22 2014, 05:57 PM)
don't be so naive lah; regulatory approval is controlled by them so you never see the reverse happening

they always jealous of non-bumi success in big business and will slowly makan all
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Not being naive la..

Of course la, they jealous of non-bumi..but whenever they makan, they suddenly find that the food is too hot to handle.

Just like when RHB makan UMBC & D&C bank, PNB makan Setia.

Now they very hungry wanna makan Public Bank and Maxis because the owners got no future generation to takeover.


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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jan 22 2014, 06:12 PM)
pretty simple, if u are non-Malay, ur business in Malaysia starting to grow too big, goes elsewhere. Just NOT Malaysia.
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QUOTE(balanar_27 @ Jan 22 2014, 06:45 PM)
tunggular...

now got extra 200 + vacancy out to entry SP setia..

tis world dun say no who cannot survive...

new blood always replace old one....

tgklar..

as long as SP setia ada wang...

dia takut apa.. icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

only those pipul will think SP setia will runtuh coz of their resign....
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this is very typical mentality in property company. ikut boss cari makan.. old school
but my old boss used to tell me his mantra. no one is irreplaceable.
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All run to Ecoworld liao? lol
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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Jan 22 2014, 06:50 PM)
All run to Ecoworld liao? lol
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QUOTE(niwde @ Jan 22 2014, 12:31 PM)
Now the company staffs........

not so setia are they?
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 22 2014, 07:50 PM)
this is very typical mentality in property company. ikut boss cari makan.. old school
but my old boss used to tell me his mantra. no one is irreplaceable.
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Same as my previous boss - NOBODY IS INDISPENSABLE
lol

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Jan 22 2014, 06:32 PM)
the guy is true leader

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if merely a boss, ppl would open champagne when he resigned
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That picture sucks! mad.gif

It's the boss/leader's responsibility to steer the team in the right direction.

If he's down there pulling instead of having a better view on top, the whole team will be steered into a bad direction.
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so fast 6 stars di...
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Jan 22 2014, 06:57 PM)
That picture sucks! mad.gif

It's the boss/leader's responsibility to steer the team in the right direction.

If he's down there pulling instead of having a better view on top, the whole team will be steered into a bad direction.
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lame excuse of a boss wannabe as most of the time just talk crap at the top while the direction is heading like headless chicken by employees and hence the company ended up with negative nett profit and crumbled while the best view is actually from the far end where u pull your team together for a exponential growth
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Jan 22 2014, 06:57 PM)
That picture sucks! mad.gif

It's the boss/leader's responsibility to steer the team in the right direction.

If he's down there pulling instead of having a better view on top, the whole team will be steered into a bad direction.
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that's a typical regional office corporate leader, talk kok sing song everyday review powerpoints, discuss strategy here there implement this there.
don't know what's happening on the ground when the local office is imploding with huge amnt of seniors, n juniors and no middle mgmt.
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Jan 22 2014, 06:57 PM)
That picture sucks! mad.gif

It's the boss/leader's responsibility to steer the team in the right direction.

If he's down there pulling instead of having a better view on top, the whole team will be steered into a bad direction.
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Betul ke cerita ni? Anyway aku mmg tak support sangat kalau government beli semua property developer and jadikan diorang GLC. Kene bagi freedom baru la ade competition dalam industry. Ini macam semua benda bayar ke kerajaan. Rumah la, excise duty kereta la, tol bayar kat epf la dan lain2 lagi.
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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Jan 22 2014, 07:15 PM)
Betul ke cerita ni? Anyway aku mmg tak support sangat kalau government beli semua property developer and jadikan diorang GLC. Kene bagi freedom baru la ade competition dalam industry. Ini macam semua benda bayar ke kerajaan. Rumah la, excise duty kereta la, tol bayar kat epf la dan lain2 lagi.
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tu la...when chinese do business successful..some race just wanna sapu
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is obvious stupid PNB bought the assets from SPSetia mana tau? soon all the home owner will get grounded by greedy gomen. Good luck to Sp setia owners
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is obvious stupid PNB bought the assets from SPSetia mana tau? soon all the home owner will get grounded by greedy gomen. Good luck to Sp setia owners
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got sum hidden investor now worry liao
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my ceo is a very close friend to SP Setia's ceo. I am afraid for my company in the future as we are also growing from a small enterprise and now the largest company in Malaysia.
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once the staff leave, the suppliers/contractors also lari b4 kicked out coz not bumi

then all their new houses will be built by bumi builders only, good luck to the buyers
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once the staff leave, the suppliers/contractors also lari b4 kicked out coz not bumi

then all their new houses will be built by bumi builders only, good luck to the buyers
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Those that had signed s&p for its development project will sh*tbrick liao

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is obvious stupid PNB bought the assets from SPSetia mana tau? soon all the home owner will get grounded by greedy gomen. Good luck to Sp setia owners
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Those that had signed s&p for its development project will sh*tbrick liao
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Any Bumi here interest in takeover Public Bank?
Bank Negara can give financial assistance and backing, start accumalating the shares from market now
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PB is just too expensive.
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QUOTE(ibnunarsim @ Jan 22 2014, 10:42 PM)
Walaueh! This is good news for 2014.. SP Setia with new hq corporate tower at setia alam with totally new management team & staff. Don't give up PNB, all the best.. and make sure setia alam get mrt or lrt station in future. Bravo PNB! Glory PNB Glory!
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PB is just too expensive.
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When there is a way there is a will...

they could do it with maybank, umbc and d&C and southern bank.

govt got a lot of resources...they got tabung haji, ltat, epf, pnb...etc etc.

Got a lot of laundering going on...

Nowadays we hear bizmen buying football clubs and Formula F1 teams...

Why they do this? Is it for the glamour? Of cuz not...they got extra money from elsewhere and they wanna spend it...legalize it...
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Jan 22 2014, 11:36 AM)
because of this that the company will come out with ridiculous rules such as

- probation 6 month
- 3 month resign notice
- under probation 1 month resign notice
- senior lvl resign 6 month notice or until replacement is found
- bla bla bla
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is obvious stupid PNB bought the assets from SPSetia mana tau? soon all the home owner will get grounded by greedy gomen. Good luck to Sp setia owners
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PNB manage people money in ASN, ASB and AS++ and money not belong to one race only. As a cash rich investment arm they bought SPS Setia share in open market to become majority share holder. For me this is legitimate action by PNB to buy a lot of company share if they believed in the potential of the company to generate income and because of huge asset like land bank in SP Setia. So of course the founder LKS not happy with the move but PNB manage to keep LKS and his liutenant to stay with the company and run Battersea project JV with EPF and Sime Darby. So this is not a shocking story and I'm sure if a lot of people resign its much easy for the company to merge with other company under PNB flagship like I & P or UEM. Last time UEM merge with Sunrise and now become UEM Sunrise without any problem in term of management and delivery of project quality. Merge is good for PNB if they want to minimise overhead cost in it normal in corporate world nowadays.
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Jan 22 2014, 06:57 PM)
That picture sucks! mad.gif

It's the boss/leader's responsibility to steer the team in the right direction.

If he's down there pulling instead of having a better view on top, the whole team will be steered into a bad direction.
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this. the boss always need to see things from top.
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sp setia now under umno crony control.
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200 people gone is quite a lot wor.
Lets see how the new 200 people can bring this company up.
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200 people gone is quite a lot wor.
Lets see how the new 200 people can bring this company up.
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sure low performance...

ada payung besar mcm sp setia..tidak mahu..
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What's the point in doing that to a company that you serve for so many years? Unless staff was ill-treated.

200+ people.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 22 2014, 11:53 AM)
in short, "no one" is irreplacable in a company.
the worst case is hindering in daily business, but that is not deadly issue, unless the company no longer has the capabilities ($) to hire "proper" manpower.
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Lets say a company is a machine n liew is a crucial one off rare component, then sp setia will no longer thrive as it did. Especially considering liew is forming a direct competitor but with all the success recipes.
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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 22 2014, 11:28 AM)
ytd night my bro family came back home to have dinner with us. sis-in-law told us her workplace story.

her kompeni is 1 of the big property developer in msia. her big bos resign already and the kompeni staff 200+ over ppl also resign want follow him to new company. most of these 200+ ppl are the brains and backbone of the company with senior & critical positions.

here's the thing. my sis-in-law also plan to resign. the HR managers (manager & asst manager) last day end of the month. she plan to tender on 1st feb. reason being, they couldnt find any replacement for both the HR managers.. so they ask the HR executives to be step-in manager until they hire someone. This HR executive is quite noob.. so my sis-in-law very much confident that her last day will be very easy, such as she can cut short the notice period, she can claim a lot of things (cos got rule say tender liao cannot claim), etc hr procedures.

the company is basically in a mess cos the old-timers are leaving.. only the new generation remains. i wonder how the company operation will be like after everyone finish serve notice already (in fact even now can see things got stuck and roadblocks already).

then i say la "not good la like this.. kesian the HR junior... i doubt u can bypass the system la cos HR procedures in place dy" then she say "currently got 200+ ppl tender already... once the HR manager leave.. u can see more ppl tender.. because everyone is talking abt using this taktik cos the HR manager very mafan wan.. so they will wait til the manager leave and tender"

itu saja my story
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Her strategy is good but she could do better. Now is the chance for her to seek double promotion but rubbing shoulders with some of those who stay. Doesn't matter if salary didn't increase by much also. Once she have the title she can wait 6 months then only jump ship. Now she jump, new employers will know she is from the old company with scandal and won't offer her good package cause they know her situation. And whole industry also know the situation. Remember hr people are well connected
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Its SP Setia, they had been siphoning people out for months bro.

You are too slow.
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I heard they don't pay their sales staff by commission. Just fixed salary
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200+ Are you sure they even have that many staff in the first place. The new company can absorb so many or not. Unless the big boss personally asked you to join. If you saja saja follow people and ends up NOT receiving the new job offer, who is going to suffer.
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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:31 AM)
200+ Are you sure they even have that many staff in the first place. The new company can absorb so many or not. Unless the big boss personally asked you to join. If you saja saja follow people and ends up NOT receiving the new job offer, who is going to suffer.
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U manyak naive.
U try to check how many sister company park under SP Setia bhd umbrella.

200+ (if all from mid management to top management level), instant arrow onto the knee to the former company

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old news d, the company got bought over by you know who.
you know la she save all her money from young age, can straight buy a huge listed company
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 27 2014, 09:47 AM)
U manyak naive.
U try to check how many sister company park under SP Setia bhd umbrella.

200+ (if all from mid management to top management level), instant arrow onto the knee to the former company
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This is what I am talking about. 200+ and all from management level? Are you sure. IF this company have 200+ mgmt level employee, then something is wrong. Mgmt level team suppose to be lean and effective where one person can lead and guide like 50+ people. I wonder who is naive here.
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QUOTE(finecut @ Jan 27 2014, 09:54 AM)
old news d, the company got bought over by you know who.
you know la she save all her money from young age, can straight buy a huge listed company
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Siapa tu?
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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:55 AM)
This is what I am talking about. 200+ and all from management level? Are you sure. IF this company have 200+ mgmt level employee, then something is wrong. Mgmt level team suppose to be lean and effective where one person can lead and guide like 50+ people. I wonder who is naive here.
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Who make effective judgement and evaluation?

You expect executive with no or less knowledge of company rules and regulations to run the company smoothly.

Can you shoulder the responsibility of buying few millions goods and send it to correct person and correct location??

How about getting supplier or contractor payment term? You expect Tan Sri Liew to meet all the supplier and request for good payment?


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since when construction magnate like sp setia can have lean management ????? even banks cannot have lean management, moreover construction ???



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When your company is owned by PNB and your son started EcoWorld, who do you help ?
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QUOTE(Alternation @ Jan 25 2014, 10:54 PM)
Lets say a company is a machine n liew is a crucial one off rare component, then sp setia will no longer thrive as it did. Especially considering liew is forming a direct competitor but with all the success recipes.
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so liew is the legend, no one can be better than him?
he will be forever good and young, no youngster can best him?

if he is that good, then all other property companies can close door liao mah.
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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 27 2014, 11:38 AM)
so liew is the legend, no one can be better than him?
he will be forever good and young, no youngster can best him?

if he is that good, then all other property companies can close door liao mah.
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Come back to the same question

Bill Gates is also a legend, how come still no one can better than him even Bill Gates not active in his own Micro$oft company??
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Come back to the same question

Bill Gates is also a legend, how come still no one can better than him even Bill Gates not active in his own Micro$oft company??
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because the best one moved to google already?
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QUOTE(Kravo @ Jan 27 2014, 11:38 AM)
so liew is the legend, no one can be better than him?
he will be forever good and young, no youngster can best him?

if he is that good, then all other property companies can close door liao mah.
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Yeah there is bound to be some other company that can be better than Liew's team, but i don't think Setia will be their main threats, not for now atleast.

Unless they wanna dry up setia cash reserve and hire a whole group from some other companies over, else it will be a painful restructuring to get the company on its feet again after such as major blow.

This is a high profile case, but in the background many companies that have been absorbed have proved unable to sustained the growth they once enjoy without the original management team
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Her strategy is good but she could do better.  Now is the chance for her to seek double promotion but rubbing shoulders with some of those who stay. Doesn't matter if salary didn't increase by much also. Once she have the title she can wait 6 months then only jump ship. Now she jump, new employers will know she is from the old company with scandal and won't offer her good package cause they know her situation. And whole industry also know the situation. Remember hr people are well connected
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you missing the point here.

part of the sub-topic is not whether sp will become better or not, it's about "nobody in a company is irreplacable".
i dunno why need to argue over this, it's a matter of fact.

company is like a big group of politic, lu tak suka, lu keluar, even if lu is the smartest or best, lu can always be replace. the company 1st requirement is obedient/loyal, the rest are optional/preferably.
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if just replace for the sake of replacement wont the company go down pretty fast. Its true if you don't want a job sure someone will take it up.

But then who wants to lower down the performance with each new hire.
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since when construction magnate like sp setia can have lean management ????? even banks cannot have lean management, moreover construction ???
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Alright... When you join a bank OR construction company, you go and tell your boss this lar. Hire 200++ mgmt level staff to manage 100++ non mgmt level staff.
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Alright... When you join a bank OR construction company, you go and tell your boss this lar. Hire 200++ mgmt level staff to manage 100++ non mgmt level staff.
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magnate wor bro. my employed printing firm already got 300+ exec and above ppl wor. also is public listed company. just creative arts and designers alone we got around 120 ppl. servicing and exec and sales amount to 100+, managers got around 40. overall office ppl around 300 liao. production and warehousing and general is little cause we run full automation bro.



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i'm quite certain 200+ exec for a big magnate like spsetia is like sapsapsui oni bro. construction require high manpower. from logistic inquisition to health and safety alone i think need more than 400. my firm consider small kuci liao but imagine if construction like spsetia. they compared to us they are like super giants in a big industry, while we are already giants in our industry. honestly bro, 200+ is like small kuci dei.
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I am NOT surprise when you say 200++ employee. But when you said 200++ mgmt level staff, thats weird. You seldom hear a local company having 200++ mgmt level staff. Thats too inefficient. You can have about 50 mgmt level staff managing about 500 employee BUT you wont hear a company having 50 mgmt level staff managing 100 employee. IF this happen, it means something is wrong.

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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 02:41 PM)
I am NOT surprise when you say 200++ employee. But when you said 200++ mgmt level staff, thats weird. You seldom hear a local company having 200++ mgmt level staff. Thats too inefficient. You can have about 50 mgmt level staff managing about 500 employee BUT you wont hear a company having 50 mgmt level staff managing 100 employee. IF this happen, it means something is wrong.
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50 management manage 100 employee is pretty normal in multinational company.

where do u come from btw? i mean company
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So now SP Setia will go one of two ways:

1) They implode due to a severe loss of talent.

2) They excel much more quickly, due to all the old farts leaving, allowing much needed change to happen fast with the new generation at the helm.

I'm leaning towards the 2nd option, assuming the remaining bosses of SP Setia have got the guts and the brains.
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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Jan 27 2014, 04:01 PM)
So now SP Setia will go one of two ways:

1) They implode due to a severe loss of talent.

2) They excel much more quickly, due to all the old farts leaving, allowing much needed change to happen fast with the new generation at the helm.

I'm leaning towards the 2nd option, assuming the remaining bosses of SP Setia have got the guts and the brains.
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Actually its neither 1 or 2, its 3

its PNB bring in their own people with a different working culture altogether.

Existing projects will still continue - BAU but for new Projects will see a new direction and approach.

Wheher it works or not, only time will tell.


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sp setia under pnb. i wonder what direction they are heading now
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WOW, /K SO MANY PEOPLE WITH SENIOR MANAGEMENT LEVEL KIND OF MENTALITY, NO WONDER MOSTLY 20K MONTHLY INCOME laugh.gif
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QUOTE(whyteaz @ Jan 27 2014, 03:29 PM)
50 management manage 100 employee is pretty normal in multinational company.

where do u come from btw? i mean company
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I come from a company where we only have about 20++ mgmt staff handling more than 300 staff. When I said Management Level, its all those Head of Department and above.

Unit Head reports to Head of Department
Head of Department reports to Head of Division
Head of Division reports to CEO


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I come from a company where we only have about 20++ mgmt staff handling more than 300 staff. When I said Management Level, its all those Head of Department and above.

Unit Head reports to Head of Department
Head of Department reports to Head of Division
Head of Division reports to CEO
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if a manager is not consider as management level i think u got autism

btw, 300+20 staff is quite small compare to multinational or sps

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QUOTE(whyteaz @ Jan 28 2014, 10:25 AM)
if a manager is not consider as management level i think u got autism

btw, 300+20 staff is quite small compare to multinational or sps
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i think he shouldve said senior-level management
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wah...kopitiam thread can have this type of formal arguments....
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i think he shouldve said senior-level management
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my ceo is a very close friend to SP Setia's ceo. I am afraid for my company in the future as we are also growing from a small enterprise and now the largest company in Malaysia.
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ur company topglove? cos my sis-in-law gave me a lot insider news abt how the CEO from these 2 company... ummm... i better not say anything

QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 22 2014, 09:11 PM)
once the staff leave, the suppliers/contractors also lari b4 kicked out coz not bumi

then all their new houses will be built by bumi builders only, good luck to the buyers
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u are right. this is happening (cant reveal more)

QUOTE(Freeloader @ Jan 24 2014, 09:50 PM)
200 people gone is quite a lot wor.
Lets see how the new 200 people can bring this company up.
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its actually 250... estimate to be 400 ppl leaving.

QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 09:31 AM)
200+ Are you sure they even have that many staff in the first place. The new company can absorb so many or not. Unless the big boss personally asked you to join. If you saja saja follow people and ends up NOT receiving the new job offer, who is going to suffer.
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its 250 ppl.. and i did not say 200 ppls are the management.... these 250 ppl includes management, the pioneering team and brains who built this company. there will be 400 ppl leaving btw.

At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut.


just because your puny company only have 20 managers/hud doesnt mean other BIG company cannot have 200 management..

QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 27 2014, 09:47 AM)
U manyak naive.
U try to check how many sister company park under SP Setia bhd umbrella.

200+ (if all from mid management to top management level), instant arrow onto the knee to the former company
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its 250 ppl ...next mth is 400 ppl

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Jan 28 2014, 12:40 PM)
ur company topglove? cos my sis-in-law gave me a lot insider news abt how the CEO from these 2 company... ummm... i better not say anything
u are right. this is happening (cant reveal more)
its actually 250... estimate to be 400 ppl leaving.
its 250 ppl.. and i did not say 200 ppls are the management.... these 250 ppl includes management, the pioneering team and brains who built this company. there will be 400 ppl leaving btw.

At SP Setia, the question is not who will replace Liew but who will bring in 250 "foot soldiers" to replace the 250 who will quit SP Setia to mostly join Eco World.

Those 250 are the nuts and bolts of the once formidable SP Setia juggernaut.


just because your puny company only have 20 managers/hud doesnt mean other BIG company cannot have 200 management..
its 250 ppl ...next mth is 400 ppl
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My friend is staying at sp setia, he told me most that leaving are experiences staffs.

So left junior to run the show for xp setia
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My friend is staying at sp setia, he told me most that leaving are experiences staffs.

So left junior to run the show for xp setia
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imagine junior become step-in HR manager oi... damn bangga oii... can hire saudara mara gip high salary liao dey.
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My friend is staying at sp setia, he told me most that leaving are experiences staffs.

So left junior to run the show for xp setia
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ur fren did the good thingy....


experienced meaning expiry sooner.. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

new blood much more important...to keep d company healthy
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wah...kopitiam thread can have this type of formal arguments....
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imagine junior become step-in HR manager oi... damn bangga oii... can hire saudara mara gip high salary liao dey.
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hw cum u knw so much.. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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hw cum u knw so much.. hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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because my sis-in-law works there?
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because my sis-in-law works there?
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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Jan 27 2014, 04:56 PM)
I come from a company where we only have about 20++ mgmt staff handling more than 300 staff. When I said Management Level, its all those Head of Department and above.

Unit Head reports to Head of Department
Head of Department reports to Head of Division
Head of Division reports to CEO
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True. 200 management level is like bull shit lol for a local company.

Before that, Im from a MNC under 3 continents. And Im based at asia pacific. Alone here, there are only less than 10 head of departments (1 department 1 head). All of them report to few highest level on top. In short, total number of directors that makes decisions max also 20 here. All the middle layer managers can consider da gong zai only. So probably the 200 quoted accounts for mid level and some line managers also
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True. 200 management level is like bull shit lol for a local company.

Before that, Im from a MNC under 3 continents. And Im based at asia pacific. Alone here, there are only less than 10 head of departments (1 department 1 head). All of them report to few highest level on top. In short, total number of directors that makes decisions max also 20 here. All the middle layer managers can consider da gong zai only. So probably the 200 quoted accounts for mid level and some line managers also
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No worried The other guy is MNC from 12 continents
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she kaya? hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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she got a very nice corner lot at setia alam.. what i heard was that it is hard to get those corner lots if u go draw.. so because she is staff she get to choose during staff pre-launch. she bought another house and sold it at huge profit. she ok ok saja la.. cos she not management level.. live a comfy life..

QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Feb 4 2014, 05:22 PM)
True. 200 management level is like bull shit lol for a local company.

Before that, Im from a MNC under 3 continents. And Im based at asia pacific. Alone here, there are only less than 10 head of departments (1 department 1 head). All of them report to few highest level on top. In short, total number of directors that makes decisions max also 20 here. All the middle layer managers can consider da gong zai only. So probably the 200 quoted accounts for mid level and some line managers also
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deyy lu pigi baca what i wrote la... ktards nowadays all blind asses the eyeball tak boleh pakai wan... go read what i type in my first post... GO READ NAOO.. nobody ever mention all the 300 ppl is management level ppl

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QUOTE(chokolato @ Feb 5 2014, 11:48 AM)
she got a very nice corner lot at setia alam.. what i heard was that it is hard to get those corner lots if u go draw.. so because she is staff she get to choose during staff pre-launch. she bought another house and sold it at huge profit. she ok ok saja la.. cos she not management level.. live a comfy life..
deyy lu pigi baca what i wrote la... ktards nowadays all blind asses the eyeball tak boleh pakai wan... go read what i type in my first post... GO READ NAOO.. nobody ever mention all the 300 ppl is management level ppl
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hw about ecoworld?

apa main project they got? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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hw about ecoworld?

apa main project they got? brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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dunno... my sis in law going simedarby.. not ecoword
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saw cny ads by sp setia, so nice man, they got branches outside malaysia too??
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dunno... my sis in law going simedarby.. not ecoword
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simedarby mcm besar jer..

ada jawatan kosong boleh intro tak?> brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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walao doh.gif how come u 2 know wan.. u 2 also work there?
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world wide company

btw i heard a group of staff joint mah seng
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last time when doing banking sales everyone sure fight over who service SP Setia projects.
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post Feb 5 2014, 08:37 PM

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so what is the big boss new company?
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post Feb 5 2014, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Feb 5 2014, 08:25 PM)
last time when doing banking sales everyone sure fight over who service SP Setia projects.
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now oso same wat....
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post Feb 5 2014, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Feb 5 2014, 08:13 PM)
not as good as setia but it is still growing, last 10 year growth slow, but since benefit from properties price hike, now days look like active back.
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wat toking you...
Mah Sing has been extremely active in the last 10 years...
the amount of land bank purchased and developments completed in the last decade...
manyaks...

Icon city, icon kiara, lakeville, dsara legenda, m city, m suites, m residences, southbay plaza, southville city, garden plaza, garden residences...

a lot woi...
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post Feb 6 2014, 07:24 AM

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wuiyoo we are talking million ringgit business here
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post Feb 6 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Feb 5 2014, 07:28 PM)
world wide company

btw i heard a group of staff joint mah seng
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ahhhh yess.. during time like this UEMLAND, SD, MAHSING a lot spanar SP setia staff over.. those that did not get 'spanared' over to new company are the "ahem" quality that.. u know i know la brows.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(balanar_27 @ Jan 28 2014, 04:09 PM)
ur fren did the good thingy....
experienced meaning expiry sooner.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

new blood much more important...to keep d company healthy
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new blood coming in from PNB, u think they can do a good job?
if they are so good in the first place, then they wouldnt need to buy sp setia.
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post Feb 11 2014, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(sootienann @ Feb 11 2014, 12:20 AM)
new blood coming in from PNB, u think they can do a good job?
if they are so good in the first place, then they wouldnt need to buy sp setia.
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at least they managed buy sp setia...

meaning stronger.. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(balanar_27 @ Feb 11 2014, 02:20 AM)
at least they managed buy sp setia...

meaning stronger.. brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Stronger wat??? That's is citizen money la.... doh.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Feb 11 2014, 08:17 AM)
Stronger wat??? That's is citizen money la.... doh.gif
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tak faham.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Feb 11 2014, 08:17 AM)
Stronger wat??? That's is citizen money la.... doh.gif
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tak faham.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Skyvi @ Feb 11 2014, 08:17 AM)
Stronger wat??? That's is citizen money la.... doh.gif
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good la use "citizen money" to buy profitable company instead of something like NFC/direct songlap/kroni kompeni.. but those 200 assholes want the rakyat to rugi vmad.gif


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post Feb 11 2014, 02:35 PM

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half cannot get job

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QUOTE(balanar_27 @ Feb 11 2014, 02:20 AM)
at least they managed buy sp setia...

meaning stronger.. brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(balanar_27 @ Feb 11 2014, 02:22 PM)
tak faham.. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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balanar oh balanar . know nothing yet dare to talk so much. i urge u to find out what is pnb first.
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half cannot get job
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sounds true..

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