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post Jan 22 2014, 11:30 AM

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is the company SP Setia?
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:32 AM

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word is that Liew is joining Eco World.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:44 AM

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After Liew leaves, all Setia will him follow him.
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post Jan 22 2014, 11:54 AM

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Based on Michael Porter theory, Liew leaving will have little impact to the company.

Cos SP Setia is dealing with Land which is something that cannot be manufactured. Current Land Banks of SP Setia are still solid, can last many more years, some say perhaps up to 10 years.

So long as the QC and design is not totally cacat, they will still attract buyers.

Do u care if Liew was the CEO or someone from PNB when u buy your property from SP next time?

Its not like a Restaurant, Chef leaves and so will customers.


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post Jan 22 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 22 2014, 12:30 PM)
QC and design in paper everyone can do.

It is the methology and execution matter  to give what customer want.

Outside may look very easy but ask yourself by just doing simple wiring, can you do the correct and safe wiring??
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isn't the wiring word done by Indon / Bangla these days?
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post Jan 22 2014, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 12:56 PM)
it was that time i picked it up coz i was curious.

i was reading about the history and went like "wait........that doesnt seem right" how did liew went from this to that in 6 years?

i did more reseach, found out SP Setia history and got even more confused
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SP Setia was relatively a mid-sized developer in Puchong.

Some years ago, they bough a huge piece of Oil Palm Land on the way to Klang from See Hoy Chan.

At that point in time, some people said

1) See Hoy Chan made good profits from selling the Land to SP

2) SP sees something that See Hoy Chan did not

This project was the turning point of SP Setia.

Point to note - Never Sell <Land / Products> to your competitor.

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post Jan 22 2014, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(TY-TY @ Jan 22 2014, 01:07 PM)
if kena "tekan" bola how ???

mati-mati also need to sell lar.
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but See Hoy Chan is a cash rich company. They do Build Then Sell for their 1U projects. Hardly in need of urgent cash. Bet they are regretting their decision.
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post Jan 22 2014, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 22 2014, 01:35 PM)
If your mindset set to bangla or indon, U will never know what is quality.
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Its not my mindset but the general perception that the construction industry is heavily reliant on foreign (cheaper) labour. Granted some more technical areas requires people with higher skills.

Perhaps SP Setia employs qualified 'Wire Men' to do the wiring. But this is hardly a competitive advantage. In Property, key success factor is Land Bank. Unless PNB screwes up BIG TIME, Setia Walk, Setia Eco Park will continue to draw buyers in the future.

You cannot make Land. Granted Liew will have connections to get Land but will the location be as good? Granted he had foresight to buy the Land from See Hoy Chan back then but to replicate such success again will not be so easy.


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post Jan 22 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM)
There is this Mid Valley project which GDv is huge. Setia Alam is nearly fully developed and so is Setia Walk.

Liew is a smart person. The See Hoy Chan deal was a steal if we look at it now but initially everyone said it was a bad decision. Remember phase 1 of SA had settlement issues where many houses had cracks. Liew foresight was instrumental in getting SA back in track then. He managed to problem well..and now as we know it SA is a big success.

IMHO, itst he vision and planning of SA which made it as it is today and that can only be credited to Liew and his team. Well thought out Master Plan.
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Yep, he has a Grand Vision for Setia Alam and Setia Eco Park, Thought there should still be land enough to develop for > 5 years.

QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM)
i was not arguing on Liews foresight

in general what im saying is this, what happen to Liew in 90-96 is akin to any /k/tard with some experience walking into top glove and asking "eh bro u got CEO job ar" and get it.

if you ask me that doesnt sound entirely right
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I thought Liew inherited the Company from his dad. SP Setia developed Pusat Bandar Puchong and build their good track record from there. Of course, Setia Alam / Setia Eco Park was their turning point.
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post Jan 22 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(junky_man @ Jan 22 2014, 01:59 PM)
Nama saja SP Setia, tapi perkerja tak setia!
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to the contrary, they are very SETIA to the CEO of the company.


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post Jan 22 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 22 2014, 02:03 PM)
Liew bought over 2 companies, one of them today is a family owned business which is quite successful in Klang Valey
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 02:01 PM)
nope, his dad was a truck driver.
yea thats the part i was talking about, theres something there i have never found out what it was. needless to say it has always been an open question to me
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Okay. My ex-coliq told me a different story many years ago. Learn something new today.

But I am sure that Liew already saw today coming when PNB 'took-over SP'. Heard that the takeover was very unfriendly and it was only a matter of time for the Wayang Kulit to play out.


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post Jan 22 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 22 2014, 02:06 PM)
If your interpretation is just onto things must done with bangla/indo so that you can reap big profit, you just looking into own small pocket without leveraging future income.

SP Setia success not because of Land Bank (If you don't understand, please look at iPhone sold by Apple). They managed to turn low value land to high value land by selling conceptual ideas and deliver to customer as what being promise in the 1st place.

I still hold their 1st MasterPlan (they really delivered what they said for 1st and 2nd phase buyer).

Tell me which developer beside SP Setia who really put alot of effort to build city inside green lung??
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If SP Setia had no 'Land Bank' there will be no 'Master Plan / city inside green lung' to speak off. Don't get me wrong, I give full credit to Liew for his Vision and Drive.

Lets see whether he can replicate it in Eco World.
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post Jan 22 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 02:17 PM)
i heard some rumours la, but like any rumour well its best kept for mamaks  laugh.gif

to be fair, i think its less hostile than what the papers made it up to be. Liew had ample time to plan, PNB even gave him an opportunity to build up another competitor and leave.

i mean media aside, it doesnt seem like a hostile takeover where things are really bad and ugly.
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PNB ppl believed in Porter's theory that with Land being a Finite Asset, Liew can never be a threat to them.

Plus PNB also thinks that since the days of Sime Darby, etc, they have ample Property Guys to takeover.

Lets see how things play out over the next few years.


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QUOTE(Freeloader @ Jan 22 2014, 03:32 PM)
Give how long until become PN4 company? whistling.gif
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This will not happen as long as PNB is the major shareholder
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post Jan 27 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Jan 27 2014, 04:01 PM)
So now SP Setia will go one of two ways:

1) They implode due to a severe loss of talent.

2) They excel much more quickly, due to all the old farts leaving, allowing much needed change to happen fast with the new generation at the helm.

I'm leaning towards the 2nd option, assuming the remaining bosses of SP Setia have got the guts and the brains.
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Actually its neither 1 or 2, its 3

its PNB bring in their own people with a different working culture altogether.

Existing projects will still continue - BAU but for new Projects will see a new direction and approach.

Wheher it works or not, only time will tell.



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