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company director resign, 200+ ppl follow him, everyone boikot kompeni liao
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 22 2014, 11:50 AM) Wonder PNB knew this could happen 10 months ago when they launched their hostile takeover. I guess they knew..there were some talk on retaining the management team after the take over..and so on. Then the news of early exit for Liew came up..and jeng jeng jeng... Anyway Liew made a killing selling his stake in SPS, hence hiring 200 staff would be easy peasy. I am sure the 200 staff have received offers aledi before anything. However, I am more curious why PNB didn't have a non competition clause in the takeover Agreement with Liew so to avoid this issue of Liew starting a new competitor?
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(qqmeng @ Jan 22 2014, 11:59 AM) seriously wat bother me is.... despite the land banks he still sell off the co., meaning to say he is converting "property" into cash, and then start small (relatively). maybe he foresees bubbles?? sigh... Ahem..there are numerous khabar angin as to why he sold..one of it is was...ahem "compulsory" acquisition by PNB. Dont ask me for sos ..sebab i got no sos..guna imaginasi
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Jan 22 2014, 12:03 PM) Coz it will amount to restraint of trade, u cannot stop another human from using his skills and expertise sumwhere else to make money for himself. PNB gone nuts la, why the hostile takeover? plus the chairman is also ex-CJ , i think there is alot of govt interference in the running of the company, that pisses him off as hes losing the control of the ship. But now the CFO also leaving ( hes expected to bcome the new CEO), i think SP Setia going down the road of maybank and rhb, without key personel. Property sector so uncertain now, SP setia in deep shit la. good time to buy its priced down shares now Its not restrain in trade la... if it is properly drafted. If there is a time frame and similar industry restriction and also limited locality, it is enforceable subject to reasonableness. Its a standard clause to tie up many start up company founders in VC /Angel Investing agreement. Also, its quite common for Shareholder Agreement to be worded as such. Zaki's appointment I don't think was up to Liew. I don't know how much interference was there but the writing was on the wall then PNB took over. What is inevitable now is the UEM merger with SP to create the largest construction co in Malaysia.
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 22 2014, 12:13 PM) Lets take a grain of salt of TS's second hand story. Maybe it's exaggerated. Maybe it's not 200. Maybe it's the older employees who started together with the founders and are taking the time to retire anyway. True. All I can say is that the employees made a killing out of each project from their allotted properties. All of SP projects were very very successful and many employees made tonnes of $$$ from flipping.
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Jan 22 2014, 12:17 PM) thanks for enlighten me! long tym didnt open my books dy, reallly there are exceptions to it Sure no problem..you are in legal as well?
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jan 22 2014, 12:22 PM) U meant before SP Setia gotten this big, there is some sort of "dealing with the devil" going on ? Wow...got involve go to kubur late at nite and chicken blood ka? Just trolling
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:33 PM) Its already expected la. This perbadanan Nasional think they can buy success from other people like what RHB did with UMBC, Bank Bumi did with Southern Bank ah? You need to earn it one. And its obvious la even though Setia is a multi racial co, Perbadanan will flood Setia with the majority pipu (u know who la)... Last time when Boustead bought over BP's petrol station biz and turn it into BHP, they promote all their own people, leaving existing personnel cause massive exodus.. All the Setia must be going to Ecovest. I think its a rather vague statement there with racial connotations. Bank Bumi (CIMB) today is a success..and same like Maybank (Founder is a Chinese). It all boils down how the co will be managed. If they take the UEM + Sunrise route = all aint too well... By the way..ekovest is different co bro..rumour is that Liew is heading to Eco World.
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:43 PM) Its not my mindset but the general perception that the construction industry is heavily reliant on foreign (cheaper) labour. Granted some more technical areas requires people with higher skills. Perhaps SP Setia employs qualified 'Wire Men' to do the wiring. But this is hardly a competitive advantage. In Property, key success factor is Land Bank. Unless PNB screwes up BIG TIME, Setia Walk, Setia Eco Park will continue to draw buyers in the future. You cannot make Land. Granted Liew will have connections to get Land but will the location be as good? Granted he had foresight to buy the Land from See Hoy Chan back then but to replicate such success again will not be so easy. There is this Mid Valley project which GDv is huge. Setia Alam is nearly fully developed and so is Setia Walk. Liew is a smart person. The See Hoy Chan deal was a steal if we look at it now but initially everyone said it was a bad decision. Remember phase 1 of SA had settlement issues where many houses had cracks. Liew foresight was instrumental in getting SA back in track then. He managed to problem well..and now as we know it SA is a big success. IMHO, itst he vision and planning of SA which made it as it is today and that can only be credited to Liew and his team. Well thought out Master Plan.
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 01:50 PM) i was not arguing on Liews foresight in general what im saying is this, what happen to Liew in 90-96 is akin to any /k/tard with some experience walking into top glove and asking "eh bro u got CEO job ar" and get it. if you ask me that doesnt sound entirely right Ah..that ah...I know the background. All I can say his experience as a banker made him a very shrewd person. When he bought and merged the 2 companies to become SP today...masterstroke..
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:55 PM) Yep, he has a Grand Vision for Setia Alam and Setia Eco Park, Thought there should still be land enough to develop for > 5 years. I thought Liew inherited the Company from his dad. SP Setia developed Pusat Bandar Puchong and build their good track record from there. Of course, Setia Alam / Setia Eco Park was their turning point. Liew bought over 2 companies, one of them today is a family owned business which is quite successful in Klang Valey
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 22 2014, 02:12 PM) If SP Setia had no 'Land Bank' there will be no 'Master Plan / city inside green lung' to speak off. Don't get me wrong, I give full credit to Liew for his Vision and Drive. Lets see whether he can replicate it in Eco World. Yes part of your point is true hence I didn't really refute it. But land bank its not be all end all..look at Talam. They used to have the most land bank in KL..yet they ......? I am not trying to glorify SP or Liew..heck their workmanship is not really top class. But take nothing from how Liew manage to market and package SP products... Smart bugger isn't he? The closest rival I can think off Alan Thong for Mont Kiara..even after Micheal Yam took over Sunrise as CEO is no match to how Liew position SP.
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gladfly
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Jan 22 2014, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 22 2014, 02:17 PM) i heard some rumours la, but like any rumour well its best kept for mamaks to be fair, i think its less hostile than what the papers made it up to be. Liew had ample time to plan, PNB even gave him an opportunity to build up another competitor and leave. i mean media aside, it doesnt seem like a hostile takeover where things are really bad and ugly. I agree to this. I think when PNB approached him the writing was on the wall. Liew knew that there was no point to resist, just lke how UEM bought Sunrise. And using Sunrise as a benchmark..an exit strategy was required. I don't think it was hostile. Heck, there were PR shots for Battersea project tim..in London with all the VVVIP
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