HHhhhnnnggghhh. That thing is so sexy

Perry is already quite worn out. But then again begger cant be choosy

But what ship is actually on the list? Patrol boat is technically a ship also

This post has been edited by thpace: Jan 31 2014, 12:15 AM

Japan? They got anything to decom?
South Korea maybe?

depends on which batch

there are new(er) OHP hull still in service with USN. some of the hull are even newer than some of Ticonderoga-class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Navy



...who did this !?

lol..must be the same guy that wrote Anwar Ibrahim as MB in wikipedia..no politics intended..

Maybe can consider US navy Whidbey Island class dock landing ship 16000 tons， 2 off the this ship will retirement this year, maybe RMN can buy it used as LPD.

actually France Army (Alat) only receive 24 unit Tiger HAP , from 2001 until 2012 (remaining will change to HAD version）, first 12 unit is Tiger Basic spec (Std 1) with limit weapon support like 30mm gun, rocket and Mistral AA missile. If we buy it also have to make some upgrade on system to support anti-tank or small Anti-ship missile. if price more than USD 20 mil for each unit i think not so worth it.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 31 2014, 11:07 AM

china got offer there smaller version （13000tons） Type 071 (Yuzhao-class 20k tons) are amphibious warfare ships



price just around USD 200m （13000tons）

http://globalmilitaryreview.blogspot.com/2...zhao-class.html



This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 31 2014, 11:19 AM

I think if we were offered high-end Chinese warships, we should take it. Really dun think Chinese at the moment designed and fabricated low quality military equipment for the defence of their Motherland..

If the ships in question are from indon, then it is a sorry state of our own local defence shipbuilding industry, which actually started way back in the 1970s, build some patrol vessel. Seems that that particular industry didnt progressed as it should be...too many songlaping and pepol trying to make a quick buck there

the thing is, we can ask, it is up to the US to offer us
OHP offer came out of the blue

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/ge/newsg....php?id=1011395

Hot news[SIZE=7]

PUTD Helicopter Carrying Four Military Personnel Crashes

JOHOR BAHARU, Jan 31 (Bernama) An Army Air Corps (PUTD) helicopter, an Augusta A-109 LUH, crashed in the jungle near the Bekok Dam between 9pm and 10pm Thursday night, according to sources Friday.

However, all the four people on board the helicopter, which was on a training flight, were safe and had been taken to the Kluang District Hospital.

"The helicopter was on a night training flight before it crashed in the jungle near Bekok Dam in Segamat," said the sources.

The sources said that a PUTD rescue team had been despatched to the crash site and succeeded in taking the victims out before sending them to the Kluang Hospital at about 1am.

The four victims, including a foreign military officer with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel who was the flight instructor, did not suffer serious injuries, the sources added.

Bernama learnt that the foreign military officer was from France, while the other three people on board were locals holding the ranks of Major, Captain and a Sergeant.

The sources said the impact of the crash resulted in the tail and the rotor blades of the helicopter to break into two and the wheels of the aircraft were damaged badly.

"The helicopter was described as a total loss," the sources said.

According to the sources, night flight training involved high risks as the pilot had to rely on the 'night vision goggle' and other flight instruments in flying the helicopter.

Meanwhile, Batu Pahat OCPD ACP Din Ahmad, when contacted, confirmed receiving the report on the incident from the military this morning.

However, he said he was informed that the helicopter did not crash but had made an emergency landing due to problems faced by the aircraft.

He said no serious injury was reported on the four victims.

-- BERNAMA

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 31 2014, 03:11 PM

>total loss
;_;

the plan to expand PUTD helo fleet to include medium-sized helos never really materialize

and now one chopper was written off. hope we bought another one to replace the lost one...

........

who was it who offers Mi-171 to PUTD and when the gomen dun wan then he switched side and become opposition?

Dah lar tu tak payah nak sentuh politic.

Japan Mulls Aircraft Carrier Future ?




Japan will reportedly fly surveillance drones from its destroyers as a possible prelude to building aircraft carriers.



Japan’s Maritime Self-Defense Force may begin flying unmanned surveillance drones from destroyers at sea as a possible prelude to procuring aircraft carriers, local media is reporting.

According to The Japan Times, “ The Maritime Self-Defense Force is considering deploying fixed-wing unmanned reconnaissance aircraft that can take off from and land on destroyers. ” If the plan is approved, the MSDFs intend to research these operations extensively.

“ Depending on its research, Japan might someday build an aircraft carrier equipped with fighter jets, ” The Japan Times report said, citing numerous unnamed sources. No details were provided about the affiliations of the sources that might help evaluate the credibility of their claims. However, the paper did report that a source in the Defense Ministry had said that the studies will not lead the MSDF to operate fighter jets from surface ships in the future. The Defense Ministry source did say that unmanned drones would be deployed on the ships, however, because these can operate in “ dangerous areas in emergencies. ”

The move to operate aircraft from surface ships is likely to spark concern and criticism from some states in the region, particularly China, which insists that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is seeking to break loose from the country’s post-WWII Pacifist constitution. As the report noted, although the MSDF currently flies helicopters from some of its ships, it has no experience flying fixed wing aircraft from its vessels because such a move could be construed as an offensive military capability, which Japan’s constitution prohibits.

Japan’s decision to only consider using (presumably unarmed) reconnaissance drones at this time was likely made, at least in part, with an eye toward deflecting the almost certain criticism that the move will provoke. By starting with unarmed aircraft, Japan could seek to gradually seek to make the region comfortable with it operating fixed wing aircraft from surface ships. Moreover, even if the Defense Ministry source is being truthful in saying that only drones and not fighter jets will be flown from Japanese ships, unmanned aircraft will become increasingly capable of being used in some of the same ways as bombers and jets in the years ahead.

Still, the decision to use surveillance drones is also consistent with Japan’s strategic interests. In particular, as Tokyo’s dispute with Beijing over the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands has dragged on, Japan has taken a number of steps to increase its surveillance capabilities over some of its outer lying islands. This has most certainly included fielding a capable drone force. As The Diplomat has previously reported, Japan intends to procure RQ-4 Global Hawk drones in the coming years to augment the ones the U.S. already maintains in Japan. The Japan Times report also quoted its sources as saying that Japan hopes to procure 19 of the new RQ-21 Blackjack small tactical unmanned drones currently being tested by the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps.

One issue Japan will encounter if it moves forward with the plan is that its current destroyers are not equipped with takeoff and landing equipment for aircraft. It’s possible that one of the Izumo-class helicopter destroyers Japan is currently building and testing will be upgraded to have this capability. Japan unveiled the first of these new, large helicopter destroyers last year, which some in China called an “ aircraft carrier in disguise. ” Some have speculated that the larger size of the Izumo-class vessels was due to Japan’s desire to launch V22 Ospreys off the ships. However, the larger size may also allow Japan to use them to launch drones.



Sources : http://thediplomat.com

the problem now.is that we have issues with china

so it quite a high risk to purchase from possible enemy country. We will nvr know if they can sabotage us if needed.
I think the army also have this in their mind when doing large important purchases

will be out in news if ask. congress have to be informed first

Was the agusta helicopter totaled or not? Confused

The OHP is under congress monetary program (forgot the name already)
it was planned to give to other country for use,
iinm the offer to Malaysia is quite a surprise as the decision to named Malaysia as one of the potential receiver is unexpected and it is believed because of the Spratly issues and China incursion.

After Msia deny the offer, the Philippines offer themselves for teh OHP but the congress said.. meh~!

Damn, thank god nobody seriously hurt or dead..


The Malaysian Armed Forces (ATM) Agusta 109 helicopter made
an emergency landing at Bekok Dam.

This post has been edited by KYPMbangi: Feb 1 2014, 12:08 AM