Any one can give me some idea, should i go for TRD or jz stick with G spec

what is spring sear/bearing issue? can u give me some images of it? will look into this and point to SC

TRD plis

Kenot see from the outside, had to remove tyre.

In this piktar u can see both upper/lower spring seat after removed the whole strut from the front wheelwell.


Here is a inside view, some care the strut bearing are exposed, if I remember VIOS is covered inside the strut mounting. This is the bearing that allow your damper(known as ABSORBER locally) being turn following the lower knuckle when steering action for negotiating turn.


Ayam suspecting 2 of this lar But as dares conlanfem his P42 got no such issue, I wish to hear more from other owner to cumbak with input. If in the end still kenot solve, we can arrange TT to diagnose individual vehicle. I'll bring along some tool to help up(by not voiding your woranti as priority ofcoz).

SO really TRD? I go for it la...any advantages?

Ha ha vacuum is the old school tips to monitor FC as long as vacuum reading is required between range. ...

I think you still dint get my question... install wing to make your car good traction this is not the answer I'm looking for. Any way happy learning...

Sport outlook

Got TRD Sportivo badge, whack konar oso moar konfiden

No, ayam not a GT wing guy, neither do I ask you change the look of your car. However, vehicle height can be important in terms of dropping the center of gravity, whilst trying how to maintain the roll center. Dropping center of gravity NOT necessarily lowering your ride, it could be many other reasons. Too many write ups to cover those technical stuff I've learnt over the years in motorsports. May be next time TT baru cerita la. Or if I have the time to start a brand new thread in F&F to discuss about how to improve handling for crap vehicle that came handicapped tofu beam at the back

If u do plan to get bodykit might as well get trd straight.. Black leather seat also easier to maintain.

i see thanks for the detailed explanation.

hmm thats mean upper/lower spring seat will affect the kruk sound everytime i start engine and make turn steering?

Ayam not a magician, can't possibly tell u where exactly at fault by just imagining over text conversation . Pls hv patience so we step by step diagnose lo ok I'm not saying it WILL make noise everytime u start stop engine.

hope some forumers here have this prob on new vios will give some input if they can solve their prob successfully.. sharing is caring

Hi chong, since david called me here I try to know more detail about the problem. Your Vios is NCP42 or the 93?

1. Will the sound appear if you start car car and just drive without turning the steering?

2. Does sound only appear when steering input is given?

3. Does the sound appear everytime you come to a stop example like traffic light and move again?

4. Sound only appear when the car move forward or in reverse also?

Here's what you can do at home, get under your car and have a look at the front drive shaft, then look at the inner CV joint rubber boot. See if the boot is wet or covered in grease. If it's wet means the rubber boot tear already and dirt have gone into your CV joint and cause damage to the joint. If no, then your rubber boot is fine.

Now, get another person to drive the car and replicate the same situation as you mentioned and you stand beside the vehicle to listen to the sound and to find out the sound came from which side. Driver side or passenger side.

FYI, the ABS sensor uses a non contact sensor (proximity type) at the wheels to sense the vehicle speed when the car moves and ABS will only cut in when the ABS module detects a sudden reduce in speed of the wheels from the sensor.

I'm now no longer with Toyota so I'm not associated with them.

About the brake jam matter, this happens only with drum brakes be it for hand brake use or normal use.

Usually the jamming won't be so serious but it only happens if you wash the car at night or park at high humidity area and with the handbrake engage park overnight. Rust build up in between the shoes lining and the drum lining. fusing the 2 together. But with some force you can separate the 2.

The worst case that happen to me before was the rear drum jam at my 206 so hard that it rip the brake shoes lining off from the base because the shoe lining is just glued using epoxy but I think such cases very seldom since shoes lining now some use rivets to secure the lining material.

if you wash car at night, after washing just drive it around to dry up the brakes.

My vios is the latest model (2013 model)

1. No, the sound will not appear if i move forward until i make a steering turn and turn straight (only appear once everytime i start my engine)

2. Yes, steering input ( but for once time only after the car engine is started)

3. No, the sound will not appear. (only for once as mentioned everytime i start my engine during steering input is given)

4. Yes, sound only appear doesn't matter reverse or forward as long as steering input is given (happen once only everytime i restart my engine)

CV joint rubber boot and all rubber is dry (re-check on yesterday at toyota SC with my own eyes) - confirm no leaking or whatsoever.

Kruk or "tak" sound once time only coming from front, maybe it's from driver's side(right hand side)?

Hmm....then as david mentioned do check the front absorber strut. Maybe can try with the bonnet open, put your hand on the top of the strut then get ur bro to input the steering. you will be able to feel a knock if the kruk sound happens. Last time I have a customer with a NCP42 that has a kruk sound is because the spring moved away from the bottom absorber seat when he turn the steering. What I do is put a rubber sleeves over the bottom of the spring seat and re-tighten the bolts. Problem solved. I'm not sure will this solve your problem because can't test your car.

good input. your customer the kruk sound also happen only "once" everytime he restart his car?

if so, i will go to sc and ask them check my both absorber and ask them put rubber too.

start the car u turn right or left steering also no sound, until u make steering straight and step a bit oil pedal only the sound will come for only "once"

my customer is after turn steering to left side and go back straight got sound. It happens every time for him when he turn left so I don't know for 100% your problem is same with him. Best is to still let the tech that can drive your car to check since I'm giving info via cyber space only. Just trying to help out

mine is everytime start engine, turn steering to left side and go back straight then STEP OIL PEDAL once time kruk or "tak" sound. only for once everytime restart engine