Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
199 Pages « < 13 14 15 16 17 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 LYN Official Toyota Vios Owners Thread V4, Thread for all LYN's Toyota Vios owners

views
     
davidke20
post Jan 24 2014, 06:12 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 08:53 AM)
Start ur engine > Reverse your car > turn left steering to reverse > put into D mode > turn steering to right > turn back to normal > press oil pedal a bit > "kruk" sound is produce everytime u start ur engine.

Scenario 2: Park ur car at straight road or near any kopitiam. Drink coffee for 10 mins.
Go inside car> start engine > put into D mode > turn ur steering right/left > brake > turn steering left/right(make it straight) > press oil pedal a bit > "kruk" sound will occur

So, i have to check all the things u mentioned above?

Now i highly suspect it's driveshaft problem? the kruk sound only appears once everytime u start the engine and do steering movement. After that, no more kruk sound no matter how u turn ur steering or do any reverse.
*
user posted image
Bro, driveshaft sound is persistent geh. If driveshaft plobrem, be it just start engine, started engine very long, went long distance drive, short distance drive, all same. As long konar time, sure will kruk kruk sound UNTIL steering turn straight. CV Joing(locally known as driveshaft) is a triangular bearing joint. The reason it emit knocking sound is because some of the roller bearing was worn off, when the already OVAL shaped bearing roll through a flat surface, the apex will reject the shape, and the flatter side fall on the surface will emit fugly knocking sound.


According to your description, Reverse+steering turn, after straighten and move forward will emit the clicking sound, I would suspect several thing that related to movable part:

1) Spring seat misaligned(front macpherson)
user posted image

2) strut bearing over tighten
user posted image

3) Anti roll bar forgot to put grease
user posted image

Usually these 3 are more likely.

Another thing is, does it happen EVERYTIME you do the same act? Or only in the morning when you fresh start to car? And or you left the car long enough, come back and start it will only happened when it's not properly warmed up. If it keep happening regardless of condition, it could be 1 or 2 and or both. If it only happened during cold, probably is lack of grease.
aromachong
post Jan 24 2014, 06:23 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Trade Dispute
2,644 posts

Joined: Sep 2013

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 06:12 PM)
user posted image
Bro, driveshaft sound is persistent geh. If driveshaft plobrem, be it just start engine, started engine very long, went long distance drive, short distance drive, all same. As long konar time, sure will kruk kruk sound UNTIL steering turn straight. CV Joing(locally known as driveshaft) is a triangular bearing joint. The reason it emit knocking sound is because some of the roller bearing was worn off, when the already OVAL shaped bearing roll through a flat surface, the apex will reject the shape, and the flatter side fall on the surface will emit fugly knocking sound.


According to your description, Reverse+steering turn, after straighten and move forward will emit the clicking sound, I would suspect several thing that related to movable part:

1) Spring seat misaligned(front macpherson)
user posted image

2) strut bearing over tighten
user posted image

3) Anti roll bar forgot to put grease
user posted image

Usually these 3 are more likely.

Another thing is, does it happen EVERYTIME you do the same act? Or only in the morning when you fresh start to car? And or you left the car long enough, come back and start it will only happened when it's not properly warmed up. If it keep happening regardless of condition, it could be 1 or 2 and or both. If it only happened during cold, probably is lack of grease.
*
Yes. it happens only during cold start. it does not persists.

after i stop engine, be it for 1 min, 2 mins, 3 mins, and after i restart the car, do same act the kruk sound will occur.

After that kruk, no matter how u do the same act, same technic reverse, same steering turn, the kruk will not occur. it only occur everytime u restart engine for around 1-2 mins.

suspect ABS now.
davidke20
post Jan 24 2014, 06:30 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(vios2002 @ Jan 24 2014, 09:06 AM)
wah bro you are so technical in my driving history experience before understeer, oversteer from dry & wet road and know how to recover from there... insurance loading or some even they black list you from buying is a normal case when your age is young and past history of accident.

by the way what car you driving now and till date how many mileage you have done so far.
*
1 of this, take note the rear right wheel fly off when I was doing 110kph
user posted image

1 of this, getting buttseck twice in a year
user posted image

1 of this, power window and centre locking keep on dying, worst is the well known aircond gone case all together
user posted image

These are the few actively involved in my life. Many more before these. Currently I'm looking for a good deal for this:
user posted image
davidke20
post Jan 24 2014, 06:37 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 06:23 PM)
Yes. it happens only during cold start. it does not persists.

after i stop engine, be it for 1 min, 2 mins, 3 mins, and after i restart the car, do same act the kruk sound will occur.

After that kruk, no matter how u do the same act, same technic reverse, same steering turn, the kruk will not occur. it only occur everytime u restart engine for around 1-2 mins.

suspect ABS now.
*
Ok la bro. U slam 9 the brake pedal kao kao 1st before you reverse the car next time after cold start laugh.gif If that 1 time u slam the brake pedal in the first place and no sound ady, then con9lan7fem is the ABS liao laugh.gif
RoxyMunky
post Jan 24 2014, 06:52 PM

MalaoZai
******
Senior Member
1,852 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: MalaoLand


QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 06:37 PM)
Ok la bro. U slam 9 the brake pedal kao kao 1st before you reverse the car next time after cold start laugh.gif If that 1 time u slam the brake pedal in the first place and no sound ady, then con9lan7fem is the ABS liao laugh.gif
*
thumbup.gif thumbup.gif damn epik statement~ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
TSkithuei
post Jan 24 2014, 06:59 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
49 posts

Joined: Feb 2011
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 06:37 PM)
Ok la bro. U slam 9 the brake pedal kao kao 1st before you reverse the car next time after cold start laugh.gif If that 1 time u slam the brake pedal in the first place and no sound ady, then con9lan7fem is the ABS liao laugh.gif
*
i like that rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
vios2002
post Jan 24 2014, 07:26 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
167 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
wah davidke20 sad to hear that some bad experience happen to you... Gen 1 vios is good model...

i like your reply on technique part... i never came across got member car reply so good. For me i like to adventure, challenge from sport to driving now mostly target how to archive better FC even so engine history is reaching 150k mileage.

how to have good traction in wet road during cornering for medium speed 60kmh ~ 90kmh enter and exit corner beside change to good tire, suspension, chassis, anti roll bar?

happy hunting for your car...


davidke20
post Jan 24 2014, 08:00 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(vios2002 @ Jan 24 2014, 07:26 PM)
wah davidke20 sad to hear that some bad experience happen to you... Gen 1 vios is good model...

i like your reply on technique part... i never came across got member car reply so good. For me i like to adventure, challenge from sport to driving now mostly target how to archive better FC even so engine history is reaching 150k mileage.

how to have good traction in wet road during cornering for medium speed 60kmh ~ 90kmh enter and exit corner beside change to good tire, suspension, chassis, anti roll bar?

happy hunting for your car...
*
Need to know your vacuum in order to achieve good FC. I can teach u how to cheap mod to gain ultimate grip to tapau most vios across the country in corner without flying to the moon, but you're not going to like the look of the car yawn.gif
aromachong
post Jan 24 2014, 08:01 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Trade Dispute
2,644 posts

Joined: Sep 2013

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 06:37 PM)
Ok la bro. U slam 9 the brake pedal kao kao 1st before you reverse the car next time after cold start laugh.gif If that 1 time u slam the brake pedal in the first place and no sound ady, then con9lan7fem is the ABS liao laugh.gif
*
Slam 99 brake pedal, also no sound. after step pedal oil a bit, then only kruk sound comes out haih...
davidke20
post Jan 24 2014, 08:25 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 08:01 PM)
Slam 99 brake pedal, also no sound. after step pedal oil a bit, then only kruk sound comes out haih...
*
1 last thing to conlanfem whether it's sticky brake. Tomolo moaning go to the car, start 9 jor, plonk N gear(make sure the ground is flat) ask your boifren or gafren go push the kar manually see whether u can hear the sound(whether can push or not is anor issue). If push oso not rolling, conlanfem brake jam. If push dataim initially hard to move, but after the kruk sound then only easy to roll, means brake semi jammed.

For now, let's focus on brake. After this slowly boil to other part if kenot solve. So used to all these crap with Plotong yawn.gif Bought crap kar, angry oso no use, can't get refund geh. Might as well solve it & enjoy the kar lor nod.gif To be honest, those fuckers in SC can only do so much coz they gotta follow procedure to troubleshoot, got standard instruction to fix certain problem if criteria met. Ask this fella TitanRev, he's ex staff yawn.gif

Me, I developed with various trial & error, almost got myself killed several times. My 1st ever owned Toyol was a joy, also pain in the butt when comes to repair doh.gif

user posted image

Some of you probably haven't born yet laugh.gif
aromachong
post Jan 24 2014, 08:50 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Trade Dispute
2,644 posts

Joined: Sep 2013

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 08:25 PM)
1 last thing to conlanfem whether it's sticky brake. Tomolo moaning go to the car, start 9 jor, plonk N gear(make sure the ground is flat) ask your boifren or gafren go push the kar manually see whether u can hear the sound(whether can push or not is anor issue). If push oso not rolling, conlanfem brake jam. If push dataim initially hard to move, but after the kruk sound then only easy to roll, means brake semi jammed.

For now, let's focus on brake. After this slowly boil to other part if kenot solve. So used to all these crap with Plotong yawn.gif Bought crap kar, angry oso no use, can't get refund geh. Might as well solve it & enjoy the kar lor nod.gif To be honest, those f***ers in SC can only do so much coz they gotta follow procedure to troubleshoot, got standard instruction to fix certain problem if criteria met. Ask this fella TitanRev, he's ex staff yawn.gif

Me, I developed with various trial & error, almost got myself killed several times. My 1st ever owned Toyol was a joy, also pain in the butt when comes to repair doh.gif

user posted image

Some of you probably haven't born yet laugh.gif
*
park my car around 5 hours and its cold now even the brake part. start the engine as u mentioned and my parking basement is flat. put into N mode, and ask my bro to push the car.. car move freely ... brake caliper, brake pad all ok.. no sign of brake jamming at all..

the kruk sound comes only after i turn steering back to straight, step pedal oil a bit for the car to move forward.

This post has been edited by aromachong: Jan 24 2014, 09:05 PM
xakarix84
post Jan 24 2014, 09:03 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
474 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 06:07 PM)
yes the "kruk" sound only happen every "ONCE" time i start my engine. afterwards no more kruk sound its like in the morning i start engine, "kruk" sound occur. and i park 10-20 mins i start my engine again then got kruk sound again.. lol.. weird?

i open from the bottom first. its all clip one.. then open one by one till top. got 3 screws... and u need to take the power window our first and its using clip too.

go test ur new vios got this sound or not. highly suspect is ABS now. will live up with it arghh!!!

ur driver door also got sound now? lol... shit toyota malaysia
*
justnow drive 2 times, 2 times also got kruk sound, so con9lan7fem is my ears auto ignore it already lol biggrin.gif
i think it is abs sound lo, not very loud, the brake rod sound louder than it annoy me more.... iskkkkk mad.gif

do u remember is there wire or anything near center of fake leather stitching area?
lol door i no blame toyota, coz the tint guy open it before,
now still thinking wanna ask SC fix dashboard sound or not, since it not always happen, but when it do, "tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik................"
afraid 1 sound fix, 3 sound appear! notworthy.gif
aromachong
post Jan 24 2014, 09:08 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Trade Dispute
2,644 posts

Joined: Sep 2013

QUOTE(xakarix84 @ Jan 24 2014, 09:03 PM)
justnow drive 2 times, 2 times also got kruk sound, so con9lan7fem is my ears auto ignore it already lol  biggrin.gif
i think it is abs sound lo, not very loud, the brake rod sound louder than it annoy me more.... iskkkkk  mad.gif

do u remember is there wire or anything near center of fake leather stitching area?
lol door i no blame toyota, coz the tint guy open it before,
now still thinking wanna ask SC fix dashboard sound or not, since it not always happen, but when it do, "tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik tik................"
afraid 1 sound fix, 3 sound appear! notworthy.gif
*
2 times 2 times happen? u mean u stop engine and start engine for 2 times right? so, this confirm kruk sound will only occur when u stop engine and restart engine for around 1-2 mins. thats mean we dont call it cool down process already highly suspect abs pump now...

yes i agree the kruk sound is not-so-loud but it is irritating. wa.. u also got brake rod sound? what is that?

no wire.. just remove power window clip got 2 screw and 1 screw locate and door open area. got white and green tali.. one for open door and another for lock door. it's simple.
mulder_sam
post Jan 24 2014, 09:14 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
233 posts

Joined: Jan 2011
Should i get G or TRD T.T
xakarix84
post Jan 24 2014, 09:17 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
474 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 09:08 PM)
2 times 2 times happen? u mean u stop engine and start engine for 2 times right? so, this confirm kruk sound will only occur when u stop engine and restart engine for around 1-2 mins. thats mean we dont call it cool down process already highly suspect abs pump now...

yes i agree the kruk sound is not-so-loud but it is irritating. wa.. u also got brake rod sound? what is that?

no wire.. just remove power window clip got 2 screw and 1 screw locate and door open area. got white and green tali.. one for open door and another for lock door. it's simple.
*
yea i went shopping, go and return also got sound, but not so sure about the time because i stop for hours.

every time i fully release the brake pad, when it bounce back it have "tuk" sound... haihhhh

the clips easy broken or not? abit scary neh... lol
coz the sound stop every time i use my elbow press the fake snitching area, so wonder if any wire there causing noise
aromachong
post Jan 24 2014, 09:22 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Trade Dispute
2,644 posts

Joined: Sep 2013

QUOTE(xakarix84 @ Jan 24 2014, 09:17 PM)
yea i went shopping, go and return also got sound, but not so sure about the time because i stop for hours.

every time i fully release the brake pad, when it bounce back it have "tuk" sound... haihhhh

the clips easy broken or not? abit scary neh... lol
coz the sound stop every time i use my elbow press the fake snitching area, so wonder if any wire there causing noise
*
actually everytime u stop ur engine for at least one minute and restart engine.. turn ur steering and make it straight back sure the kruk sound will come.. damn irritating !!

clips not easy broken .. actually i think not wire.. i just cover all the clips with double side tape .. and the windows panel also. before this sound 100% gone.. now got 10% sound and i ignore it.

fully release brake .. i dun have tuk sound when it bounce.. this one i dunno ... u check with sc and what they say?
xakarix84
post Jan 24 2014, 09:39 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
474 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 09:22 PM)
actually everytime u stop ur engine for at least one minute and restart engine.. turn ur steering and make it straight back sure the kruk sound will come.. damn irritating !!

clips not easy broken .. actually i think not wire.. i just cover all the clips with double side tape .. and the windows panel also. before this sound 100% gone.. now got 10% sound and i ignore it.

fully release brake .. i dun have tuk sound when it bounce.. this one i dunno ... u check with sc and what they say?
*
lol i already kruk for past 8 years, ur ears will get used to it and learn the auto ignore skill flex.gif

will try check it out when free, if anything wrong and broken, terus drive to sc and ask them change trd 1 lol
what is windows panel ar? >.<

u never had any sound come from brake pad area???
i think roxy complain before, and he get memang macam ini lol
davidke20
post Jan 24 2014, 10:14 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Mar 2012
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 08:50 PM)
park my car around 5 hours and its cold now even the brake part. start the engine as u mentioned and my parking basement is flat. put into N mode, and ask my bro to push the car.. car move freely ... brake caliper, brake pad all ok.. no sign of brake jamming at all..

the kruk sound comes only after i turn steering back to straight, step pedal oil a bit for the car to move forward.
*
If lidat quite con9lan7fem is the spring seat/bearing issue like xakarix84 mentioned suspension issue. If this shit has been inherited since P42, there are not going to layan you coz even they themselves don't know what is happening. So, we need more people to look into this matter. If we can con9lan7fem all Vios shares the same sickness, we can write to tribunal pengguna & giveToyol some pressure to fix it for us
dares
post Jan 24 2014, 10:16 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Junior Member
834 posts

Joined: Jul 2011
QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 10:14 PM)
If lidat quite con9lan7fem is the spring seat/bearing issue like xakarix84 mentioned suspension issue. If this shit has been inherited since P42, there are not going to layan you coz even they themselves don't know what is happening. So, we need more people to look into this matter. If we can con9lan7fem all Vios shares the same sickness, we can write to tribunal pengguna & giveToyol some pressure to fix it for us
*
My P42 at home does not have this issue.
aromachong
post Jan 24 2014, 10:20 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Trade Dispute
2,644 posts

Joined: Sep 2013

QUOTE(xakarix84 @ Jan 24 2014, 09:39 PM)
lol i already kruk for past 8 years, ur ears will get used to it and learn the auto ignore skill  flex.gif

will try check it out when free, if anything wrong and broken, terus drive to sc and ask them change trd 1 lol
what is windows panel ar? >.<

u never had any sound come from brake pad area???
i think roxy complain before, and he get memang macam ini lol
*
err i dunno how to explain window penal.. can take out one.. colour is black one.

ya never got sound coming from brake pad area

199 Pages « < 13 14 15 16 17 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0297sec    0.47    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 14th December 2025 - 09:41 AM