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post Jan 23 2014, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(loon1386 @ Jan 23 2014, 05:06 PM)
I was wondering why all new vios facing this loose nuts issue on lower arm ? if one or two still reasonable la . but I believe most
of the 1st batch face this problem. and I waited for three hours to get back my car in sc. hopefully the sound won't appear again or I will write an email to Shah Alam main office to complaint on this .

I bought toyota as because of the good reputation on suspension , who knows? even proton Perodua or honda no issue at all .
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LOL today my kruk sounds come back again.. sighs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe i will request to change a new driveshaft/lower arm from now to solve this issue mad.gif

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post Jan 23 2014, 08:51 PM

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Sad...i think i cant get my car before CNY...SA still not yet call me cry.gif cry.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 23 2014, 05:46 PM)
LOL today my kruk sounds come back again.. sighs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe i will request to change a new driveshaft/lower arm from now to solve this issue  mad.gif
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Actually is wat kind of scenario u can heard the sound? Maybe I not sensitive enough... So far my car no those sound

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QUOTE(chienx @ Jan 23 2014, 10:32 PM)
Actually is wat kind of scenario u can heard the sound? Maybe I not sensitive enough... So far my car no those sound
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You can try that tomorrow morning when you are about to go work.

Start ur engine > Reverse your car > turn left steering to reverse > put into D mode > turn steering to right > turn back to normal > press oil pedal a bit > "kruk" sound is produce everytime u start ur engine.

Scenario 2: Park ur car at straight road or near any kopitiam. Drink coffee for 10 mins.
Go inside car> start engine > put into D mode > turn ur steering right/left > brake > turn steering left/right(make it straight) > press oil pedal a bit > "kruk" sound will occur

test it on tomorrow .. for my case the sound come back after 2 days. I am going to claim for a new set.

and my bodykit side skirt left side got a bit paint peel off.. SC says after CNY will respray back for me. this is what u get from Malaysia assembly car ha ha....
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post Jan 23 2014, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(loon1386 @ Jan 23 2014, 05:06 PM)
I was wondering why all new vios facing this loose nuts issue on lower arm ? if one or two still reasonable la . but I believe most
of the 1st batch face this problem. and I waited for three hours to get back my car in sc. hopefully the sound won't appear again or I will write an email to Shah Alam main office to complaint on this .

I bought toyota as because of the good reputation on suspension , who knows? even proton Perodua or honda no issue at all .
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sleep.gif Are you kidding me?!

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...=posts&hl=&st=0

4 pages of resentment for Plotong GaGa alone, you sei no issue at all sleep.gif Dafuq r u toking about?! sleep.gif

v12kompressor - Going to sell GaGa soon and bai vios
dares - sold GaGa within a year of ownership, rather rugi 12k than continue maintaining a crap car
billy520 - sold GaGa went for Hongda Insai

Many more fedup GaGa member, everyday need to fix. Hence, ayam here, seriously considering to own a P42 yawn.gif

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post Jan 24 2014, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 23 2014, 11:10 PM)
sleep.gif Are you kidding me?!

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...=posts&hl=&st=0

4 pages of resentment for Plotong GaGa alone, you sei no issue at all sleep.gif Dafuq r u toking about?! sleep.gif

v12kompressor - Going to sell GaGa soon and bai vios
dares - sold GaGa within a year of ownership, rather rugi 12k than continue maintaining a crap car
billy520 - sold GaGa went for Hongda Insai

Many more fedup GaGa member, everyday need to fix. Hence, ayam here, seriously considering to own a P42 yawn.gif
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i am mentioning about proton perodua and honda no issue on loosen lower arm, better than this new batch of vios

kindly advice

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QUOTE(loon1386 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:18 AM)
i am mentioning about proton perodua and honda no issue on loosen lower arm, better than this new batch of vios

kindly advice
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Bcoz other brand got their own plobrem laugh.gif Besides, how sure are you is the lower arm? Usually when after plonk D, pickup time only emit sound could be many element that causes that sound. Lower arm was only 1 that is highly unlikely. Some of the thing may need to look at as below:

1) cross member mounting
2) engine mounting
3) trasnmission mounting
4) loose hose in the engine bay
5) sticky hub brakes(unless you don't have disc brakes at the back)
6) Front/rear disc brake caliper mounting
7) Front/rear disc brake pad liner plate not properly configure, as a result the brake pad is loose

As a Plotong owner.... we fix them every day yawn.gif

Loosen lower arm? If you have a loose lower arm, a slight out of alignment you'll be whacking corner on a straight road liao rclxms.gif

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post Jan 24 2014, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 22 2014, 10:32 PM)
Watched too much initial D laugh.gif Left foot braking has to begin BEFORE you attack the corner, not during understeer. If you do that, you'll spin like gasing laugh.gif Just keep on pushing the steering. If must, then gently/gradually ease off the gas pedal by little bit. nod.gif understeer is very easy to save, oversteer.... ah hia jibai bo hor liao, boh lan jiao goh sweat.gif
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i'm an avid anime and of course initial D. i can assure you the braking all happens before corner and mostly they just heel toe and don't really trail brake that much...

latest initial d stage emphasize a LOT on threshold braking until disc also glow laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 23 2014, 11:10 PM)
sleep.gif Are you kidding me?!

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...=posts&hl=&st=0

4 pages of resentment for Plotong GaGa alone, you sei no issue at all sleep.gif Dafuq r u toking about?! sleep.gif

v12kompressor - Going to sell GaGa soon and bai vios
dares - sold GaGa within a year of ownership, rather rugi 12k than continue maintaining a crap car
billy520 - sold GaGa went for Hongda Insai

Many more fedup GaGa member, everyday need to fix. Hence, ayam here, seriously considering to own a P42 yawn.gif
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reporting in!
first day new proton car ownership and need to send to SC to rectify suspension issue liao cry.gif
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post Jan 24 2014, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:36 AM)
Bcoz other brand got their own plobrem laugh.gif Besides, how sure are you is the lower arm? Usually when after plonk D, pickup time only emit sound could be many element that causes that sound. Lower arm was only 1 that is highly unlikely. Some of the thing may need to look at as below:

1) cross member mounting
2) engine mounting
3) trasnmission mounting
4) loose hose in the engine bay
5) sticky hub brakes(unless you don't have disc brakes at the back)
6) Front/rear disc brake caliper mounting
7) Front/rear disc brake pad liner plate not properly configure, as a result the brake pad is loose

As a Plotong owner.... we fix them every day yawn.gif

Loosen lower arm? If you have a loose lower arm, a slight out of alignment you'll be whacking corner on a straight road liao rclxms.gif

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Start ur engine > Reverse your car > turn left steering to reverse > put into D mode > turn steering to right > turn back to normal > press oil pedal a bit > "kruk" sound is produce everytime u start ur engine.

Scenario 2: Park ur car at straight road or near any kopitiam. Drink coffee for 10 mins.
Go inside car> start engine > put into D mode > turn ur steering right/left > brake > turn steering left/right(make it straight) > press oil pedal a bit > "kruk" sound will occur

So, i have to check all the things u mentioned above?

Now i highly suspect it's driveshaft problem? the kruk sound only appears once everytime u start the engine and do steering movement. After that, no more kruk sound no matter how u turn ur steering or do any reverse.

This post has been edited by aromachong: Jan 24 2014, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 22 2014, 10:21 PM)
Many a times the understeer we experienced in our car(even if the's WET condition) is not irrecoverable because the tyre traction was designed way beyond what we experienced. I'm trying to simplify some technical thing here so you can understand it well.

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1) Turning right corner, lateral weight pushing the left wheel out, as a result CAMBER THRUST to the left, understeer to the right
2) Tyre screech too loud, seeing cannot cope with the speed, jump the gas pedal
3) Transmission sense left wheel on the ground, right wheel need more torque, differential use the left wheel to spin up the right wheel. From understeer become oversteer
4) Driver seen the car suddenly oversteer, scared jump the cliff, hit the wall, car, dog, bike or anything on the right immediately countersteer to the left kao kao
5) Since the left tyre is currently on CAMBER THRUST, there's nothing the steering can do much about it, and driver become even panic because the tyre is not reacting, so KICK on the brake pedal
6) When brake kicks in, majority of the weight from the back of the car will be transfer to the front.

Conclusion: With a full left steering lock + weight being shifted from the back to the front + having camber thrust to the left. We've finally made up an irrecoverable OVERSTEER

Now, finally I can answer your question if you did grind through the above. In wet condition, you don't hear tyre screeching sound. You going over speed also don't know. Again, the tyre will still have decent wet traction, but it's even easier to make it spin if you jump the gas pedal and stab the brakes. Usually, if you're already heavily understeer, just continue negotiate your steering and GRADUALLY relief your gas pedal until suitable speed. Last but not least, you wouldn't wanna hear this, I was once below 25 year old, buy insurance also kena loading. Instead of adrenaline rush, I fuel up my blood with octane. Being a male, and below 25 that 2 factor is already troublesome, couple with a CAR will be a perfect combination of overspeed. Drive steadily my friend. I didn't ask you to hog on the main road at 40kph, just trying to enjoy the car.
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wah bro you are so technical in my driving history experience before understeer, oversteer from dry & wet road and know how to recover from there... insurance loading or some even they black list you from buying is a normal case when your age is young and past history of accident.

by the way what car you driving now and till date how many mileage you have done so far.


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just now i open tyre and see upper rubber lower arm is like "kemek" i suspect the rubber is the culprit.. will sent to SC again this afternoon check
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 11:38 AM)
just now i open tyre and see upper rubber lower arm is like "kemek" i suspect the rubber is the culprit.. will sent to SC again this afternoon check
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I just hope this problem can be fix...

I'm sick with the sound on the right side too when on uneven road... Haiz...

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QUOTE(lovesick_joe @ Jan 24 2014, 12:27 PM)
I just hope this problem can be fix...

I'm sick with the sound on the right side too when on uneven road... Haiz...

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mine solved.

the only problem of mine is everytime i start engine when the car is cold, reverse , turn steering , accelerate pedal oil then kruk sound produce once damn
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justnow send my car to old foreman, said the magic word "tighten everything at lower arm", he checked everything n tried tighten also say nothing loose, and he insist all new car screw is install using machine unlikely will loose..... =(

and we go test drive went thru 7749 humps, the car is surprisingly quiet today, not even single interior vibrate noise wtf, everything rock solid... =.=
but when i go home test on the regular hump, it sound loudly cry.gif
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QUOTE(xakarix84 @ Jan 24 2014, 04:31 PM)
justnow send my car to old foreman, said the magic word "tighten everything at lower arm", he checked everything n tried tighten also say nothing loose, and he insist all new car screw is install using machine unlikely will loose..... =(

and we go test drive went thru 7749 humps, the car is surprisingly quiet today, not even single interior vibrate noise wtf, everything rock solid... =.=
but when i go home test on the regular hump, it sound loudly  cry.gif
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what a jerk toyota malaysia.. i mean local assemble car really make me puke.. rather like fully import car thailand or japan !!! dont mind the price high a bit.

lol interior sound.... driver side and passenger's side also got sound on uneven road?

just backed from sc.. go inside workshop again with mechanic and use light to see the rubber. he fix it... the rubber is still flexible and nothing wrong. ended up put all grease again.

i think the kruk sound persists only ONCE time everytime i start the engine on reverse or D mode.

i strongly suspect its "ABS pump" activate sound perhaps?

I GIVE UP!!! maybe i will claim for a new drive shaft! mad.gif
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 04:35 PM)
what a jerk toyota malaysia.. i mean local assemble car really make me puke.. rather like fully import car thailand or japan !!! dont mind the price high a bit.

lol interior sound.... driver side and passenger's side also got sound on uneven road?

just backed from sc.. go inside workshop again with mechanic and use light to see the rubber. he fix it... the rubber is still flexible and nothing wrong. ended up put all grease again.

i think the kruk sound persists only ONCE time everytime i start the engine on reverse or D mode.

i strongly suspect its "ABS pump" activate sound perhaps?

I GIVE UP!!! maybe i will claim for a new drive shaft!  mad.gif
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actually if only happen when u start and for 1 time,
my old myvi also have this kruk noise and widely said is abs activate sound,
it only happen when i start and drive immediately, my ear already automatically ignore it,
not sure if my vios have also or my ear skip it lol

the interior sound i found 2 spot,
1 is passenger side dashboard near the hole with xxx place, when push using finger, it will quiet.
2 my driver door, at center of the fake texture there, push using finger will quiet too.

btw how u open the door panel last time? pull the handle hardly?

This post has been edited by xakarix84: Jan 24 2014, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(xakarix84 @ Jan 24 2014, 04:31 PM)
justnow send my car to old foreman, said the magic word "tighten everything at lower arm", he checked everything n tried tighten also say nothing loose, and he insist all new car screw is install using machine unlikely will loose..... =(

and we go test drive went thru 7749 humps, the car is surprisingly quiet today, not even single interior vibrate noise wtf, everything rock solid... =.=
but when i go home test on the regular hump, it sound loudly  cry.gif
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Jan 24 2014, 04:35 PM)
what a jerk toyota malaysia.. i mean local assemble car really make me puke.. rather like fully import car thailand or japan !!! dont mind the price high a bit.

lol interior sound.... driver side and passenger's side also got sound on uneven road?

just backed from sc.. go inside workshop again with mechanic and use light to see the rubber. he fix it... the rubber is still flexible and nothing wrong. ended up put all grease again.

i think the kruk sound persists only ONCE time everytime i start the engine on reverse or D mode.

i strongly suspect its "ABS pump" activate sound perhaps?

I GIVE UP!!! maybe i will claim for a new drive shaft!  mad.gif
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QUOTE(xakarix84 @ Jan 24 2014, 04:42 PM)
actually if only happen when u start and for 1 time,
my old myvi also have this kruk noise and widely said is abs activate sound,
it only happen when i start and drive immediately, my ear already automatically ignore it,
not sure if my vios have also or my ear skip it lol

the interior sound i found 2 spot,
1 is passenger side dashboard near the hole with xxx place, when push using finger, it will quiet.
2 my driver door, at center of the fake texture there, push using finger will quiet too.

btw how u open the door panel last time? pull the handle hardly?
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yes the "kruk" sound only happen every "ONCE" time i start my engine. afterwards no more kruk sound its like in the morning i start engine, "kruk" sound occur. and i park 10-20 mins i start my engine again then got kruk sound again.. lol.. weird?

i open from the bottom first. its all clip one.. then open one by one till top. got 3 screws... and u need to take the power window our first and its using clip too.

go test ur new vios got this sound or not. highly suspect is ABS now. will live up with it arghh!!!

ur driver door also got sound now? lol... shit toyota malaysia
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QUOTE(RoxyMunky @ Jan 24 2014, 04:42 PM)
Devil: what you expect by paying so little money?

Angel: bersyukur, wahai anak malaysiaku...

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i believe there will be a way to solve. it's a matter of time before other kind forumer find solution perhaps?

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