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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V56, Kuda kuda kuda kuda kuda!

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Eugene91
post Dec 20 2013, 10:18 PM

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Dear Eugene,

From info that I get from Proton R&D,new calibration for Saga 1.6 will be release by end Jan 2014 if all the test complete according to the plan.So you can ask Service Center around Feb 2014.Thanks.

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Looks like it's going to be on my 10,000km service then whistling.gif

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post Dec 20 2013, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 20 2013, 06:51 PM)
Nmgh, go kl reach Sg besi a bit jam then go back Sban also a bit jam due to rain but reach Sban jam until like constipation. Sit in car until my left butt cheek also numb. Now still in jam and right butt cheek also start numb...when I move around the car try to relax my butt cheek. The aunty in the car next to me was giving me that WTF look
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it took me more than 5 hours to collect my car, and yes i am going to go get dinner now at on 10pm at home... vmad.gif vmad.gif

2 hours driving manual... stalled once... and yes my leg numb oTL
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post Dec 20 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 20 2013, 10:18 PM)
Looks like it's going to be on my 10,000km service then  whistling.gif
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Calibration of what?
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post Dec 20 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 20 2013, 10:22 PM)
it took me more than 5 hours to collect my car, and yes i am going to go get dinner now at on 10pm at home...  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

2 hours driving manual... stalled once... and yes my leg numb oTL
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Congratz on yr new ride! thumbup.gif

Re Left leg, consider it as good exercise... rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 20 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(DonMe @ Dec 20 2013, 10:56 PM)
Calibration of what?
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ECU update to resolve jerking. Hopefully ada some improvement in performance as well? Hehehe
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post Dec 20 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 20 2013, 11:06 PM)
ECU update to resolve jerking. Hopefully ada some improvement in performance as well? Hehehe
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Luckily mine doesnt jerk as bad as compared to first 5k.
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post Dec 20 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 20 2013, 10:56 PM)
Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Congratz on yr new ride! thumbup.gif

Re Left leg, consider it as good exercise... rolleyes.gif
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thanks bro.

and yea free exercise lo sad.gif
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post Dec 20 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 19 2013, 11:11 PM)
just look for zedo D900. THere are loads of other models too like zedoD928, etc etc... I dont know which to choose so cincai take D900 only coz looks nice... tongue.gif

hint: try china websites for cheap cheap price. wink.gif
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oh.. taobao? qoo10?
how is the night vision? gooding? drool.gif
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post Dec 21 2013, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 20 2013, 06:51 PM)
Nmgh, go kl reach Sg besi a bit jam then go back Sban also a bit jam due to rain but reach Sban jam until like constipation. Sit in car until my left butt cheek also numb. Now still in jam and right butt cheek also start numb...when I move around the car try to relax my butt cheek. The aunty in the car next to me was giving me that WTF look
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Paiseh nia.

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 20 2013, 07:59 PM)
No way....BTW, I arrive back in my office already....today all the way to KL and back also rain...rain...rain..nothing but rain...

BUT, it was a nice experience....Now I know where reaper stay and his parents very friendly and nice....Although they thought I was driving Saga but instead I brought my Triton monster up to KL....feel so good as no one dares to cilok or cut Q in front of me and automatically give way on the fast lane....but my 2 butt cheek and left peha very tired....because MT....

Got lost a little bit finding 3Max factory but found it anyway...I took a walk in their factory....don't look like some high tech factory but the stuff they made are good stuff because can see some stuff they finish and put there nice quality. Met with the PIC and exchange the item on behalf of Mahihi....buy me some treats from Penang Mahihi...Hahahahahaha...The PIC was friendly too....ask about my car and when is the race...she mention we were the 1st batch and feel so happy.....I told her will test the bar on coming race....

Collected your sticker wkwong91 please bank in money to reaper before collect from me. Thank you.....
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Haha, my mom say u so young and handsome. Not lika a married man.
Payment received, u can pass to wkwong.
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U can collect frm titanrev

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post Dec 21 2013, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 20 2013, 10:18 PM)
Looks like it's going to be on my 10,000km service then  whistling.gif
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Oh they found the solution to further delay the DbW? whistling.gif Sorry but to tell, it's the clutch that causes the jerk. The only remedy is to tune the throttle to close slower, more fuel injected to avoid clutch kick back that may cause engine stall/jerk whistling.gif Try a Hongda Shitty DSi and see, you're going to curse GaGa why same CVT so much different yawn.gif
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post Dec 21 2013, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Dec 20 2013, 11:55 PM)
how is the night vision? gooding?  drool.gif
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erm.... video for you to do your own judgement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1P9MhF6Ytk&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RcnFos3jns&feature=youtu.be

Both videos is in 480p in default. You may select 1080p for eye candy moments. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 21 2013, 02:55 AM)
Oh they found the solution to further delay the DbW? whistling.gif Sorry but to tell, it's the clutch that causes the jerk. The only remedy is to tune the throttle to close slower, more fuel injected to avoid clutch kick back that may cause engine stall/jerk whistling.gif Try a Hongda Shitty DSi and see, you're going to curse GaGa why same CVT so much different yawn.gif
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lulz...tats y some reflash TCU pun masih ada jerking problem?
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post Dec 21 2013, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 21 2013, 02:56 AM)
erm.... video for you to do your own judgement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1P9MhF6Ytk&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RcnFos3jns&feature=youtu.be

Both videos is in 480p in default. You may select 1080p for eye candy moments.  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif The 1st video on top looks clearer geh?! hmm.gif

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 21 2013, 03:13 AM)
lulz...tats y some reflash TCU pun masih ada jerking problem?
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Flash lan lar sleep.gif Do u have that slow down, but car jerk plobrem? No rite?! whistling.gif Morning their car will choke until engine stall, but yours never happen rite? The most you felt sluggish and late shifting oni yawn.gif Sei sohigh only will believe Punch's lies. Best part is, prolly Plotong also admit it their firmware not competitive enough(never thought the engine management was running fine on Persoga/BLM/FL 4AT). Punch's line is always blaming Plotong engine management incompatible geh, which is truth. 1 can't treat a CVT like 4AT fuel control, unless they further delay the throttle response, or electronically control a vacuum generator, something like FICD to maintain certain amount of vacuum(throttle angle) to prevent the car from stalling.
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post Dec 21 2013, 09:20 AM

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I'm not aware of the DBW thingy. Only asked them about the morning cold start and normal startup during the day.

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Indeed Saga 1.6 CVT is having some issue on cold start and it happened to almost all Saga1.6.What Proton Service Centre told you is true.They are waiting for a new ECU Calibration to eliminate this issue.I will try to get info from Proton R&D about this issue.Will let you know once I get feedback from them.

For your inquiry about this is the characteristic of CVT,the answer is no.It's not related to CVT at all.Due to engine is unstable,engine will stall during clutch engagement.
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post Dec 21 2013, 09:44 AM

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i agree with eugene91. my saga flx se need to wait almost 2 minute before start driving in cold morning. if not, engine feel like somebody put wet mask on your nose. and after 5k services, my car seems like i am driving using SAT mode, eventhough i already depress the sat button.
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post Dec 21 2013, 09:54 AM

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The unstable RPM issue during coldstart doesn't happen during clutch engagement, it happens the moment you shift into D/R but your foot still on the brakes (clutch is still open).

That means when your shift into D/R the ECU already go crazy, no need to wait til clutch engagement.

Deswai I think it's not a CVT or TCU issue.
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post Dec 21 2013, 10:06 AM

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CVT kong~~~`It is from my fren Exora Prime~~~~

CVT kong~

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calvin_kenni
post Dec 21 2013, 10:11 AM

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a dummy question here..
when double declutching.. how do u all decide how much to match rev before sticking it down?

say from 5th to 4th
4th to 3rd
3rd to 2nd??

any range for each? aku ni tak pandai hear the enjin sound doh.gif
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post Dec 21 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Dec 21 2013, 10:11 AM)
a dummy question here..
when double declutching.. how do u all decide how much to match rev before sticking it down?

say from 5th to 4th
4th to 3rd
3rd to 2nd??

any range for each? aku ni tak pandai hear the enjin sound doh.gif
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You mean rev match, heel n toe izit? double clutching is mostly those bus or truck drivers do when hard to engage gear...due to unsynchronized manual transmission.....cars now all have syncros on MT....

It's hard for me to explain how much the RPM to hit before you release the clutch.....rev match is done mostly when you down shift and don't want the car to jerk forward so much due to the change in gear and to help you stay within the power band smoothly.....and reduce the wear and tear on the transmission.

All I can say is practice makes perfect....

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 21 2013, 07:54 AM)
hmm.gif The 1st video on top looks clearer geh?! hmm.gif

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Dunno... laugh.gif

But overall, cheap and cheerful purchase. Doesn't even need those 600-700bucks papago thing...
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