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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V2), ASK HERE for recommendation.

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post Jun 9 2016, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 9 2016, 04:30 PM)
reliable tank.... just check for wear and tear, stuff like that
-wear tear (see if realistic)
-accident damage
-check if everything is working (being a tank usually ok)
-check what has been replaced (whatever it is, assume its a lie unless receipts are provided OR you can obviously tell by looking)
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ok thnx

this kete kebal normally just need to add strut bar to stop it from boating right?
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post Jun 9 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 9 2016, 12:47 PM)
2013 Nissan X-Gear Nismo Edition - This is the Nissan Crossover, you can consider a car like this because although for all intents and purposes it is a C-segment car in terms of space, the platform was designed for a MPV (Grand Livina) but for the X-Gear it has been shorten from a 7 seater to 5 seater thus it is slightly lighter but still provide lots of room space. Livina, X-Gear and Latio share a common engine and gearbox arrangement with slight different between the models (e.g. Livina is tuned more for pickup due to extra weight, while Latio's are tuned for mid to top-end speeds), but since they have many things that are compatible you don't need to worry about parts availability and price -- usually very cheap even the Nissan originals. Although the Latio has a high roof compared to cars like Civic the X-Gear is even taller due to its MPV/Crossover body so it is more comfortable for tall/long legged people.
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Thank you for the useful info, noted with thanks.
How about a used Forte? For example,this one?
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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jun 9 2016, 05:28 PM)
ok thnx

this kete kebal normally just need to add strut bar to stop it from boating right?
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that depends on you....its a pro con kind of thing. the bars do make the car a little harsher so it really depends on what you like...

some pipu say its very stable.... imo a car built for comfort isnt really something that would really be considered 'very stable'
to be fair, its not that bad... not like it feels like it will roll over every time you turn unless you are speeding that is


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post Jun 9 2016, 11:03 PM

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Hey guis, help me please.

Budget around RM 7-8k. Need a second hand car for immediate work.

Where to cari? cry.gif cry.gif

Thanks for the help!
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post Jun 10 2016, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(BaLTHEBEAST @ Jun 9 2016, 11:03 PM)
Hey guis, help me please.

Budget around RM 7-8k. Need a second hand car for immediate work.

Where to cari?  cry.gif  cry.gif

Thanks for the help!
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visit mudah to find, with that price range, u can get a wira.

or visit any local used car dealers around ur area.
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post Jun 10 2016, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 9 2016, 04:30 PM)
reliable tank.... just check for wear and tear, stuff like that
-wear tear (see if realistic)
-accident damage
-check if everything is working (being a tank usually ok)
-check what has been replaced (whatever it is, assume its a lie unless receipts are provided OR you can obviously tell by looking)
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Altis really that good ?

What abt the last previous Corolla before this Altis ? the diamond headlight model , wat you called this model SEG Advance ? heard that it was a Made in Japan car as oppose to Vios that was Made in Thailand
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QUOTE(Nafirii @ Jun 9 2016, 05:37 PM)
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You seem to gravitate towards powerful and high tech cars.
Here is the thing about it.
Cars like Mazda3, Civic and Forte you see on the used car market have specs better than the rest and usually are on the bleeding edge of technology when they were launched. However, that always means they will be more expensive to maintain. Cars like Toyota Vios are cheap to maintain and buy parts because from first until current generation they've been using the same engine/gearbox with tweaks between new models but essentially still the same engine with many compatible parts between the models. Cars like Mazda3 and Civic use all new technology mostly for their newer models or their parts/technology is shared with D-segment models making them good parts but expensive to buy as lesser economics of scale.

QUOTE(BaLTHEBEAST @ Jun 9 2016, 11:03 PM)
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1999 Perodua Kembara 1.3 - one thing about buying cars in this price range you'll either end up with very hightech and safe but expensive to maintain cars like Ford, Renault, Citroen, etc. or very cheap to maintain but lacking safety features like Kancil. I think the Perodua Kembara is a decent car for the asking price. It is higher up the road so you get better view and don't need to worry much about floods except really serious ones. Cars in the price range usually don't have much in terms of safety features like traction control, airbags, etc. So you have to make due with things like disc brakes, ABS, and bigger body. An SUV type body like the Kembara is better to be in because you're higher up the ground so in a car to car accident scenario a car would usually hit your lower bumper and tires. Maintenance wise it is a cheap car to maintain and get parts for, as long as the engine, gearbox and aircon doesn't have any issues it is good enough as other things like mountings and absorbers are considered consumables thus would need replacing at some point which is why with your budget is 8k, look for something 6/7k so u got 1k for any repairs/replacements needed.

1996 Proton Wira 1.6XLI - this is a good price for a possibly good car, it is rare to find a completely stock looking Wira 1.6 nowadays, from the pictures it looks well taken care of like a car only 5 years old not 20 years old. The reason why people still go for Wira especially at this price range is the ease of getting it maintained and the low cost of ownership, parts are abundant and cheap. You can either use Proton/Mitsubishi/recon/used parts depending on your budget. I want to show you the 1.6xli because this one has a 4AT gearbox while the other 1.3/1.5 wira/satria all uses 3AT gearbox which is rock solid in terms of reliability however tends to make the car under powered and not too fuel efficient. However, please remember about safety. I used to drive one of these and I can say they're not very tough small fender benders and the car looks like it was in a 100kmh accidents. I think the body isn't very strong. However, if you need something for work the home only then this would be good choice especially if your house isn't too close to your office. Comfortable car too. Just on safety aspect not up to par.

1996 Nissan Sentra 1.6 - back then 1600cc was top spec for C-segment cars so there isn't a bigger 1800cc variant for this model if you're wondering. This is the famous Sentra with the Genting Taxi heritage, although this model is newer than the Genting Taxi model it is still old, however don't worry too much about it's age. In terms of getting parts and maintenance there are no issues. The maintenance of the 3 cars I show you are in the same ballpark, with the Kembara having a smaller engine possibly cheaper (as you can use cheaper engine oil). However, in terms of fuel economy the Sentra comes out tops. If you prefer a sedan and are concerned about safety then I guess this would be relatively safer than the Wira.




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post Jun 10 2016, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(spacelion @ Jun 9 2016, 04:20 PM)
Guys, buy used Altis 2001-2006, what are the usual car specific problems to check for?
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If the prefacelift, just make sure to check for engine oil consumption. Look up "1zzfe oil consumption" on google.

Not a big deal, use thicker oil it will slow down, car owners should be regularly do basic inspection of their vehicles anyway. Despite this it, FC is still good, no smoke from exhaust.

My intake manifold is leaking (rough idle) but FC is still great, RM40 worth of fuel gets me ~170KM on 100% KL city driving.

Only downside I can say it looks ungker. Ungker, all day everyday.

QUOTE(BaLTHEBEAST @ Jun 9 2016, 11:03 PM)
Hey guis, help me please.

Budget around RM 7-8k. Need a second hand car for immediate work.

Where to cari?  cry.gif  cry.gif

Thanks for the help!
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I would AE100/101 Corolla.
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post Jun 10 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 10 2016, 10:59 AM)
Altis really that good ?

What abt the last previous Corolla before this Altis ? the diamond headlight model , wat you called this model SEG Advance ? heard that it was a Made in Japan car as oppose to Vios that was Made in Thailand
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yes wira is a very good car.However it is an old car. yes exora is the cheapest bunch of the cfe model in proton.The price is around 67000.00++ after rebate but preve cfe is around RM70000.00 after rebate. and suprima s cfe is around 70000.00 after discount. And iriz mt which paultan say it is the best affordable car is around RM 41000-51000.00. So which proton car do you want me to buy in miri?or do you want me to buy waja cps which is around 20000.00 or perdana v6 2008 which is around 19800.00 or iswara lmst 2006 which is around 3000.00 or wira 2007 which is around 6500 in kk. i found new price of proton cars in miri because the chinese sales man named issac thai gave it to me
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Waja+1+6+A...EC-36676123.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Perdana+2+0+A+-45906982.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2006+Proton+Iswara+1+3...ST-45707313.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira+M+2007+1+5-45433088.htm.
But preve cfe 2013 and 2012 are
around RM12500 and exora cfe is around RM 13200.00 in kk and puttatan
http://www.mudah.my/2015+Proton+Exora+Bold...EC-46542455.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2013+Proton+Preve+Cfe+...A+-46466610.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2012+Proton+Preve+1+6+...er-46345193.htmi do not know which proton car should you ask me to buy it for me to use and drive it
proton exora cfe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F_bKEY0qs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjp6pxei38M preve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7jUEmyREXA suprima s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtJGQ-y1GA wira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpw9anIWHI perdana v6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLhSBLBfcVI iriz mt

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 10 2016, 11:04 AM)
1996 Nissan Sentra 1.6 - back then 1600cc was top spec for C-segment cars so there isn't a bigger 1800cc variant for this model if you're wondering. This is the famous Sentra with the Genting Taxi heritage, although this model is newer than the Genting Taxi model it is still old, however don't worry too much about it's age. In terms of getting parts and maintenance there are no issues. The maintenance of the 3 cars I show you are in the same ballpark, with the Kembara having a smaller engine possibly cheaper (as you can use cheaper engine oil). However, in terms of fuel economy the Sentra comes out tops. If you prefer a sedan and are concerned about safety then I guess this would be relatively safer than the Wira.
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This nissan and the Genting taxi one is a good choice.. with that price, say no more rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 05:23 PM)
yes wira is a very good car.However it is an old car. yes exora is the cheapest bunch of the cfe model in proton.The price is around 67000.00++ after rebate but preve cfe is around RM70000.00 after rebate. and suprima s cfe is around 70000.00 after discount. And iriz mt which paultan say it is the best affordable car is around RM 41000-51000.00. So which proton car do you want me to buy in miri?or do you want me to buy waja cps which is around 20000.00 or perdana v6 2008 which is around 19800.00 or iswara lmst 2006 which is around 3000.00 or wira 2007 which is around 6500 in kk. i found new price of proton cars in miri because the chinese sales man named issac thai gave it to me
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Waja+1+6+A...EC-36676123.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Perdana+2+0+A+-45906982.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2006+Proton+Iswara+1+5+M+-46186912.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira+M+2007+1+5-45433088.htm.
But preve cfe 2013 and 2012 are
around RM12500 and exora cfe is around RM 13200.00 in kk and puttatan
http://www.mudah.my/2015+Proton+Exora+Bold...EC-46542455.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2013+Proton+Preve+Cfe+...A+-46466610.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2012+Proton+Preve+1+6+...er-46345193.htmi do not know which  proton car should you ask me to  buy it for me to use and drive it
proton exora cfe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F_bKEY0qs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjp6pxei38M preve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7jUEmyREXA suprima s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtJGQ-y1GA wira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpw9anIWHI perdana v6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLhSBLBfcVI iriz mt
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was wondering why all protons then it hit me.. ur the proton loving dude!
-skip the perdana, imo not worth it at 20k and that gearbox is a pain in the ar$$ if not maintained
-thats no lmst.... not even an lmss
-waja looks good if you want something cheap, relatively decent.....


BUT i thought u wanted power....
and your choices are allover the place!
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 10 2016, 07:47 PM)
was wondering why all protons then it hit me.. ur the proton loving dude!
-skip the perdana, imo not worth it at 20k and that gearbox is a pain in the ar$$ if not maintained
-thats no lmst.... not even an lmss
-waja looks good if you want something cheap, relatively decent.....
BUT i thought u wanted power....
and your choices are allover the place!
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it is ok proton lover is better than hater
i really want to take iriz mt because of its qc and waja is quite attractive to me but i dont know if it ok or not. i do not know about preve and exora that much even though it is a cfe engine i heard that it is a fuel consumption engine and low torque.
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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:34 PM)
it is ok proton lover is better than hater
i really want to take iriz mt because of its qc and waja is quite attractive to me but i dont know if it ok or not. i do not know about preve and exora that much even though it is a cfe engine i heard that it is a fuel consumption engine and low torque.
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My final choice will be iriz mt because it is relatively cheap and its qc is the best qc in the history of proton and performance and handling are quite good and way better than myvi and alza and axia and suspension is also good and nvh is not that bad compare to cvt iriz and engine is quite good. And it is better than iafm+ and campro. waja is quite decent but my dad want and ask me to choose a new car so i prefer iriz mt. And my dad also like it because it beat myvi,kia picanto and axia

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:42 PM)
My final choice will be iriz mt because it is relatively cheap and its qc is the best qc in the history of proton and performance and handling are quite good and way better than myvi and alza and axia and suspension is also good and nvh is not that bad compare to cvt iriz and engine is quite good. And it is better than iafm+ and campro. waja is quite decent but my dad want and ask me to choose a new car so i prefer iriz mt. And my dad also like it because it beat myvi,kia picanto and axia
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please watch this video because of this video. it makes me to choose irizhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2Sn4raDqY

mt over myvi,axia and picanto

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 10:44 PM)
please watch this video because of this video. it makes me to choose irizhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2Sn4raDqY

mt over myvi,axia and picanto
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erm... okay.... enjoy your car i guess.....
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:55 PM)
erm... okay.... enjoy your car i guess.....
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please watch this video right nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2Sn4raDqY thanks


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post Jun 10 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 10:59 PM)
please watch this video right now thanks

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i guess it will be suitable for you? (other han the performance, its horribly underpowered which inhind sight, is alittle strange since you were concerned about performance)
abs ehh... it has its advantages i guess.. but imm a sucker for old school stuff, id pick a good set of tires, pads and brakes over that.... technically abs increases your stopping distance alittle bit, but keeps you going in the right direction. BBK ftw



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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 05:23 PM)
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Try putting negative keywords like "lousy, crap, fail, etc" for newer Proton cars in youtube, you won't find any, you'll find lots of positive marketing videos and reviews only. Is it truly that good? innocent.gif

QUOTE(g9000z @ Jun 10 2016, 06:16 PM)
This nissan and the Genting taxi one is a good choice.. with that price, say no more rclxms.gif
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fyi the older genting taxi model has a complicated multi link suspension for the rear while this newer one is a torsion beam only, so handling isn't as good but you're not flying up genting everyday right? sweat.gif

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not to bust your balls but local reviews are more like paid advertisements even if they're not paid to say nice things about the car they can't be honest about the negative side of the car, they have to skirt around the issue or state it but not highlight it.

additionally, in a B-segment battle what kinda idiot would put the Axia (A-segment) in the mix?

i'm not surprised as these are the same guys that compared Mercedes CLA, BMW 316 and Audi A3 as if they're of the same class/segment only because the pricing in malaysia is similar. rolleyes.gif

anyway end of the day the choice is in your hands and you've gotta pay every month and drive it everyday, think about that before you buy it, if it makes you happy driving it everyday and month end paying it you don't feel cheated or you could've gotten something better then choose what u wanna choose.

i'm here to help newbies be better informed not help people choose cars.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 11 2016, 09:04 AM)
Try putting negative keywords like "lousy, crap, fail, etc" for newer Proton cars in youtube, you won't find any, you'll find lots of positive marketing videos and reviews only. Is it truly that good?  innocent.gif
fyi the older genting taxi model has a complicated multi link suspension for the rear while this newer one is a torsion beam only, so handling isn't as good but you're not flying up genting everyday right?  sweat.gif
not to bust your balls but local reviews are more like paid advertisements even if they're not paid to say nice things about the car they can't be honest about the negative side of the car, they have to skirt around the issue or state it but not highlight it.

additionally, in a B-segment battle what kinda idiot would put the Axia (A-segment) in the mix?

i'm not surprised as these are the same guys that compared Mercedes CLA, BMW 316 and Audi A3 as if they're of the same class/segment only because the pricing in malaysia is similar.  rolleyes.gif

anyway end of the day the choice is in your hands and you've gotta pay every month and drive it everyday, think about that before you buy it, if it makes you happy driving it everyday and month end paying it you don't feel cheated or you could've gotten something better then choose what u wanna choose.

i'm here to help newbies be better informed not help people choose cars.
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post Jun 11 2016, 01:16 PM

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1. Brand : any japanese car
2. Budget : around 45k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used. not more than 7 years old car..
4. Specs : Worth the price
5. Transmission : auto
7. Type : 4 seater.
8. Remarks: new to driving world

btw is Nissan Latio a good choice? can suggest better cars too.. thanks.

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