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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V2), ASK HERE for recommendation.

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post Mar 23 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Mar 22 2016, 11:52 PM)
Budget : 50k
Usage : family car

Want to buy a new/used car. Saw these list of cars on carlist. Any sifu can recommend whether it's worth buying? or better off a new car? conti car is quite attractive but heard maintenance fee expensive.

2013 NISSAN SYLPHY 2.0 - 58k
2012 PEUGEOT 408 2.0(A) -50k
2012 Chevrolet Cruze 1.8 LT Sedan Premium - 46k
2012 NISSAN LATIO (AT) 1.6 ST SPEC - 47k
2012 Mazda 2 1.5 - 40k
2012 Peugeot 3008 1.6 (A) Turbo  - 50k

many of these are used to be 100k car, especially those conti
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NISSAN SYLPHY 2.0 - reliable car....
NISSAN LATIO (AT) 1.6 - simple and reliable car....
Mazda 2 1.5 - reletively decent

PEUGEOT 408 2.0(A) - prepare lots of k's to maintain this
Peugeot 3008 1.6 (A) Turbo - prepare more k's to maintain this (generally speaking turbos will cost 'alittle' more)

Chevrolet Cruze 1.8 LT Sedan Premium - kimchi i duno nuts


(should add, that the sylphy is a very very comfortable car.... only problem with it is that.... 1) some consider it an 'uncles car' 2)some dont like its look hence its nickname 'syphilis'

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post Mar 23 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(HyeMoon @ Mar 18 2016, 01:58 PM)
1. Brand : Not Proton/Perodua
2. Budget : 40k - 60k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : As long as it's not basic spec
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : Don't understand
7. Type : Prefer Sedan, but hatchback still acceptable (As long as it's not too small)
8. Remarks : A car that can last for at least 5 years. After will might consider buy
new car...

Thanks in advance !!! smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
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mitsuoton lanspira
*runs away*

**honestly thats what i would get if i had 50-60k....**
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post Mar 23 2016, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 23 2016, 05:35 PM)
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : RM100K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Either
4. Specs : Full Spec 
5. Transmission : Naturally Auto
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : Looking to know what are the best options for a sports car (to be used as a 2nd car for good fun times). Hopefully something that does not have a very expensive road tax
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ayam not an expert... but if i had that $ (and assuming only 5 years old or newer, since you dont seem to want to spend that much on upkeep)

these would be in my list
crz - easy to jaga, looks good
civic-R (fd/fn) - has the performance
volester - looks sporty, not truely a performance oriented car
kia koup - all looks no go
scirocco/golf - i wonder bout the maintanance
mazda 3 MPS - dont know peanuts about this...
208 - dirt cheap for such a new car, looks good, powerful, maintenance on the other hand... ermm

the hondas would be my top picks

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post Mar 25 2016, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(theobserver @ Mar 24 2016, 02:49 PM)
hi sifus, need some recommendation for a car.

1. Brand : any except proton if possible
2. Budget : maximum 120k
3. New/Used/Unreg : new / unreg
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : 4 seater and ahead
8. Remarks :
- car with good suspension, comfy , less road nice, good pickup, nice interior and features, good resale value. A

Any advice on latest honda city and vios ? I am open to all makers . Kindly give nice suggestion thanks
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just a random point.... the city and vios are priced way lower than ur budget
city is a good all rounder....
with that budget you could squeeze a teana i think.... but resale aint great
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post Mar 28 2016, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(officeBoy @ Mar 27 2016, 10:39 PM)
Thanks for reply !

I owned Altis which is sedan and thinking to get a car like mpv, Caldina look cool to me smile.gif, worry on maintenance cost  confused.gif

Also thinking of Suzuki sx4 crossback , budget should not more than 50k smile.gif
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caldina isnt the cheapest car to run or maintain since its slightly performance oriented~~ if you worry bout that, just skip that
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post Mar 29 2016, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 29 2016, 01:44 AM)
Thanks for the recommendation. Surprised no German cars were recommended. why would that be so? expensive to maintain?
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there were 2!!

scirocco/golf - again, maintenance might be abit high
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post Mar 29 2016, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 29 2016, 01:28 PM)
LOL somehow VW always falls off my view when its mentioned. I actually meant like BMW / Merc / Audi

A colleague of mine owned a scirocco - it does look good but almost every month its in the workshop and even simple things take like 2 weeks to fix
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audi tt?? duno much bout this car.... but i am very sure maintenance will be a bomb when things do go wrong.... it is pretty old after all
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post Mar 30 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 30 2016, 02:54 AM)
Thats true about the aged TT.

Was wandering anyone here knows about the price to have a S-class W221 model checked by mercedes. (maybe getting a 2nd hand version year 2008) a sales rep from mercedes (Hap Seng Star) Sri Kembangan quoted me an estimated RM2K just to have the car checked only, which i am shocked.

Can anyone share any experience on this?
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lol s class, even the older ones, replacing suspension components already 5 figures....

**but thats s-classlah, those are very high end cars

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post Mar 30 2016, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 30 2016, 10:28 PM)
Just to update and get additional feedback. Saw a W221 model this afternoon. It is a S300L year 2007 with a mileage of approx 80K. Found a workshop in Gombak that could check the car. He found that there was no electronic concern but there was leaking oil and the compressor was louder then it should be indicating a possible issue. Few other parts as well were a problem but fixable. The rear tires were worn and need to be replaced. The rear dust cover for the airmatic was totally torn. But driving the car there is no sound or knocking to be heard.

The Mechanic said it is fixable based on what he can see with an approx cost of RM5- 6K. This does not include the tires & airmatic dust cover replacement which apparently is not possible since it normally comes as an entire set.

as for the bluetooth settings, it seems like only C&C can do it and i was able to speak to a technician from the C&C in batu caves that says it would most likely need an update only and the cost of this check can be about RM300/hour. So he recommends to do the whole car check for about RM1K

So would this car be worth the effort to have it fixed up with the knowledge we have now of its condition? The sale Price of course will have to be reduced due to the work that would need to be done.
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i would ask you......
1)are you planning to keep the car long term? (as in do you care about resale?), if yes, carry on
2)have you worked out the maintenance costs of a car like this?

if all are yes, whether it is worth the effort, solely depends on how much you like the car....
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post Mar 31 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 30 2016, 11:33 PM)
Well the S-Class will be for a long term keep.
as for the maintenance cost - well yes i believe i have reviewed well enough (i hope) and would be comfortable with its wear and tear.

With this specific car that i saw today, well was not expecting those issues. So i guess what concerns me is - if even before buying its already having this issues, wat more will crop up.

And the rear airmatic having its dust covers totally torn is one of the bigger concern - how much dirt may have already gone it and how soon its going to fail
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2nd hand cars, just assume more issues to appear later, but that's normal. How much dust has already entered might be the problem, covering it up should be doable (not familiar with the system, bit is it possible to clean it up or refurbish it?)
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post Apr 4 2016, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(zul_3231 @ Apr 4 2016, 12:20 PM)
i'm looking for good proton wira below below 8k.Any tips on how to check if kereta banjir... thanks a lot thumbup.gif
1. Brand : Proton Wira
2. Budget : 8k and below
3. New/Used/Unreg : of course used maa
4. Specs : Full Spec
5. Transmission : Strictly auto !
6. NA or FI :  FI
7. Type : 4 seater.
8. Remarks : Buying for my parent at kampung..easy to move around and looking for cheap maintenance and reliable.looking for car manufactured around 2003-2005
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- smell it!! take deep whifs.... (they could mask it using air fresheners)
- check the carpeting, see if there are funny stains (they could have cleaned it)
- tarik the seatbelt out panjang panjang, this is one thing people tend not to clean, if it was flooded, u should be able to spot water/mud stains half way through
- check underneath the carpeting & spare tyre area, normal to have some dirt and suff, but if it was flooded and they didnt clean it properly, u will see lots of brown crap
- lots of rust on the underside?
- any other signs, you should be able to spot easily
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post Apr 12 2016, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(looprevil @ Apr 12 2016, 01:56 PM)
how to avoid parts changed or theft car during process buying an used car?
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I cannot brain

1)u are the seller and trying to avoid being robbed when meeting up
- meet in public/near a police station

2)u want to avoid getting a car which has been tampered with (I'm guessing you mean this)
-when buying, make sure you know what you are getting
-when picking up car, double check everything
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post Apr 12 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(rummyey @ Apr 12 2016, 06:12 PM)
1. Brand : Mazda 3 2.0 or Honda Accord 2.0 (Which one will you recommend?)
2. Budget : 60-70k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks : Weekend car.
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Cars from completely different classes...... Hmmm am confused...
So I shall recommend a car from another class as well, a Honda crz
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post Apr 12 2016, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(MOMOchacha @ Apr 6 2016, 08:54 PM)
Thank you bro introduce this kind of cars.
I not interested those too old car, cos i need to drive it to work everyday.
I am worry halfway breakdown then no one can help me.
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Actually the prelude is a pretty easy car to maintain, underneath many mechanical parts are shared with the same gen accord.... But, as you know, 20+ year old car, my opinion is these cars are only suitable for those who are willing to deal with some car issues..... These old sports cars if well maintained are a joy to drive (I dare say better then most new cars today)

I myself drive a 20 yr old protobitshi... It is a bit moody sonetimes but... Ahh such a joy to drive
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post Apr 13 2016, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(looprevil @ Apr 13 2016, 09:41 AM)
first of all, thanks for reply

clearly stated there buying means im the buyer smile.gif

In point (2), thanks for suggestions but there are rather general. One thing i know is to match engine number with car grant. But now since everything can be tampered, so the seller can also fake the car grant and plate number just to sell a stolen car (forgive my wild imagination). How can the buyer validate it or which process can prevent this kind of case?
1.Can we say that buying with bank loan can eliminate this risk since bank will verify the car grant and the engine number etc?
2.Will JPJ do the verification to check whether its a stolen car during transfer of ownership process?
3.Can the buyer do verification himself with JPJ/Polis before putting down the deposit?

Sorry for my over-worried because since most forumers said prevent for scammer when buying used car, so was wondering how the scam works and how to prevent?
Looking for some good heads up, thanks..
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1)dont know.... dont know much about how banks deal with this stuff
2)car grant and the engine number u can check it yourself.... (not sure if u want to check if its the original engine and stuff or you want to make sure its untampered) AND puspakom should also check for you. (if you wana be careful, just check it yourself, usually an easy task) If its been tampered with, and the puspakom officer passes it, something is obviously wrong...
3)at most i think you can check the car's records with the police (and insurance companies i think)


anyway.... if the deal is too good to be true, then you should be wary, otherwise its usually alright. i still think you can double check all this stuff yourself.... its pretty easy to check all this stuff if you know what you are looking for (unless its a modified car, then its history should be vetted before any decisions should be made)


**frankly, its not easy to sell a stolen/clone car without the buyer knowing

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post Apr 13 2016, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(garfieldX @ Apr 13 2016, 01:51 PM)
seem like e46 is a bit costly to maintain (just peek the bmw malaysia club forum and see all of their bills), so it takes me back to Audi. Can i ask what do u think about this Audi A4 '00, the price is unbelievably cheap, so cheap till wonder if this car is busted. What is ur opinion bout very cheap price car like this, is it still a go or need to reconsider 1000x

this poor fag thx for ur help  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

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-seem like e46 is a bit costly to maintain.
I honestly dont think its that exp to maintain. If you do feel that it is exp, then i dont think you should be considering the audi either...

-the price is unbelievably cheap, so cheap till wonder if this car is busted.
also that a4 has no value whatsoever, and is not exactly a popular car... I dont see any harm at taking a loo if you are really interested.... frankly speaking taking a look is also experience....

**i know for a fact that e46's can go for lower than 20, shops are not willing to even offer 20 for a decent 2nd hand unit**
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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Apr 13 2016, 08:43 PM)
I wanted to get some understanding of used car dealers.

Having a touch choice to choose between 2 cars (A w212 2010 E300 local & 2010 E250 UK spec)  had test driven the E250 today all good. so thought will also check out the E300 and then do final decision

The E250 sales guys no issues in managing my request and test drive and all. Did not even ask for deposit b4 test drive.

The E300 sales guy - wah another story..Planned with the dealer for appointment and then he says need to pay security deposit of about RM4K (prefers cash but agreed for a cheque eventually)

Then he says, if we like the test drive and no issues with the inspection but choose not to buy then deposit burn straight. WTF!!

Can dealers actually do this? Is this legal? We all have a right to check in detail and choose right?
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I think that's a rubbish deal for you.... But at least the fella told you about it before hand....

I don't know if its legal or not but as soon as I hear that line, I would just walk away, simple as that
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QUOTE(tekplyrX @ Apr 13 2016, 09:34 PM)
Boss the e46 < 20k is it > 2003 model or the pre-facelift 99-02 models? Really interested in getting one but so far all >= 35k for facelifted models.
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Was talking bout prefacelift models... But I'm sure facelift models won't cost much more... Survey the market, u will notice those selling for above 30k, will either sit there forever or be sold to shops for much less, or just be kept... It may be a BMW, but it is very very old....


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post Apr 13 2016, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Apr 13 2016, 11:11 PM)
For around 40~55K budget,
I was first inclined to look for an NEW Iriz 1.6 MT, but family commented its kinda small.
Recommended USED Preve 1.6 MT instead.

Then while considering the USED Preve 1.6 MT, I thought, why not add a lil extra to get a USED Inspira 1.8 MT instead since the only reason I skip Inspira for Iriz is to lower my budget.

So between these 3,
New Iriz 1.6 MT (+ newer model, + newest tech, - small capacity)
Used Preve 1.6 MT (+ big capacity, - outdated engine? )
Used Inspira 1.8 MT (+ lots of aftermarket parts, + essentially a Mitsu, - clutch problem?)

would love to hear some comments, pros and cons etc from experienced car owner here.
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I can simplify in your case, the inspiration is a better car, but maintenance/running costs will be higher..... Being an inspira, lost of them are modified? Best is to look for one as original as possible (slight mods are okay, but to reduce risks, avoid those that have been messed with)

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Apr 14 2016, 12:16 AM)
Well we inquired hard and try to get him to come to a reasonable term (if its only like 100 /200 would not have mind as much but to burn 4K just because i like another car a little more then his its bonkers)

He eventually gave us the ultimatum and said he does not want to proceed. But its so annoying. He is being ridiculous with the demand i personally feel.
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Many cars out there, if its rediculous, just look at another, take your time if you can when looking for a car

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