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post Jun 3 2016, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 04:25 PM)
urgh... i guess if you want to arrange it in that way.....not sre why the waja ad cps neo are together and not sure where the perdana is....

if u ask me...
neo lotus ed>neo other performance editions>inspira>neor3=satria r3/gti=putra=c99>cfe loaded buggers>neo cps>insert the array of recent campro buggers>perdana>wira=satria=saga=iswara
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1st best proton current car are preve cfe,suprima cfe and exora cfe since inspira is not longer in production.
obviously inspira and satria gti the best car in proton 2nd are preve cfe,suprima cfe and exora cfe 3rd are proton waja cps and 4g18 and satria neo cps iriz mt and exora cps 4th are wira and perdana and gen 2 cps and 5th is saga 1985,iswara and lmst. i think that cfe is the best engine that proton has produce even though it has some minor problems

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 04:25 PM)
urgh... i guess if you want to arrange it in that way.....not sre why the waja ad cps neo are together and not sure where the perdana is....

if u ask me...
neo lotus ed>neo other performance editions>inspira>neor3=satria r3/gti=putra=c99>cfe loaded buggers>neo cps>insert the array of recent campro buggers>perdana>wira=satria=saga=iswara
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the reason why i put waja cps and 4g18 and satria neo cps over perdana because of its luxurious seat

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post Jun 3 2016, 03:39 PM

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[quote=digilife,Jun 3 2016, 04:29 PM]
I would say that Wira is best in its class, you cant compare a Wira with Preve cause time factor matters.

Me poorfag have been driving my 1.5 GL Manual Wira since 1997 [ bought new ] , yes, its well past 19 years already , clocked 250,000km , what have I replaced over these years , a few sets of Timing Belt Kit, 1# Rear absorber set [ oem made in China Wira 1.6L for the height ] , 2# water pump , 1# radiator , 3#Denso air-cond cooling coil , a set of ignition wires , one set of manual gear change cable , a few sets of spark plug , oil filters & air filters. Front absorber set is still Original , exhaust system still using original too. I wonder how may Prever can match it ?

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wira is not a bad car but saga flx and blm and fl persona campro and iamf+ and waja campro and gen 2 campro iamf+ are even worse than wira

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post Jun 3 2016, 04:26 PM

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changed my answer abit... only in stock standard form would i leave the standings in that order, modified form, pls no
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:26 PM)
changed my answer abit... only in stock standard form would i leave the standings in that order, modified form, pls no
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how to arrange standings in standard order?

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:26 PM)
changed my answer abit... only in stock standard form would i leave the standings in that order, modified form, pls no
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can you please arrange your best proton car in order thanks?
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post Jun 3 2016, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 3 2016, 04:30 PM)
can you please arrange your best proton car in order thanks?
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y u no read... both orders are there...
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post Jun 3 2016, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:44 PM)
y u no read... both orders are there...
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eo lotus ed>neo other performance editions>inspira>neor3=satria r3/gti=putra=c99>cfe loaded buggers>neo cps>insert the array of recent campro buggers>perdana>wira=satria=saga=iswara
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neo = inspira > gti,c99,putra >rest need not be mentioned. ok i know but first ,i have to change my rank of proton cars 1. neo and inspira 2nd gti,c99 and putra you want me to rank like that right?
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:44 PM)
y u no read... both orders are there...
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i mean in terms of nvh suprima s cfe is clearly better than preve cfe but exora cfe get credit in terms of nvh

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post Jun 3 2016, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 3 2016, 02:02 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
This Lancer is based on the Cedia platform while the previous Lancer (Wira/Satria/Putra/etc) were based on the Mirage platform. You can read on the information here. The Waja isn't exactly based on this platform but do have many elements from it as that period on Proton wanted to go their own way to make their own car from the ground up. Later models such as Gen2 and Persona was based on the Waja, but I don't think there are many compatible parts between Lancer GLX and Persona.

QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 3 2016, 02:49 PM)
1st best proton current car are preve cfe,suprima cfe and exora cfe since inspira is not longer in production.
obviously inspira and satria gti the best car in proton 2nd are preve cfe,suprima cfe and exora cfe 3rd are proton waja cps and 4g18 and satria neo cps 4th is  wira and 5th is saga 1985,iswara and lmst. i think that cfe is the  best engine that proton has produce even though it has some minor problems
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I wouldn't say the Inspira/Satria GTI were the best ever from Proton.
Putra was pretty decent for it's time, plus it was similar to Inspira being more of a rebadge only.
Satria R3 was also a good effort.
Satria Neo Lotus Edition manages to bring the spirit of Satria GTI into today's market. However, in terms of sales it didn't manage to capture the hearts and minds of people like the Satria GTI.

If you ask me the best ever overall car from Proton will always be the Satria GTI, it had everything in terms of performance, affordable maintenance, tasteful bodykit, excellent handling, sold in good numbers, and was able to reach the hearts and minds of the masses. Back in the day a college kid driving a brand new Satria GTI was as good as driving a Honda Civic TypeR the girls would rush out to see it and try and get a ride, of course this behavior faded in time when the car became more mainstream but it still viewed as an affordable sports car from a local manufacturer which is actually good.

Later on all the other's like R3, Special Edition, Lotus edition, etc. were basically either conjobs or niche limited edition models that didn't really capture the spirit of the original Satria GTI.

To say Suprima/Preve/Exora is the best now is true and false at the same time.
They are the best Proton has in it's stable now.
But that's like saying eventhough you scored a C in an exam but you're no.1 because you're the only one in that classroom.

On paper Suprima/Preve/Exora can rival european cars, example....

Golf TSI vs Suprima
Turbo engine: Yes
More than 2 airbags: Yes
Traction control: Yes
DRL: Yes
Touch screen entertainment system: Yes

but when you look into the details you'll see why the Golf is so much more expensive.

Golf has ISOFIX seats.
The entertainment system and touch screen on the golf is more responsive and has more features.
Aircon is automatic with climate control.
etc.

QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 3 2016, 03:29 PM)
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it is a dependable and solid car to keep around as a spare car.
if it is well maintained without issues no point to sell it off.
only problem for me is that for an everyday driver car it lacks alot of safety features found in cars today.


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post Jun 3 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 3 2016, 07:49 PM)
This Lancer is based on the Cedia platform while the previous Lancer (Wira/Satria/Putra/etc) were based on the Mirage platform. You can read on the information here. The Waja isn't exactly based on this platform but do have many elements from it as that period on Proton wanted to go their own way to make their own car from the ground up. Later models such as Gen2 and Persona was based on the Waja, but I don't think there are many compatible parts between Lancer GLX and Persona.
I wouldn't say the Inspira/Satria GTI were the best ever from Proton.
Putra was pretty decent for it's time, plus it was similar to Inspira being more of a rebadge only.
Satria R3 was also a good effort.
Satria Neo Lotus Edition manages to bring the spirit of Satria GTI into today's market. However, in terms of sales it didn't manage to capture the hearts and minds of people like the Satria GTI.

If you ask me the best ever overall car from Proton will always be the Satria GTI, it had everything in terms of performance, affordable maintenance, tasteful bodykit, excellent handling, sold in good numbers, and was able to reach the hearts and minds of the masses. Back in the day a college kid driving a brand new Satria GTI was as good as driving a Honda Civic TypeR the girls would rush out to see it and try and get a ride, of course this behavior faded in time when the car became more mainstream but it still viewed as an affordable sports car from a local manufacturer which is actually good.

Later on all the other's like R3, Special Edition, Lotus edition, etc. were basically either conjobs or niche limited edition models that didn't really capture the spirit of the original Satria GTI.

To say Suprima/Preve/Exora is the best now is true and false at the same time.
They are the best Proton has in it's stable now.
But that's like saying eventhough you scored a C in an exam but you're no.1 because you're the only one in that classroom.

On paper Suprima/Preve/Exora can rival european cars, example....

Golf TSI vs Suprima
Turbo engine: Yes
More than 2 airbags: Yes
Traction control: Yes
DRL: Yes
Touch screen entertainment system: Yes

but when you look into the details you'll see why the Golf is so much more expensive.

Golf has ISOFIX seats.
The entertainment system and touch screen on the golf is more responsive and has more features.
Aircon is automatic with climate control.
etc.
it is a dependable and solid car to keep around as a spare car.
if it is well maintained without issues no point to sell it off.
only problem for me is that for an everyday driver car it lacks alot of safety features found in cars today.
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i agree with you but do not forget iriz mt which is one of the best proton car in proton right now
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:07 PM

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Hehe satria neo lotus ed I was talking about is the souped up 100+k limited edition model hehe, the car us quite a lot quicker than that standard versions

IMO iris is a sillyish car (100% my opinion, maybe cause it doesn't appeal to me whatsoever)
-it looks funky.... (Front is OK I guess, butt is ugly)
-it ain't got the power
-its fc is apparently not as great as claimed
-rear space abit cramp
-it ain't as fun to drive as a neo (to be fair, dif class so that's alright...)
-safety, fine there's that going for it



I like this quote
"To say Suprima/Preve/Exora is the best now is true and false at the same time.
They are the best Proton has in it's stable now.
But that's like saying eventhough you scored a C in an exam but you're no.1 because you're the only one in that classroom."


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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 3 2016, 06:49 PM)

it is a dependable and solid car to keep around as a spare car.
if it is well maintained without issues no point to sell it off.
only problem for me is that for an everyday driver car it lacks alot of safety features found in cars today.
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You are spot-on on my old trusted Wira.

Yes, it lacked safety features compared to Preve, but again in the nineties not much budget Japs car comes with safety features too. But then again, driving is a risk & even if your car have all the safety features, shit does happen. I once kena knocked by a student driving an Iswara from the side, rear left passenger side & my Wira spins a few rounds but just did not not overturn [ maybe due to Wira's low profile on factory 13" rims + standard 175/70 tyres. damage only to the external body of my Wira but not to my wife & myself, just shaken with the impact. It was on the 6 lanes highway in front of Kg Pinang Tambahan[ KL ] & luckily not much car was around that area that time , only another car, a W124 was grazed on the side from the student's carelessness. sweat.gif


Btw,regarding the changes to insurance premium, when will it commence & what major changes will take place ?




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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 3 2016, 08:15 PM)
You are spot-on on my old trusted Wira.

Yes, it lacked safety features compared to  Preve,  but again in the nineties not much budget Japs car comes with safety features too. But then again, driving is a risk & even if your car have all the safety features, shit does happen. I once kena knocked by a student driving an Iswara from the side, rear left passenger side & my Wira spins a few rounds  but just did not not overturn [ maybe due to Wira's low profile on factory 13" rims + standard 175/70 tyres. damage only to the external body of my Wira but not to my wife & myself, just shaken with the impact. It was on the 6 lanes highway in front of Kg Pinang Tambahan[ KL ] & luckily not much car was around that area that time , only another car, a W124 was grazed on the side from the student's carelessness.  sweat.gif
Btw,regarding the changes to insurance premium, when will it commence & what major changes will take place ?
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Wira can just simpanlah, unless everything happens to be at once or if your car is rusty...

Bout the insurance bit, I would also like to know more.... All I know is they gona slaughter me.... cry.gif
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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 3 2016, 07:26 PM)
i agree with you but do not forget iriz mt which is one of the best proton car in proton right now
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How come to you everything also "one of the best" confused.gif
The only thing good about it is the safety features and asking price.
Maintenance, performance, and fuel efficiency still needs to be improved further.
Iriz is a B-segment same as Saga BLM.
However, both cars have different strengths while the Iriz is newer and has more tech trying to gun for Korean/Japanese makes, the Saga being true to its roots has maintained itself to be the cheap and low maintenance people's car. And looking at our roads the Saga has been successful, however the Iriz is a borderline failure usually by now after a Proton model has been launched we should see it everywhere but we don't.

QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 3 2016, 08:15 PM)
You are spot-on on my old trusted Wira.

Yes, it lacked safety features compared to  Preve,  but again in the nineties not much budget Japs car comes with safety features too. But then again, driving is a risk & even if your car have all the safety features, shit does happen. I once kena knocked by a student driving an Iswara from the side, rear left passenger side & my Wira spins a few rounds  but just did not not overturn [ maybe due to Wira's low profile on factory 13" rims + standard 175/70 tyres. damage only to the external body of my Wira but not to my wife & myself, just shaken with the impact. It was on the 6 lanes highway in front of Kg Pinang Tambahan[ KL ] & luckily not much car was around that area that time , only another car, a W124 was grazed on the side from the student's carelessness.  sweat.gif
Btw,regarding the changes to insurance premium, when will it commence & what major changes will take place ?
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General information about insurance you can click here..
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QUOTE(PuDing92 @ Jun 4 2016, 09:53 PM)
how about E300 year 2009++ ?

ignoring the fuel and roadtax+insurance,

how reliable is this unit ?
http://www.mudah.my/2009+Mercedes+Benz+E30...A+-46248923.htm
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if ron97 fuel, maintenance, roadtax and insurance isn't an issue.
then this is a rock solid car.
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Hi. looking to get a second hand car for highway commute

1. Brand :Japanese
2. Budget. 20k
3. Used
4. Specs. Nothing specific
5. Transmission. : automatic
6. NA or FI ? Any
7. Type. Sedab
8. Remarks. Low maintenance cost, easy to get spare parts.

Is the Nissan sentra good?
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post Jun 5 2016, 11:49 AM

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hi all,

wanna to buy Preve, but the p1 SA said he know one second hand car dealer, ask me to go negotiate with them myself.. since we have to nego ourselves, why they put a "tinggi trade-in" in their brochure...

Car going to let go:
P2 Viva 850 (M), year 2009, genetic silver

Anyone here familiar with second hand car dealers at Melaka? Plan to find dealer myself this round icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(spiritz09 @ Jun 5 2016, 11:49 AM)
hi all,

wanna to buy Preve, but the p1 SA said he know one second hand car dealer, ask me to go negotiate with them myself.. since we have to nego ourselves, why they put a "tinggi trade-in" in their brochure...

Car going to let go:
P2 Viva 850 (M), year 2009, genetic silver

Anyone here familiar with second hand car dealers at Melaka? Plan to find dealer myself this round icon_question.gif
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jual sendiri direct to buyer if you want the most from your car.
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post Jun 6 2016, 11:20 PM

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1. Brand - Honda
2. Budget - less than RM60k - 70k
3. New/Used/Unreg - Used
4. Specs - 1.5 / 1.8 (or 2.0, but thats kinda stretching it a little)
5. Transmission - auto
6. NA or FI - No preference
7. Type - sedan
8. Remarks - Will be my first car, going out of uni soon with a degree, expected salary of rm3k

Preference:

http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/2279528/20...ike-new-08.html

Real talk, will i be able to afford the maintanence and running costs of a Civic FD / FD2 with this income? I know its kind of
delusional of me, but hey a guy can dream right? Thanks

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