Was talking bout prefacelift models... But I'm sure facelift models won't cost much more... Survey the market, u will notice those selling for above 30k, will either sit there forever or be sold to shops for much less, or just be kept... It may be a BMW, but it is very very old....

I can simplify in your case, the inspiration is a better car, but maintenance/running costs will be higher..... Being an inspira, lost of them are modified? Best is to look for one as original as possible (slight mods are okay, but to reduce risks, avoid those that have been messed with)

Well we inquired hard and try to get him to come to a reasonable term (if its only like 100 /200 would not have mind as much but to burn 4K just because i like another car a little more then his its bonkers)

He eventually gave us the ultimatum and said he does not want to proceed. But its so annoying. He is being ridiculous with the demand i personally feel.

Aiyo between those 3 choices Mark X is so much better that is laughable that you even compare them together!

Yes I know. Just thinking whether it is value for money or not. Mark X is trading at 60-65 le... 😅

Many cars out there, if its rediculous, just look at another, take your time if you can when looking for a car

For 60k budget, you can get at max 2006 car. If you're not used to choosing and maintaining relatively old cars then yeah, that's a concern. Anyway I still suggest you to test drive some.

Camry or altis.

the only due diligence you can do is...
1. check the number plate with JPJ and PDRM if it is stolen
2. buy from reputable seller, not some seller by the road side with less than 10 cars

fyi stolen cars are usually chopped for parts
too much hassle to sell as one piece

Firstly you need to decide what you really need.
1. Type of vehicle needed - MPV or Hatchback (e.g. people with twins rather just buy mpv for more space because everything is doubled up).
2. Purchase budget.
3. Maintenance budget.

Only after you answer these 3 then you can start to choose brands, models, and other benefits like warranty.
Based on your post it seems warranty is important thus 8 year warranty is a clear winner.
But is that what you really want/need?

I've been having second thoughts on the Sylphy nowadays since I found out that the ATF cooler cannot be installed onto this car as a cheap fix for the CVT overheating and thus is part of the reason for the CVT failure. The only solution is changing the CVT oil more regularly and driving the car less aggressively. Which I feel eventhough it is cheap to buy and maintain but this problem with the gearbox is something I cannot ignore anymore.

You're mostly right with the Ford Fiesta the problem with the clutch is one thing that had made it abit dodgy to buy second hand, worst still it is a DCT type of gearbox which requires special oil, i've heard nightmare stories of people trying to save cost use normal gearbox oil then complain to Ford why the gearbox fail.

2013 Honda Civic Hybrid - the trend of hybrids resale value in malaysia is still pretty bad, as you can see you can buy a current model Honda Civic Hybrid for around the price of the previous generation of Honda Civic "normal". If I am not mistaken Honda Hybrid's are all imported from Japan and carry a 5 years warranty so this 2013 car should still have warranty until 2018 but please double check the documents with the seller if this is true or not. If it is true then you can buy without much worry as the warranty should cover you if there are any problems (especially if the car has no modifications and is stock condition). IMA part prices are reduced alot so don't worry much about it costing RM20k to replace stuff. IMHO better just use RM8k to put in a 2000cc honda K20 engine

2012 Honda Civic 1.8SL - if u worry about the hybrid then of course this budget means u can buy the previous generation, and although it is imho better than the current gen in terms of looks as the hardware is pretty much the same, bear in mind the new civic is coming soon so if you choose this one you'll be 3 generations behind when the new model comes out this year or next year. No major issues on the civic it's a car that will fulfill all your requirements.

It is a solid car and depreciation probably has hit it's maximum thus it's value shouldn't drop like a rock anymore. The only issue with Ford Focus is that although as a used market car it is cheap and gives great value to buyers since it has features that are better than other japanese C-segments of that time -- it has better handling, rear passenger aircon, steptronic type gearbox, etc. Make sure you find one that doesn't have any problems as repairs are one reason why people usually sell on these cars. I used to have a Ford Lynx RS it was a real fun car and quite the beast since those days C-segments getting 2000cc engines weren't the norm but of course all that power, good handling, etc. requires better hardware and thus when parts need to be replaced the bill can become scary. Changing the bushings and major maintenance will set you back over RM2000

If you think the BMW is expensive then don't touch Audi, it potentially could be much more expensive because there are much more fewer Audi's on the road than BMW's which means lesser incentive for stockist/distributors to bring in parts and sell them cheap, lower volume sales usually means higher prices for better margins coz the seller have to keep the stock and wait for Audi owners to buy which is fewer and far between than say if he import Honda parts from Japan for Accords that will surely fly off the shelves.

Ford Focus is a good car but again parts are expensive, for an example a coil pack for a local assembled car like Proton Neo/Persona would be under RM300 but for Ford Focus it would be in the ballpark price of RM700-800, and of course other Japanese makes are somewhere in between. You can probably get away with cheap maintenance under RM200 if it is just changing consumables like engine oil, oil filter, air filter, etc. but when it comes to other parts like when your aircon starts to malfunction that is where the bills start to pile up for these "cold" cars.

Owning is conti isn't going to be cheap, the cars that are cheaper to buy potentially the parts are more expensive and the car isn't supported well in malaysia, if the car is expensive (even old) like mercedes it is because it is relatively cheaper to maintain and well supported.

In a nutshell conti's are expensive to own no matter how you flip the coin of purchase price and upkeep.

2006 Mazda6 - if you're looking for good performance, good looks, better equipment level, better handling but don't mind paying a bit more in terms of maintenance than getting a boring Accord or Camry then you should look at maybe something like a Mazda6 or Toyota Mark X. Mazda spec their cars pretty well nowadays which is why they are able to capture back a big chunk of market share in a short time, while not over pricing their cars.

great review

u r welcomed.

I dunno why you even want to deal with such people.
If they're not interested in doing the sales then find another dealer, I'm sure he is not the only dealer with an E300 in the entire country.

For my pro-tip click on the spoiler.


Actually Mark X, Accord and Camry that are valued abut 60k are pretty much the same year make around 2004-2007. See the review above for Mark X, it's a damn good car for the price.

If you're not a car person or lazy or rich then don't consider a conti, it will not be justified.

If you have the budget for Inspira then go for it.
I've explained the benefits the Inspira before and the benefits it is essentially a CKD Mitsubishi Lancer and parts network of an entire planet since Mitsubishi produces cars and parts all over the world. So of course because the Lancer is being sold worldwide Mitsubishi itself, OEM's and manufacturer of compatible parts are willing to make parts and support that model for a long time and because of that volume parts are competitively priced too.

We've yet to see how long Proton is willing to support models which is 100% their own technology and what price it would be when the cars get older, who knows if you choose Proton you might be locked to only get parts from Proton or their OEM's -- in such a case it is very easy for them to do price control thus prices essentially don't get cheaper over time.

zenix

Read back & found your review.

Thanks





This post has been edited by digilife: Apr 14 2016, 01:24 PM

much bagus protip!

1. Brand : Japanese car
2. Budget : 70-80k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used/new
4. Specs : less than 1.8L
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :
7. Type : Sedan/hatchback
8. Remarks : Use for city and highway

Im in dilemma on whether choosing NEW Honda City/Jazz or USED honda civic/crz. I already owned a vios so no no for vios.

Any sifu here pls help and just let me know if you have any other better car model which low fuel consume and low maintenance

u r welcomed

1. Brand : Nissan March
2. Budget : 30k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used
4. Specs : Full Spec
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : FI
7. Type : 4 seater.
8. Remarks : this is very rare to get any info in any forum malaysia. I want to know the spare part is it same like nissan grand livina? I found in lelong, the airfilter and breakpad is same with nissan grand livina. So like this car since 2005, but there is not affordable to get this cutie bk home.

1. Brand : any
2. Budget : RM20k below
3. New/Used/Unreg : Both can
4. Specs :
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : ?
7. Type :
8. Remarks : Any car eligible for grabcar and uber driver, grabcar says any car newer than 2010, under need to be inspected, larger than viva or equal myvi and axia, uber no info

You wan to be grab car driver? Last week i was in FB saw some plp gving some info, waja, kerisa, kenari gen 2 is not acceptable.

call them up/visit and talk to them 1st....

This seems worth to check out if you live around KL coz this is a Sports Package (with black interior).
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Mark+X+2+5+AT+I...0816.htm?last=1

Really need help,
I am torn between 2 options, civic 2007 vs city 2011, with budget around 50K.
any suggestion???

Appreciate for your feedback....
Note: Change my mind, better sedan instead of suv

This post has been edited by chocky14: Apr 17 2016, 04:52 PM