and it's the ugly boxy two round front lights version

Depends on your need.

Is a Ferrari good? yes.
Is a Toyota good? yes.

But does it fit your requirement? That's a big question which can only be answered with input from you.
Sometimes even cars people might think are terrible might be good for someone because everyone's requirements is unique (budget vs requirement).

I'm assuming you're talking about the current gen of Lancer and Lancer Evo X, correct?
There are many differences between Lancer and Lancer Evo.
Common parts could be window glass i'm guessing cause everything else had been upgraded to withstand a turbo engine thus simple things like radiator wouldn't be the same (i could be wrong).
Simply put a Japanese sports car maintenance would be in the ballpark region of a BMW 3-series/Merc C-Class/Audi A4.

If you're looking for a car with a bit of fun and maintenance that won't hurt your pocket which doesn't use a CVT then Mazda 3 Skyactiv is the car for you as the Skyactiv initiative not only helps to save fuel but it was a total designed of everything from chassis design, gearbox design, engine design, etc.

Want to know more about Mazda's gearbox? click here


I think Latio could give you similar or better posture than Myvi.
Better head room would be from mpv like Avanza but that's real ugly and not too good for outstation trips.

1)DIY experts aka kiamsap kings
2) Technical spec/data expert variant 1 aka always finding compatible parts to reduce maintenance cost
3) AMBP103% perfectionist aka manufacturer cultist fap boys everything 100% stock from 3S or better
4) DGADG aka lucky not to get a lemon but always laugh at people spend so much on maintenance
5) Budget orientated aka buddies of (1) and (2) but don't believe in (4)
6) HBAEDCNMP aka taukeh babi so free everyday also at workshop and sometimes "part time" help them fix other people car simple problem like puncture tire so they focus on fixing his "sports car"
7) Poison king aka buddies of (2) and (6) always importing JDM/USDM stuff like bodykit, rims, turbo kits, etc. most of his stuff are expensive and cut throat price but (2), (3) and (6) say its the best -- if u kenot afford u is poor fag like (1) & (5).
8) Car boot sale guy aka not as hardcore as (7) but have enough interesting accessories and used parts at an affordable price for (1) & (5).

and it's the ugly boxy two round front lights version
if its the gtv i actually really like that car i drool looking at it.... alfas v6 is eargasm


1)DIY experts aka kiamsap kings
- haha lucky some of them can do a good job! (1) and (2) very usually stuck together or one and the same cause they actually really know the car well
2) Technical spec/data expert variant 1 aka always finding compatible parts to reduce maintenance cost
3) AMBP103% perfectionist aka manufacturer cultist fap boys everything 100% stock from 3S or better
4) DGADG aka lucky not to get a lemon but always laugh at people spend so much on maintenance
5) Budget orientated aka buddies of (1) and (2) but don't believe in (4)
6) HBAEDCNMP aka taukeh babi so free everyday also at workshop and sometimes "part time" help them fix other people car simple problem like puncture tire so they focus on fixing his "sports car"
7) Poison king aka buddies of (2) and (6) always importing JDM/USDM stuff like bodykit, rims, turbo kits, etc. most of his stuff are expensive and cut throat price but (2), (3) and (6) say its the best -- if u kenot afford u is poor fag like (1) & (5).
8) Car boot sale guy aka not as hardcore as (7) but have enough interesting accessories and used parts at an affordable price for (1) & (5).


haha very comprehensive list i think i fall into (5) but.... on the poor side

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : preferably < 80K, at most 100k but don't want to resort to that
3. New/Used/Unreg : Doesn't matters.
4. Specs : Don't matter
5. Transmission : Auto will do
7. Type : Coupe/ Fun car to drive.
8. Remarks : Looking for something fun to drive and look at as well, preferably cheap to maintain. Am looking at CRZ/ Veloster (really wanted the turbo version but no second hand yet as far as I know). Any other suggestions that similar to these?

Coupe/ Fun car to drive + auto.... mana boleh T_T

copy paste
crz - easy to jaga, looks good, slow (but slow does not mean not fun)
civic-R (fd/fn) - has the performance (manual, sounds like a win to me)
volester - looks sporty, not truely a performance oriented car
kia koup - all looks no go
mazda 3 MPS - dont know peanuts about this...
scirocco/golf - i would worry abit bout the maintenance (though owners say its good)
208 - dirt cheap for such a new car, looks good, powerful, maintenance on the other hand... ermm
*euro r is another car, but dont know what you can get for that $*

much older cars
-celica - cheap and cheerful, has somewhat 'adequate' performance but old
-altezza - also cheapish and cheerful, rwd platform
-old scooby/evo - maintenance will be high
-old e46 coupe (i really liked this)

the hondas would be my top picks

Best among the rest. Its in my wish list, looking for a good one if its available for sale.

Btw, will the maintenance kill my wallet ?

I myself will much prefer a manual car as well, but considering that this will be my everyday drive with at least 2 hr stuck in traffic everyday from both going to work and coming back home, i think i will be glad i chose auto at the first place.

as for civic-r, which year do you think i can get with that kind of budget?

and for scirocco, there is no problem with the gear/ car in general? and how much would it be for normal maintenance work done with the dealership (considering the car still have any warranty whatsoever).

i wouldnt really consider a peugeot car,, as my parent has a 408 turbo and i kinda traumatized with the problem i had with the car.

http://www.mudah.my/Nissan+Latio+1+8+A+KIN...WN-43896992.htm

is this an OK price? the car price like goreng until really low.

i think its actually possible to get the earlier batch models for 100k+ (with a small plus) before... could just be clickbait, but i really think that if the owner is desperate, 110k is possible (otherwise find an fn2, also looks good but seems abit smaller)... i tought u didnt want a manual.... type-r's are manuals.... imo a low cost fun car = crz... very decent nippy car

peugeot yeah.... friend bought a car round the same time as me, (last year @30+k) 308t, tranny kaput... wah the bill ended up costing around half the value of the car..... teruk~

really depends on what is considered expensive to you hehe.... as i am learning, rare cars, sometimes parts can be difficult to source (those parts that are different that is)... mechanically speaking, its just like any other e46, iirc even the driveshafts are shared (dont take my word for it, am not expert in this model)

i liked these conti cars, clk230, e36/46 coupes, fiat coupes, 147/156(must be v6) but in the end i went with the old reliable japs

Mazda 3 also not bad will take into consideration. But still I'm thinking what about the maintenance costs? How much for a twin clutch SST gearbox to replace if happen to get a lemon unit? Turbo can last how long before the bearing totally wear off?

Some people evolve from many of the types of people above
Many (3) end up become (5)

GTV not Spyder
Imho its ugly but yeah the engine is pure italian heritage worth the TLC.

When people say fun car yet cheap to maintain it automatically filters out really nice cars like

2012 Ford Focus TDCI - because it needs a little extra TLC because ford parts aren't cheap and diesel turbo needs fuel filters and injectors replaced regularly due to lower quality diesel fuel in Malaysia.

2011 Merc CLK280 - it is a Merc maintenance is never cheap even if you're budget conscious and find the cheapest parts and mechanic to service your car. It can be double to triple the amount needed to maintain a CRZ/Veloster. But such a rare car with prestige at this price range don't come often.

2008 Nissan Skyline - because 3500cc roadtax and insurance is a killer even-though maintenance is livable.

Here are a few picks from me for you base on your requirements other than the stated duo.

2008 Mini Cooper S - they're common enough that most workshops can handle the most mundane maintenance for these cars only the real problematic stuff you'll need to bring it back to a 3S or specialist else any workshop will do and part prices are fairly decent for a conti sports car as the prince engine in this car is on a shared platform as Peugeot and Citroen. However, you should read about the problems owners have faced with the prince engine before final decision. LMGTFY

2008 VW Golf GTI - like the engine but think the styling is outdated since it is 2gen ago from the current model? How about something with the same engine and gearbox but has another body? 2009 VW Eos is basically the same car but with a retractable roof that automatically folds and hides into the boot. It is a rarer model on the market thus if you want to look cool without higher maintenance this would be a good choice as it shares the same 2.0turbo & 6speed DSG as the Scirocco, Golf, etc.

2010 Mitsu Sportsback - basically it is a Lancer in a hatchback/stationwagon combo body with a bigger 2.4cc engine thus a c-segment car getting a d-segment engine = fun. Maintenance is above your average C-segment because of the larger engine but not by that much since there is a large amount of cross-over parts shared with the Lancer.

If you want something powerful on a budget then the Sportsback is the clear winner, however if the criteria mush be cheap to maintain and fun to drive (not powerful) with a coupe body then CRZ/Veloster would be good options due to them being just regular B-segment engine/gearbox/cars in a coupe body, however if the criteria is coupe body/relatively cheap to maintain/powerful then you can consider the Eos but it is older than the other options.

Yeah, Latio's are usually in the 30k-50k range depending on year make, spec and mileage. I usually use Mudah.my to look for case examples because it has a pretty fast search engine -- i kind of hate the new look of oto.my, motortrader and carlist but if you're to seriously look for a car you should use those as for the most part they are paid advertisements thus only genuine sellers and used car dealers would pay for the advertisement to get customers. Mudah has a high chance is bumping into a scammer because anyone can post an advertisement for free.

These are ballpark figures thus not entirely accurate.

Replacement SST gearbox from Mitsubishi = 1/3 the price of a new Lancer Evo X
Used chop shop condition = RM15k upwards
Used reconditioned = RM30k upwards
Full rebuilt = RM8500 upwards (I don't know any local shop that can repair an SST, I got this figure and made the currency conversion from here.)

How long the turbo last depends on usage application and mileage. Normal driving it should follow the schedule maintenance in the owners manual. Normal driving includes occasional speeding and long distance trips, when you bring it to a track for a few laps that would kill parts on the car faster than going full throttle from KL to Penang.

Like I said before maintenance is on par with getting an entry level German car with turbo like CLA, 3-series, etc.

2005 Maserati Grand Sport Coupe 4.2 V8 - talking abut rare look at what I found, doesn't get much rarer than this on our roads, this is an absolute master piece but most malaysians won't understand it. the typical malaysian sports car buyer will ask...

1) cheap to maintain ah?
Duh! rare cars like this can probably be counted with only 10 fingers or less in malaysia, expect it to be cheap?

2) powerful or not?
Yes! it is powerful but it isn't the kind of cars to bring for track days or traffic light racing coz you don't like the car tailgating behind you. It is the sort of car with such a smooth engine and musical exhaust you'd wanna slowly drive around Bangsar, Pavillion, Bukit Bintang, etc. a few rounds to show off, it's much happier going full throttle on the highway from JB to PG, or leisurely drive on twisty coastal roads with a sexy lady beside you.

3) fuel efficiency good or not?
its's a 4.2cc v8 bro what u expect? Kancil 660 fc?
it might be a gas guzzler but you do it in style, but since it is an italian and not american v8, it is most likely efficient but the perspective is it is efficient for a 3500cc to 4500cc engine but it is not going to fight fuel economy figures with mundane cars below 3500cc.

end of the day they will give a smart ass reply like....aiyah 170k can buy recon VW Golf GTI also very fast what and cheap to fix



This post has been edited by zenix: Apr 21 2016, 12:41 PM

ahhhh !!!!



shield my eyes.... ohh wait its alright, my wallet gives me immunity from these cars hehehehe

this is on whole another level or rare.... its all about the perspective

2006 Honda Legend 3.5 - found this nice unregistered model which you can still buy at new car loan interest rates. maintenance wise it isn't going to be cheap because it's a very rare model in malaysia but being a honda global model getting parts for it shouldn't be an issue from my experience maintaining a Honda Del Sol previously, however this is even more rare so it might be about the same or more difficult -- before buying such a car do talk to your nearby parts stockist and workshop if they can support this car.

People that would want to consider such a car would be people that want a car in the Lexus, BMW 3-series, Merc C-Class, etc. range yet want to stand out by having an outstanding and rare car yet it is more reliable and cheaper to maintain than the German counter parts (probably about the same or more expensive than a Lexus) and we're talking about outside workshops/specialist workshops not authorized service centers here. You can say this range from Honda is on the same level as Lexus (Toyota) and Infinity (Nissan), while it may also be known as the Acura in some markets.

yeap cars like this gives you Snob Factor Level 99
good for showing off at the golf club or major event.
only vvip's and royalties have such cars.

thats a 4k road tax bill right there..... theres one of the old generation Legend's near my office, very run down but the owner is still driving it! have always wondered if he actually pays taxes for it....

after a certain age they can apply for classic car status for cheaper roadtax.

2012 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1.4 Turbo - how good is the Fiat group's 1.4 turbo anyway? At first I thought they sourced it from VW Group but instead after Googling I found out that the FIRE engine (not Bomba) is 100% their own technology. Seems like a sweet engine but it is one of those i refer to as new generation soulless euro turbo's -- cheap to build, fuel efficient, low carbon emmisions but zero character.

have no idea how good most of these new engines are haha, ill stick to those dinosaur, easy to maintain, cheap old environment hating engines haha

not easy to get classic status,
1)car must be of high value (this is fair)
2)stuff must be original.... compulsory stuff i know off include, engine, steering wheel, rims.... (kay...)
3)should not be modified other than electronics and braking systems or something along those lines (what happens if new brakes are so big, original rims dont fit?)
4)you need to have 3 cars under your name (why!!!??) i guess those guys who want to own a classic car with huge engines can deal with it by going off and buying 2 junkyard kancils and dumping them somewhere behind their house

and every 3 years kene spot check to reapply for the classic car status

Anyhow i'm an old man who just passionate evo and type r. Again thanks for the info.

1. Brand : Japanese car
2. Budget : 70-80k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used/new
4. Specs : less than 1.8L
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI :
7. Type : Sedan/hatchback
8. Remarks : Use for city and highway

Im in dilemma on whether choosing NEW Honda City/Jazz or USED honda civic/crz. I already owned a vios so no no for vios.

Any sifu here pls help and just let me know if you have any other better car model which low fuel consume and low maintenance