I cannot brain

1)u are the seller and trying to avoid being robbed when meeting up
- meet in public/near a police station

2)u want to avoid getting a car which has been tampered with (I'm guessing you mean this)
-when buying, make sure you know what you are getting
-when picking up car, double check everything

Cars from completely different classes...... Hmmm am confused...
So I shall recommend a car from another class as well, a Honda crz

Actually the prelude is a pretty easy car to maintain, underneath many mechanical parts are shared with the same gen accord.... But, as you know, 20+ year old car, my opinion is these cars are only suitable for those who are willing to deal with some car issues..... These old sports cars if well maintained are a joy to drive (I dare say better then most new cars today)

I myself drive a 20 yr old protobitshi... It is a bit moody sonetimes but... Ahh such a joy to drive

Anyone familiar with Toyota Mark X?
I saw some 05' 06' at 60-65k, is it good buy?
No idea on the maintenance, more expensive than Camry/accord? any taikor can comment?

first of all, thanks for reply

clearly stated there buying means im the buyer

In point (2), thanks for suggestions but there are rather general. One thing i know is to match engine number with car grant. But now since everything can be tampered, so the seller can also fake the car grant and plate number just to sell a stolen car (forgive my wild imagination). How can the buyer validate it or which process can prevent this kind of case?
1.Can we say that buying with bank loan can eliminate this risk since bank will verify the car grant and the engine number etc?
2.Will JPJ do the verification to check whether its a stolen car during transfer of ownership process?
3.Can the buyer do verification himself with JPJ/Polis before putting down the deposit?

Sorry for my over-worried because since most forumers said prevent for scammer when buying used car, so was wondering how the scam works and how to prevent?
Looking for some good heads up, thanks..

sorry bro cannot brain

Mazda3 = C-Segment
Accord = D-Segment

it isn't an easy question to answer and depends alot on your expectations.
mazda3 might be cheaper to maintain because it is a C-segment but it will not give you the space, comfort and refinement of a D-segment car like accord.

2014 Citroen DS3 - since it is a weekend car why not go wild for something special. The DS3 coupe in this advert is low mileage and highly depreciated (i think it was somewhere around 130k++ new). In terms of maintenance the secret is this car uses the same 1.6 turbo engine as Mini Cooper S, Peugeot 308, 408, 508, and RCZ. If you can find an outside workshop conti specialist your maintenance will surely be reduced because it is quite a common engine. Plus DS3 doesn't have the fancy and expensive suspension setup. The only expensive thing would be when an accident occurs because body panels and glass are specific for this model only.

2011 Honda CRZ - a fun weekend coupe which is pocket friendly. Basically, it is a B-segment car like Honda Jazz and Honda City in a smaller 2 door body. Maintenance for the punny engine is cheap. If the IMA Hybrid system fails don't worry Honda IMA parts are cheaper nowadays but if you don't care for the IMA Hybrid system you can fit the engine and gearbox of the Honda City/Jazz into the CRZ nicely without any issues. Honda could have done this too but they knew that having a hybrid coupe would help skirt around many tax laws in many countries which is why this little car is so famous for being an affordable "sports car".


If you look around the car listing websites or magazines you'll notice that it's rivals such as 05/06 Honda Accord and 05/06 Toyota Camry are also generally in that price range but usually the Mark X is slightly more expensive to buy because of it's premium status. Generally maintenance for the 3 are about the same however big ticket items like may not always be in stock at the spare parts dealers, alternatively you can try chop shops if they have these parts.

Overall it is a very good car, highway speeds of 110km/h at only 2500rpm is a real fuel saver
I find that the cabin stability and NVH is better than the standard camry.
However, when it comes to maintenance do expect certain things to be more expensive because they are not routine maintenance items and/or usually break during an accident.

sorry bro, in short.. how to avoid from buying a stolen car?

1)dont know.... dont know much about how banks deal with this stuff
2)car grant and the engine number u can check it yourself.... (not sure if u want to check if its the original engine and stuff or you want to make sure its untampered) AND puspakom should also check for you. (if you wana be careful, just check it yourself, usually an easy task) If its been tampered with, and the puspakom officer passes it, something is obviously wrong...
3)at most i think you can check the car's records with the police (and insurance companies i think)


anyway.... if the deal is too good to be true, then you should be wary, otherwise its usually alright. i still think you can double check all this stuff yourself.... its pretty easy to check all this stuff if you know what you are looking for (unless its a modified car, then its history should be vetted before any decisions should be made)


**frankly, its not easy to sell a stolen/clone car without the buyer knowing

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Apr 13 2016, 11:11 AM

Hi zenix and others fellow forumers , im dilema on picking a mummy car for my wife .
I got 2 choice now within rm90k budget used car which is 2010 Toyota Wish 1.8x and 2013 Toyota Prius luxury .

The pro and cons quite similiar on this 2 car from my own research . The big gab is about warranty only . Prius is giving 8 years warranty from the vehicle reg date . The toyota wish is about 1year 3rd party warranty from grey importer.

Hard to decide now , hope someone can enlighting me on this purchase =) thx ya !

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : < 70K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Doesn't matters.
4. Specs : Doesn't matters too much
5. Transmission : Auto will do
7. Type : 4 seater.
8. Remarks : City drive, outstation drive monthly, comfort, reliable, low maintenance cost, good FC.

actually i read back some post TS recommend Nissan Sylphy with low second hand price, want to know how is the maintenance like for nissan sylphy? good fc? i don't mind getting used car but plan to drive in for another 5-10 years. currently having a ford fiesta HB but had to let go due to the forever clutch problem. thanks so much !

This post has been edited by leong85: Apr 13 2016, 04:35 PM

zenix

What do you think of this, a good buy or goodbye ?

Thanks



Ford Focus

This post has been edited by digilife: Apr 13 2016, 12:52 PM

zenix and fellow forumer

seem like e46 is a bit costly to maintain (just peek the bmw malaysia club forum and see all of their bills), so it takes me back to Audi. Can i ask what do u think about this Audi A4 '00, the price is unbelievably cheap, so cheap till wonder if this car is busted. What is ur opinion bout very cheap price car like this, is it still a go or need to reconsider 1000x. And may i know if its worth it to keep this car for like 4-5 years on the road?

this poor fag thx for ur help

digilife

i also consider ford focus but i like the hatchback more like this Focus Hatchback 06 or this Focus Hatchback '08

This post has been edited by garfieldX: Apr 13 2016, 01:58 PM

-seem like e46 is a bit costly to maintain.
I honestly dont think its that exp to maintain. If you do feel that it is exp, then i dont think you should be considering the audi either...

-the price is unbelievably cheap, so cheap till wonder if this car is busted.
also that a4 has no value whatsoever, and is not exactly a popular car... I dont see any harm at taking a loo if you are really interested.... frankly speaking taking a look is also experience....

**i know for a fact that e46's can go for lower than 20, shops are not willing to even offer 20 for a decent 2nd hand unit**

I'm currently driving a 2008 Mark X for almost 4 yrs now. It's a 2.5ltr V6 GDi engine with 212ps/260nm RWD 6 speed transmission, 0-100kph in about 7-8secs and top speed >240kph. This car is certainly much better than Accord or Camry especially in terms of performance and handling, so yeah it is a good buy if you're looking for a reliable D-Segment which can easily outperforms all those more common Accords/Camrys/Mazda 6s/Teanas. Maintenance is still comparable to those other d-segments, just slightly more expensive but not that much. Parts not that difficult to find since this car shares the same engine and gearbox as the Lexus IS250. Even many suspension and brakes parts are the same as well. It's a very reliable car btw, so mostly just regular maintenance.

It is very fuel efficient for the size and power that it has. My car can easily reach real measured average of 10-11km/ltr using RON95 in mixed city highway condition around KL. Achieving 600-650km on full tank in such mixed condition is not difficult, I could even reach 720-750km at some time before. If full highway, I can drive to Johor and back to KL in just 1 full tank provided I drive patiently within 110-120kph.

So do try test drive some if you're looking for a good D-segment car. If you want more info on this car, you can just pm me, I'll try to help as much as I know based on my experience.

thanks for the recommendation!

I wanted to get some understanding of used car dealers.

Having a touch choice to choose between 2 cars (A w212 2010 E300 local & 2010 E250 UK spec) had test driven the E250 today all good. so thought will also check out the E300 and then do final decision

The E250 sales guys no issues in managing my request and test drive and all. Did not even ask for deposit b4 test drive.

The E300 sales guy - wah another story..Planned with the dealer for appointment and then he says need to pay security deposit of about RM4K (prefers cash but agreed for a cheque eventually)

Then he says, if we like the test drive and no issues with the inspection but choose not to buy then deposit burn straight. WTF!!

Can dealers actually do this? Is this legal? We all have a right to check in detail and choose right?

I think that's a rubbish deal for you.... But at least the fella told you about it before hand....

I don't know if its legal or not but as soon as I hear that line, I would just walk away, simple as that

Boss the e46 < 20k is it > 2003 model or the pre-facelift 99-02 models? Really interested in getting one but so far all >= 35k for facelifted models.

This post has been edited by tekplyrX: Apr 13 2016, 09:35 PM

Thanks Zenix & 6UEST for the insight.

Haih... really hard to choose. i like used car over the new one coz no need to worry, if scratch then scratch la... also value for money. Engine cc at least must 1.8 or 2.0

earlier i was considering Camry/Accord (but the RV still holds) --- 65k-80k

then was thinking why not consider old C or E class / BMW / Volvo S60 or 80 --- 30k-50k (but will be rob when footing the maintennance bills) - brother in laws also advise not to choose due to i am lazy to service car. He said Japs car never go wrong, no need to think.

Now am looking at Mark X / Sonata / Sylphy.... --- 30k-60k

Verryyyyyyy undecided.... Btw now driving Perdana V6 which must return to my family use in the next few month

For around 40~55K budget,
I was first inclined to look for an NEW Iriz 1.6 MT, but family commented its kinda small.
Recommended USED Preve 1.6 MT instead.

Then while considering the USED Preve 1.6 MT, I thought, why not add a lil extra to get a USED Inspira 1.8 MT instead since the only reason I skip Inspira for Iriz is to lower my budget.

So between these 3,
New Iriz 1.6 MT (+ newer model, + newest tech, - small capacity)
Used Preve 1.6 MT (+ big capacity, - outdated engine? )
Used Inspira 1.8 MT (+ lots of aftermarket parts, + essentially a Mitsu, - clutch problem?)

would love to hear some comments, pros and cons etc from experienced car owner here.