Raytech tinted + ceramic coating for x70, TLL rm2.2k is it OK?
Car Tint Advice - V2, Raytech, Vkool, Huper Optic, 3M or .....
Car Tint Advice - V2, Raytech, Vkool, Huper Optic, 3M or .....
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Sep 2 2024, 01:26 PM
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Raytech tinted + ceramic coating for x70, TLL rm2.2k is it OK?
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Sep 2 2024, 09:49 PM
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Sep 4 2024, 09:34 AM
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installed the hamel signature, worth the money. car is cooling.
smart tag no problem but my condo access card cant go through for front mirror but side mirror ok, maybe cause of the naturechromic layer in the front. Think multi sputtered tint is required in Marehsias weather. Previously another car i use lavish platinum but not cool enough when sun is at its peak. Its nanoceramic. Lavish highest end is multi sputter (black rainbow) for front and back only not all windows. Hamel signature is all windows multi sputtered, so far i drove for 1 week very comfortable! This post has been edited by chittyserv: Sep 4 2024, 09:40 AM |
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Sep 4 2024, 10:21 AM
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Can anyone recommend which one is better, 3M Crystalline or Magnus Pro? Magnus Pro is priced at RM3,000. What is the average price of 3M Crystalline? My car is an SUV.
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Sep 4 2024, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(vostroxe @ Sep 4 2024, 10:21 AM) Can anyone recommend which one is better, 3M Crystalline or Magnus Pro? Magnus Pro is priced at RM3,000. What is the average price of 3M Crystalline? My car is an SUV. Magnuspro tint just mid range. For high end spec better take 3M Crystalline in this price range with better heat rejection. |
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Sep 5 2024, 08:19 AM
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Sep 5 2024, 05:09 PM
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Sep 8 2024, 06:02 PM
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My new car is coming with this brand Turtle Coat but I can't seem to find any review or detail nor the mention here. Got me worried as if I proceed and I want to change, need to pay extra removal fee.
Anyone here got experience with it? I am thinking if I should just tell the SA to not install it and go for a brand that I am comfortable with? |
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Sep 10 2024, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(vostroxe @ Sep 4 2024, 10:21 AM) Can anyone recommend which one is better, 3M Crystalline or Magnus Pro? Magnus Pro is priced at RM3,000. What is the average price of 3M Crystalline? My car is an SUV. dun waste ur money to get 3m crystalline. I have 3m crystaline installed on my model y and i still feel the heat from outside. Roof is 80% FWS is 60% Front window is 70% Rear window is 20% Now i regret, i still need to buy shade for my car roof to block the heat |
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Sep 10 2024, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Sep 10 2024, 03:05 PM) dun waste ur money to get 3m crystalline. Err. roof 80%...I assume is VLT. Of course hot lar, why no use dark tint with low VLT on roof although normally the roof already using dark glass, still with our super hot weather, it can still cook the interior.I have 3m crystaline installed on my model y and i still feel the heat from outside. Roof is 80% FWS is 60% Front window is 70% Rear window is 20% Now i regret, i still need to buy shade for my car roof to block the heat Anyway many have a misconception that tint will ELIMINATE heat. No, it just slow down the heat penetrating the car thru the windows and glass, it will not stop them. It reduced UV to minimum. In general, if you parked a high quality tinted car under hot sun vs non-tinted car, within an hour, you can feel tinted car is not as warm as the non-tinted one. The dashboard of tinted car although hot will not be as hot as non-tinted. If you parked 3-5 hours, really not much different in heat inside the car, tinted or no. However tinted car protected the dashboard from sun colour fading, the car leather from cracking due to sunlight, etc. The car will be much cooler when driving under hot sun vs non-tinted with the same air-conditioning as the heat are resisted It will still be hot. Your roof, front windows and FWS are using high VLT aka clear tint, meaning they allow lots of light in....so does the heat. If all tints are authentic 3M crystalline, they will have high IRR. So it reduced some heat from there. Tint only block and reflect parts of the heat, it does not block them all depending on how high your IRR and VLT is. None can reach 100%. So large amt of heat will still penetrate. This post has been edited by Cavino: Sep 10 2024, 03:45 PM |
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Sep 10 2024, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 10 2024, 03:36 PM) Err. roof 80%...I assume is VLT. Of course hot lar, why no use dark tint with low VLT on roof although normally the roof already using dark glass, still with our super hot weather, it can still cook the interior. i seeAnyway many have a misconception that tint will ELIMINATE heat. No, it just slow down the heat penetrating the car thru the windows and glass, it will not stop them. It reduced UV to minimum. In general, if you parked a high quality tinted car under hot sun vs non-tinted car, within an hour, you can feel tinted car is not as warm as the non-tinted one. The dashboard of tinted car although hot will not be as hot as non-tinted. If you parked 3-5 hours, really not much different in heat inside the car, tinted or no. However tinted car protected the dashboard from sun colour fading, the car leather from cracking due to sunlight, etc. The car will be much cooler when driving under hot sun vs non-tinted with the same air-conditioning as the heat are resisted It will still be hot. Your roof, front windows and FWS are using high VLT aka clear tint, meaning they allow lots of light in....so does the heat. If all tints are authentic 3M crystalline, they will have high IRR. So it reduced some heat from there. Tint only block and reflect parts of the heat, it does not block them all depending on how high your IRR and VLT is. None can reach 100%. So large amt of heat will still penetrate. initially i want to have clear vision view from roof thats why choose 80% vlt. Worry choose too dark, at night cant see. now happy liao, choose too bright then need to put sunshade. see nothing from roof at night the fws and front window, i follow the jpj compliant or else i also wish to go darker so now the tint shop told me to add another layer of their house brand to make it less heat feeling becoz currently if i drive under hot sun, i feel the heat from the front window. |
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Sep 11 2024, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Sep 10 2024, 04:09 PM) i see I think I just realised you might be typing 3M tint code, not the VLT becoz your % at FWS and Side Windows a bit weirdinitially i want to have clear vision view from roof thats why choose 80% vlt. Worry choose too dark, at night cant see. now happy liao, choose too bright then need to put sunshade. see nothing from roof at night the fws and front window, i follow the jpj compliant or else i also wish to go darker so now the tint shop told me to add another layer of their house brand to make it less heat feeling becoz currently if i drive under hot sun, i feel the heat from the front window. So if based on range, then it does make sense. Roof CR80 at 62% VLT FWS CR60 at at 51% VLT Front Side Windows CR70 at VLT 58% VLT Rear Windows CR20 at 17% VLT The weird thing is why is your FWS lower than side windows, normally ppl either use the same tint range or FWS is mostly higher than side windows. If listed as above, then your front FWS already not compliant but everything else is nice. Just the roof...if use CR20, probably can shave off at least 20% less heat coz VLT does contribute 50% of the heat penetration thru glass, in general. Choosing a dark tint with high VLR (high quality metallic based if possible due to metal reflect heat much better than other material) might be the best for roof. Too late tho, replacing the costly 3M are pretty pocket hurting and wasteful. Also you have to accept there WILL be substantial heat from front windows under hot sun due to higher VLT range, no matter what tint you use, even the most premium VKool (IMO). Just put the back of your hand, see it stings bad or not under super hot noon sun, hot but minimal or not stinging, the tint already done it's job, that is my own layman unscientific way of testing the tint under super hot sun. Beside good material tints (that really does what it says) with high IRR, one of best way to reduce the heat is to lower the VLT as much as possible but FWS and front side has to try keep to near JPJ compliancy. Meaning you don't get stop at JPJ roadblock, if go puspakom, lots of VLT 70% tint also cannot pass coz the car original glass thickness and coloring already take up substantial VLT %. All my 2 cents only based on experience (layman, not technical). And to add another layer to house brand, if the house brand kaput (bubble, low quality, blurred, etc), what it will likely damage your 3M tint as well. I think you just switch the air-cond higher will do better. The roof, sunshade does work along with air-cond, at least you can open the sunshade and enjoy moon light at night...hehehe, This post has been edited by Cavino: Sep 11 2024, 09:06 AM |
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Sep 11 2024, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Sep 10 2024, 04:09 PM) i see Yes, heat also come from the VLT. Best to look at TSER when choose the tint. My first car last time with 95% IRR, but high VLT cz scare with JPJ, can feel the heat due to that. 2nd year double tint to make it darker, same brand, then it less heat when driving on noon time. Iiwu, just double tint then.initially i want to have clear vision view from roof thats why choose 80% vlt. Worry choose too dark, at night cant see. now happy liao, choose too bright then need to put sunshade. see nothing from roof at night the fws and front window, i follow the jpj compliant or else i also wish to go darker so now the tint shop told me to add another layer of their house brand to make it less heat feeling becoz currently if i drive under hot sun, i feel the heat from the front window. This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Sep 11 2024, 10:53 AM |
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Sep 11 2024, 11:07 AM
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for cars with existing manufacturer tint (security tint) should we just add on another layer
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Sep 11 2024, 11:18 AM
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Hi sifus, just recently pick up my Tesla Model 3. Tesla officially refers us to their 3M partner for below package :
- Front Windscreen : Crystalline CR 90 - Front Windows : Crystalline CR 70 - Rest of Car (Rear Windows, Rear Windscreen, Sunroof) : Color Stable CS 35 Priced at RM2,550.00. Is this a good combinations and is it worth the price tag? I can feel the heat during sunny day drive, I believe it's mostly from the side windows. The sunroof I feel the original tint is pretty ok, at least not that hot unless you touch it under hot sunny day. |
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Sep 11 2024, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(rayeonlee @ Sep 11 2024, 11:07 AM) Yes. Example Mazda car already equiped with the tint, and compulsory to pay rm2k+ for the accessories. The front windshield tint they put 55% IRR, which is a no-no for our weather. And high VLT for front window door. Best to replace the windscreen tint only and double tint all as stock tint by Mazda for all windows cw 97% IRR. |
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Sep 11 2024, 12:31 PM
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Sep 11 2024, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(huiqing88 @ Sep 11 2024, 11:18 AM) Hi sifus, just recently pick up my Tesla Model 3. Tesla officially refers us to their 3M partner for below package : CS series has super low IRR (meaning lousy heat rejection from 45% part) and can be consider their "budget" tint. The front using their premium tints and the rear budget tint. If you are ok with it and feel heat resistance is pretty good, I don't see any issue. - Front Windscreen : Crystalline CR 90 - Front Windows : Crystalline CR 70 - Rest of Car (Rear Windows, Rear Windscreen, Sunroof) : Color Stable CS 35 Priced at RM2,550.00. Is this a good combinations and is it worth the price tag? I can feel the heat during sunny day drive, I believe it's mostly from the side windows. The sunroof I feel the original tint is pretty ok, at least not that hot unless you touch it under hot sunny day. I wonder tho, since already pay premium for Tesla, why Tesla refer to non premium tint for the rear unless the rear are already pre-tinted. I know their roof should be pre-tinted or at least darkened a lot for this purpose but still not working very well naked without tint in our super hot weather. This post has been edited by Cavino: Sep 12 2024, 09:00 AM |
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Sep 11 2024, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Sep 11 2024, 08:41 AM) I think I just realised you might be typing 3M tint code, not the VLT becoz your % at FWS and Side Windows a bit weird wa bro, u are professional in my view already.So if based on range, then it does make sense. Roof CR80 at 62% VLT FWS CR60 at at 51% VLT Front Side Windows CR70 at VLT 58% VLT Rear Windows CR20 at 17% VLT The weird thing is why is your FWS lower than side windows, normally ppl either use the same tint range or FWS is mostly higher than side windows. If listed as above, then your front FWS already not compliant but everything else is nice. Just the roof...if use CR20, probably can shave off at least 20% less heat coz VLT does contribute 50% of the heat penetration thru glass, in general. Choosing a dark tint with high VLR (high quality metallic based if possible due to metal reflect heat much better than other material) might be the best for roof. Too late tho, replacing the costly 3M are pretty pocket hurting and wasteful. Also you have to accept there WILL be substantial heat from front windows under hot sun due to higher VLT range, no matter what tint you use, even the most premium VKool (IMO). Just put the back of your hand, see it stings bad or not under super hot noon sun, hot but minimal or not stinging, the tint already done it's job, that is my own layman unscientific way of testing the tint under super hot sun. Beside good material tints (that really does what it says) with high IRR, one of best way to reduce the heat is to lower the VLT as much as possible but FWS and front side has to try keep to near JPJ compliancy. Meaning you don't get stop at JPJ roadblock, if go puspakom, lots of VLT 70% tint also cannot pass coz the car original glass thickness and coloring already take up substantial VLT %. All my 2 cents only based on experience (layman, not technical). And to add another layer to house brand, if the house brand kaput (bubble, low quality, blurred, etc), what it will likely damage your 3M tint as well. I think you just switch the air-cond higher will do better. The roof, sunshade does work along with air-cond, at least you can open the sunshade and enjoy moon light at night...hehehe, btw, ur guess is correct on my tint configuration, I do cross check my e-warranty with you mentioned. My FWS is not JPJ compliant due to the sales girl tell me, if too high VLT then will be quite bright so she advice me to go for lower one. BUT she never advice me on the front window regarding heat. then my roof, I also regret for choosing so bright one, hahahaha. I told the sales girl I want the best view for the roof so may be that's the reason she didn't advise me on that about adding another layer, the sales girl said if I take the house brand from them then they will keep my 3m warranty. I do have the same concern as per what you brought up, so end up I didn't take her offer on that. QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 11 2024, 10:52 AM) Yes, heat also come from the VLT. Best to look at TSER when choose the tint. My first car last time with 95% IRR, but high VLT cz scare with JPJ, can feel the heat due to that. 2nd year double tint to make it darker, same brand, then it less heat when driving on noon time. Iiwu, just double tint then. haih, some of my few previous car either SA free or my dad chose for me, so I dun have much idea. until this new car only I start choosing myself. I tot I did enough research but seems like I am not. QUOTE(huiqing88 @ Sep 11 2024, 11:18 AM) Hi sifus, just recently pick up my Tesla Model 3. Tesla officially refers us to their 3M partner for below package : bro, dun kena con by Tesla. At least I tot it was good deal until I joined some Tesla whatsfap group only notice there is a shop that offer a good price. do let me know if u want to learn more, I can share you the shop name and contact number.- Front Windscreen : Crystalline CR 90 - Front Windows : Crystalline CR 70 - Rest of Car (Rear Windows, Rear Windscreen, Sunroof) : Color Stable CS 35 Priced at RM2,550.00. Is this a good combinations and is it worth the price tag? I can feel the heat during sunny day drive, I believe it's mostly from the side windows. The sunroof I feel the original tint is pretty ok, at least not that hot unless you touch it under hot sunny day. Disclaimer: I am not the sales person and I do not get any comm too. I just enjoy helping ppl |
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Sep 12 2024, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(novblaze @ Aug 21 2024, 12:12 PM) QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 21 2024, 05:32 PM) QUOTE(VeeJay @ Aug 21 2024, 09:22 PM) Still exist! When there over the weekend. Did my car front and back "only" including tint removal. I would say, its my first and last, same goes with all of the other reviews.If you previously think its was good, then its still good today. I did mine almost 10 yrs ago, and re-tinted end of last year. Reason for re-tinting was sun is get too hot nowadays, and since new regulation for rear is 100%, went ahead with that, since my previous one was based on old ruling. The problem is, the staff wants to be fast, do everything fast, with no quality even with experience. Lucky for me after went out for a while I returned to see the installation. My Rear window tint has been removed. But it seems that they give no F about your car and just rip it off instead of using heat and slowly removing it, causing my rear heater to bye-bye. "After the rear installation, I noticed cut tint debris in the tint". Then when they install the front there is a line.. That cant be removed (looks like the tint folded on itself). I ask the guy... Replace it together with the back, very annoying. His response was you wait 3 days it will go away... But lucky he say ok and replace. Ended up 2 times installation and needed to go back again. Due to the font tint has debris in it which is the same level as my driving eye level. Also, if you drive an expensive car they will take good care. But if you drive a cheap car they no F regardless of how much is your tint cost. This post has been edited by JON97: Sep 12 2024, 12:42 AM novblaze liked this post
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