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post Jan 15 2024, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 15 2024, 05:35 PM)
If you want JPJ compliancy for front Windscreen, you have to choose those with at LEAST 80% VLT or above. Forget about good heat rejection at that range. Cannot be help, near to half of the heat comes from light, slightly more than half comes from IRR.

So most top heat rejection clear tints will likely fail the Puspakom test. VKool Elite (4 to 5 years old) for my old Honda City measured 63%. Elite is rated on paper at 71% to 74% with 3mm glass but in reality, on much lower our Windscreen.

So I just gave up front Windscreen JPJ compliancy and installed CLEAR tint with high heat rejection aka Vkool Elite, Irispro D60/DX60 for front. If you want JPJ compliancy, you have to sacrifice with much weaker heat rejection.

Side tints are easier, just choose tints at 60% rated on paper, should be quite save. Those rated 50 will go likely go below in actual installation.

Unfortunately for 3 pcs top range tint, they are really priced something like that for Estima (consider large MPV). Even Irispro should not go too far from the figure. Can give their IRISPro a call if you are in Klang Valley, Puchong and Klang branch, same manager handling but don't give much hope on much lower pricing. But if you want JPJ compliancy, I think the only tint qualified for that is their lower Ceramic range (CS8080), but TSER rated at 43% on paper vs their Diamond series 60. Price definitely cheaper than their top range ones.

Problem is the tint hue colouring, using different brands or even different range might produced different hue colouring...since you only replace 3, the hue might not match.
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Thanks for sharing. Yea I did further research and other brands also quoted RM2xxx as well. The tint hue doesnt matter, because rear windows all came with factory privacy tint so all black. I prefer metallic because ceramic absorbs heat instead of reflecting heat.

The ones I researched was VKool Elite, Solargard LX, Irispro Elite & Rhinepro Diamond 11 series. Did checked Huper Optik but doesnt appear to have much information on their Select series.

Just read your other reply, I will take a look at the Irispro Diamond as it doesnt seem to be available online. Can you share how much you paid for your new Irispro tint?

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post Jan 15 2024, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(xkaizoku @ Jan 15 2024, 07:24 PM)
Thanks for sharing. Yea I did further research and other brands also quoted RM2xxx as well. The tint hue doesnt matter, because rear windows all came with factory privacy tint so all black. I prefer metallic because ceramic absorbs heat instead of reflecting heat.

The ones I researched was VKool Elite, Solargard LX, Irispro Elite & Rhinepro Diamond 11 series. Did checked Huper Optik but doesnt appear to have much information on their Select series.

Just read your other reply, I will take a look at the Irispro Diamond as it doesnt seem to be available online. Can you share how much you paid for your new Irispro tint?
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RM2688 Diamond series for Civic. I upgrade to DX RM2900. Mentioned price might go up slightly if launch formally but that is just saying. For elite series, I think should be 2388. Note in future SST comes in, etc price may increase, thus I rushed to do everything before March 2024, just in case, since I need to replace them anyway.

Also do note, I don't negotiate too much on pricing due to 2 factors

1. They arrange for my windscreen replacement at their centre. Pre-tint the windscreen, then the team come in to replace when I arrived. One stop centre, I no need to go windscreen center, no need to go tinting after windscreen dry, save lots of time. I take a pic of car reg card and insurance to ensure right windscreen, they do the rest.

2. Remove old tints including superb skill on rear demister. Luckily used good tint (VKool Elite, 15 years old), no demister damage. Luck and removal skill.

Due to the above, they already did a lot of works and makes my life easier already, so I don't negotiate much.
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post Jan 16 2024, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 15 2024, 11:31 AM)
I don't now ler...I also search a long time for premium tint to replace VKool Elite. I think currently, this is the closest premium metal-based tint beside 3M. So I can't say for other brands. Considered other brands pro and cons (all got both good and bad review, so confusing).

If want metallic and don't mind the price, I would still recommend the proven VKool Elite, the real one from VKool HQ and Tintshop. Really satisfied with their long term performance but now priced out from my reach liao. Crazy 4K plus for Honda City and 5K plus for CRV, Civic.

I try go back to metal-based sputter tint, smart tag friendly is A MUST. So 3M is a no go, VKool Elite I want to go but cannot afford to go. Hahaha...

If you have read, I've just installed Irispro Diamond X (their listed top range is Diamond) on both my old Civic and City. Ya, crazy paying premium price for old cars but I cannot afford to change cars liao, so they are here to stay.

Diamond X is their new Silver-based metallic sputter vs Diamond's Titanium sputter. Have full UV and HEV Blue Light protection. Half or 2/3 the price of VKool Elite. Diamond X not listed in their website yet. DX has better heat rejection than the D series but silver-based tint...might discolor but with 10 years warranty, giving it a go. DX is about 4 to 5mm while D is 3mm. I think DX qualified as security tint liao if based on thickness.

This time, instead of full clear VKool Elite tint all around, following the trend, I used D60/DX60 for front and side, rear side and demister, I used D30X. Smart tag friendly, surprisingly IR for those housing estate can work too albeit with some delay (VKool Elite don't work). RFID is on my car lamp. Not recommended to put on RFID on windows for metal-based tint.

Of course DX30 performance with only 21-22VLT noticeably reduced the heat a LOT more than VKool Elite BUT....for D60, I feel VKool Elite performed a tiny bit better in heat rejection no matter what they listed on paper but this is just unsubstantiated feeling, no prove. Forget about the device reading. I feel DX60 is nearer to VKool Elite in heat feel (feel is just that, no prove). However D60/DX60 is noticeably darker due to their VLT at 60 on paper vs VKool Elite 70. Quite like the light penetration lighting tho, cabin have a comfortable hazy slight greenish lighting. VKool Elite is much brighter without any greenish lighting although their hue on outside is greenish.

DX30 with 21-22VLT lighting in cabin is light brownish, not dark, not greenish black. The DX60 light for front side windows are more toward greenish and a hint of brown.

At 20+ VLT, I expect it to be dark (ecotint black pearl experience) but no, it's light brown instead, likely the effect of HEV Blue Light filtering. Under the sun, from outside, dark mirror finish , can't see inside clearly but from inside, surprisingly it's light brown, no claustrophobic feel, quite comfortable brown. Just initially feel a bit weird having brown lighting at the rear and greenish with a hint of brown in front. I could see thru them the DX30 tints quite clearly at night, no glare. Reverse parking at night in my car porch, no problem. I guess, if really want to go dark, cannot use 30, have to go at least 15 or below.

So am I satisfied with the tints after a month? Yes, feel premium, DX series cabin lighting is much darker (that's the idea) than previous VKool Elite, the rear heat is greatly reduced due to the DX30 tints. Comfortable hazy light penetration (HEV Blue Light filtering comfortable to eyes??), not too bright, not too dark. View and glare at night is good. Just DX60 and DX30 gives different colour hue...some might not like it if they want the same hue. From outside, more mirror reflection, can comb hair.

Just sakit hati becoz of the premium price...for old cars. I think the tint warranty might last longer than the cars. Workmanship to remove old tint from demister is superb, installation workmanship is ok. Got to replaced a couple of windows tint due to dust and some bubble, but they don't delay or give excuse, got problem, come in check, straight replace, I'm satisfied with their response to replace any tints due to issues.
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Still very confusing. Didn't know premium tint can cost so much.

Layman's logic. Honda offers Ray Barrier, and comparing to the prices you mentioned, seem reasonable. I reckon, being Honda's offering, it wouldn't be the best nor the worst but still "useable".
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 16 2024, 06:34 AM)
Still very confusing. Didn't know premium tint can cost so much.

Layman's logic. Honda offers Ray Barrier, and comparing to the prices you mentioned, seem reasonable. I reckon, being Honda's offering, it wouldn't be the best nor the worst but still "useable".
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Try check the Honda offering tint spec vs outside brand. Especially the IRR, TSER. VLT sure follow guidelines
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post Jan 16 2024, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 16 2024, 06:34 AM)
Still very confusing. Didn't know premium tint can cost so much.

Layman's logic. Honda offers Ray Barrier, and comparing to the prices you mentioned, seem reasonable. I reckon, being Honda's offering, it wouldn't be the best nor the worst but still "useable".
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I can't say for sure, Honda is using Ecotint Sumitomo's Raybarrier, quite ok but for IMO, only my 2 cents, its considered mid or maybe mid-lower range tints (not the house brand type lower range but branded type). Many years ago, Ecotint used to have 10 years warranty for raybarrier (if I'm not wrong) but now down to 5. Might not be the same raybarrier tint...

If really want to compare to premium top range of other branded tints....it just can't compare. The quality difference for me, is like you compare City vs a Saga. You get what you pay. It's ok to drive a saga, it gets you there fine with good costing but you want more efficient, spacious and better quality car, then... they are really in a different category. Thats how I view Honda Ecotint vs top premium tints. If warranty is not an issue, I would top up another K for a noticeably better tint, but that is just me.

But if I buy Honda now, likely will used the raybarrier coz of warranty issues. Honda nowadays are extremely stringent, even something small goes wrong with door panels, might risk blaming the externally installled tints...Rarely happened many years ago but happened nowadays. Anyway, it is still a Sumitomo branded tint, got minimum quality there kuah...

Of course Ecotint is definitely JPJ compliant...that is why the front windscreen heat resistance is very celup...Other premium tint front windscreen TSER very nice....but not JPJ compliant. Give and take.

Only VKool cost that much lar...most top brands premium should be around 3K plus at most.

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post Jan 16 2024, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 15 2024, 11:50 AM)
If using car for long term and parking under hot sun, cheap tints might not protect dashboard colour from fading.

Not to mentioned, its ok to keep changing tints but for rear demister windscreen, everytime change, the risk of damaging the demister is higher. Cheaper tints with bubble and lousy gum might just damage them.

If cheap tints degraded greatly year to year, the protection they provided would be much lesser every year. Depends on our own preference tho.

I prefer using a premium ones... fire and forget for many years, tint degradation is minimal thus dashboard, leather, degradation due to UV and heat are minimized as much as possible.

Thus my 18 years old City and 15 years old Civic dashboard, side plastic, rear panels colour does not fade at all or at least does not looks faded.  Looks very new inside the car. It helps with annual coating and good tints.
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I'm not referring rm40 tinted for 4 windows
My rm499 tinted aldy 2 yrs n still no bubble but for degraded i'm not sure coz mine isnt folo jpj spec so i still feel cooler inside my car
For dashboard unable to comment coz i just installed it 3 yrs ago

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post Jan 16 2024, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jan 16 2024, 11:57 AM)
I'm not referring rm40 tinted for 4 windows
My rm499 tinted aldy 2 yrs n still no bubble but for degraded i'm not sure coz mine isnt folo jpj spec so i still feel cooler inside my car
For dashboard unable to comment coz i just installed it 3 yrs ago
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Hehehe...499 is cheap tint to me...comparing to the prices of premium. Many vouched by their ïn-expensive tint and I don't doubt that it worked if they can vouched about that already. Got it cheap and it is to their satisfaction, nothing wrong about that.

We have our own preferred standards but then this is just a forum for opinion and guides, listen if the opinion is good and to your liking, ignore when it does not sound right to you.
And I am the sucker who installed premium tints on old cars. Or should I say I got sucked...and I can't help it, I put MUCH emphasis on good tints for car care. But that really burned a hole in my pocket right now.
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 16 2024, 03:36 PM)
Hehehe...499 is cheap tint to me...comparing to the prices of premium. Many vouched by their ïn-expensive tint and I don't doubt that it worked if they can vouched about that already. Got it cheap and it is to their satisfaction, nothing wrong about that.

We have our own preferred standards but then this is just a forum for opinion and guides, listen if the opinion is good and to your liking, ignore when it does not sound right to you.
And I am the sucker who installed premium tints on old cars. Or should I say I got sucked...and I can't help it, I put MUCH emphasis on good tints for car care. But that really burned a hole in my pocket right now.
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Yes this is forum n i'm not forcing others to follow me
But i dunno even i sit in my friend car with expensive tint also feel hot
I believe the major issue due to front wscreen which allow only 70% vlt
Try 45% vlt n u can feel the diff even with cheap tint
Side window no issue coz normally at noon, heat frm sun will not point to side window
So thats why i feel dont wanna waste on > rm3k tint with jpj spec

Also the degraded part, till today my smarttag still unable to read so i hope no degrade yet
And the rear demister, nvr use on all my cars

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post Jan 17 2024, 02:54 AM

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Any 3M authorized dealer sales agent here?

Would like to go for 3M crystalline for sedan. Got quoted RM2288 and free PPF on headlamps and doorcups, but branch is 45 min away from where I live (PJ)

Any branch near PJ can offer same or similar price?


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post Jan 17 2024, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Jan 16 2024, 07:18 PM)
Yes this is forum n i'm not forcing others to follow me
But i dunno even i sit in my friend car with expensive tint also feel hot
I believe the major issue due to front wscreen which allow only 70% vlt
Try 45% vlt n u can feel the diff even with cheap tint
Side window no issue coz normally at noon, heat frm sun will not point to side window
So thats why i feel dont wanna waste on > rm3k tint with jpj spec

Also the degraded part, till today my smarttag still unable to read so i hope no degrade yet
And the rear demister, nvr use on all my cars
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The smart tag cannot read might be due to the IRR same wavelength conflict, so even degraded also got interference.
UV / Heat resistance, etc that protect the car dashboard, leather likely makes a different with good tints and lousy ones.

IMO, the difference of good TSER tint vs low ones is how long does it takes for the heat to fill up the car.

Lets say a good tint with TSER of 60 have 40% heat penetration will take 3 hours to heat up to 100%.
A lousy tint with TSER of 30 have 70% heat penetration will take only less 1.5 hours to heat up to 100%.

So if a car parked under hot sun for 3 hours, for heat, it makes no difference between cheap tint and expensive tint, all same affect, the cars will feel as hot but if you parked for only an hour, then you can feel the heat difference with good tint car at 40% heat but lousy tint car at 70% heat liao.... So if 2 hours, the good tinted car not reach 100% but the lousy tint will be cooked inside...

Heat comes in at about 40+% from VLT and 50+% from IRR. So of course dark tint will reduced the heat further but not everybody like to tint cars as dark in front where the driver is. So we try to use clear tint, with more heat coming in from light but try maxed out the 50+% heat resistance from IRR. So thats the reason, now I used VLT 21-22% for rear...reduced the heat further for the my kids but front also maximize with VLT50+ for side and VLT 56 for front (still have to look like clear tint (albeit not as clear as VKool 70), so don't get stop during roadblock.

So now on a good daily drive where we are driving in the car under hot sun with air-conditioning, good tints will slow down the heat penetration a lot more than lousy tint meaning while it will less hot while we are driving in the car with good tints, we can use lower air-conditioning vs the one with lousy TSER, have to use full air-cond blasting to achieve the same temperature in the car while driving under hot sun. Both cars will be hot under noon sun but one car will be much lesser than the others.

I really don't know about technical on tint but this is a layman perspective on how I feel on heat...does not work exactly that way but that is how I look at it to explain high TSER and low TSER affect...might be wrong tho...but when you spend hours and hours in car everyday, I try to maxed out the comfortability in the car.

Some like you don't feel it is worth the price to max out the TSER.....and you are right. That is why I feel a bit stupid spending so much to max out and its is really not that value for money thing to do...but I just am crazy enuf to do that and it hurts my pocket and I still can't prevent heat from other source...car body....lost my reasoning..hahaha...

btw. The sides are as important actually for me as we do drive not only at noon but morning near noon and evening, the heat from side windows are as bad especially during driving. The front and rear windscreen tint reduced the heat directly from sunlight into the car and dashboards, steering wheel while the sides worked in reduced the heat from direct sunlight directly onto the skin when ppl sits in them. Its all about comfortability.

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QUOTE(spacezeus @ Jan 17 2024, 02:54 AM)
Any 3M authorized dealer sales agent here?

Would like to go for 3M crystalline for sedan. Got quoted RM2288 and free PPF on headlamps and doorcups, but branch is 45 min away from where I live (PJ)

Any branch near PJ can offer same or similar price?
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post Jan 25 2024, 10:34 AM

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Would like to ask. What would be the best heat rejecting tint for the front windscreen with VLT above 70%? So far my experience and personal rating is as below for the tints I've used for my current and previous cars in terms of heat rejection.

Installed on Front windscreen
1. V-Kool Elite - 8.5/10
2. Huper Optic Sech60 - 7/10
3. Totalgard Infusion Pro 65 N8 - 6/10

Despite some claims that the Totalgard Infusion Pro (RM600 for whole car) is comparable or better than V-kool Elite, that is not my experience at all.

I am now looking for a good tint just for the front windscreen and am seeking experience if people have found a tint with comparable or better performance than the V-kool Elite. Please state the price too. ONLY FRONT WINDSCREEN with VLT>70%.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 25 2024, 10:34 AM)
Would like to ask. What would be the best heat rejecting tint for the front windscreen with VLT above 70%? So far my experience and personal rating is as below for the tints I've used for my current and previous cars in terms of heat rejection.

Installed on Front windscreen
1. V-Kool Elite - 8.5/10
2. Huper Optic Sech60 - 7/10
3. Totalgard Infusion Pro 65 N8 - 6/10

Despite some claims that the Totalgard Infusion Pro (RM600 for whole car) is comparable or better than V-kool Elite, that is not my experience at all.

I am now looking for a good tint just for the front windscreen and am seeking experience if people have found a tint with comparable or better performance than the V-kool Elite. Please state the price too. ONLY FRONT WINDSCREEN with VLT>70%.

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VLT>70% is too high if the owner intends for the best of the best Heat rejection. If u read in this thread, the heat source can come from the VLT as well. my 2 sens. For JPJ, pas experience, VLT 50-60% never stop at roadblock. If u looking for Puspakom inspection yes, will be rejected

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 25 2024, 11:34 AM)
VLT>70% is too high if the owner intends for the best of the best Heat rejection. If u read in this thread, the heat source can come from the VLT as well. my 2 sens. For JPJ, pas experience, VLT 50-60% never stop at roadblock. If u looking for Puspakom inspection yes, will be rejected
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I'm not referring to JPJ or Puspakom inspection. I'm referring to tints with VLT>70% that have good heat rejection. My benchmark is V-kool Elite (VLT is 73.2%) where the heat rejection is the best I've experienced so far.

If there are other tints with VLT>70% with better heat rejection performance than V-kool Elite, would appreciate if the details can be shared here.
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FWIW the V-kool Elite (VLT 73.2%) has superior heat rejection than Huper Optik Sech60 (VLT 59%) and Totalgard Infusion Pro 65 N8 (VLT 63%). Even though the VLT of V-kool Elite is higher than Huper Optic and Totalgard, the V-kool has better heat rejection than the other 2 tints. In most cases it should be other way round.

For heat rejection, real word experience from people would be more important than looking at the specs. Even if the VLT of a tint is low (dark tint) which is supposed to provide superior heat rejection, the cheap or lower quality tints with low VLT may have worse heat rejection than good quality tints with high VLT such as my experience above. For this reason I don't look at the VLT or spec anymore if looking for a tint with good heat rejection but people's experiences instead.

However, I will only look at the VLT to determine how dark the tint will look like when installed on the windscreen. Performance I don't look at specs or VLT anymore as it's all just numbers. Real world experience will be more useful than numbers on paper, in my opinion and experience.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 25 2024, 11:51 AM)
I'm not referring to JPJ or Puspakom inspection. I'm referring to tints with VLT>70% that have good heat rejection. My benchmark is V-kool Elite (VLT is 73.2%) where the heat rejection is the best I've experienced so far.

If there are other tints with VLT>70% with better heat rejection performance than V-kool Elite, would appreciate if the details can be shared here.
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V-Kool Elite then.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 25 2024, 11:51 AM)
I'm not referring to JPJ or Puspakom inspection. I'm referring to tints with VLT>70% that have good heat rejection. My benchmark is V-kool Elite (VLT is 73.2%) where the heat rejection is the best I've experienced so far.

If there are other tints with VLT>70% with better heat rejection performance than V-kool Elite, would appreciate if the details can be shared here.
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Spectra Photosync IRD maybe?
Expensive though. Only one place in M’sia carries that brand afaik, AutoDetailer Studio PJ. Looking at the types of cars they work on, I’d suggest having a defibrillator nearby when you call them to ask for a quote, in case the price gives you a heart attack.

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As far as real world experience goes, I can only offer V-Kool Elite 70 vs IrisPro Diamond 60, but this isn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison since they’re installed on different cars, where other factors like dashboard length, windscreen slope angle and efficiency of climate control system come into play. Both do a decent job of keeping the cars’ interior cool, but both also still let some heat in on very hot sunny days. Hard to say which is better. Touching the dashboard on the car with Diamond 60 feels slightly less warm most of the time, but on the other hand I often feel overall cooler in the car with Elite 70, but then again that might just be down to the Elite 70 car having ventilated seats blowing cold air up my bum and back.

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jan 25 2024, 08:03 PM)
Spectra Photosync IRD maybe?
Expensive though. Only one place in M’sia carries that brand afaik, AutoDetailer Studio PJ. Looking at the types of cars they work on, I’d suggest having a defibrillator nearby when you call them to ask for a quote, in case the price gives you a heart attack.

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As far as real world experience goes, I can only offer V-Kool Elite 70 vs IrisPro Diamond 60, but this isn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison since they’re installed on different cars, where other factors like dashboard length, windscreen slope angle and efficiency of climate control system come into play. Both do a decent job of keeping the cars’ interior cool, but both also still let some heat in on very hot sunny days. Hard to say which is better. Touching the dashboard on the car with Diamond 60 feels slightly less warm most of the time, but on the other hand I often feel overall cooler in the car with Elite 70, but then again that might just be down to the Elite 70 car having ventilated seats blowing cold air up my bum and back.
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Thanks for the experience. Spectra Photosync IRD doesn't sound familiar. IF it's a high-end price for high-end cars, would skip since I'm actually looking at comparable V-Kool Elite's performance at possibly slightly lower price.

I don't know if the V-Kool Elite 70 is the same as V-Kool Elite. I have the V-Kool Elite installed on the Nissan Sylphy whereas Huper Optik and Totalgard are installed on the same car which is the Ford Focus. Experiences on different cars may not be entirely accurate due to the reasons you have mentioned but it's still considered to be acceptable. It is real world experience that is most important, Most importantly you don't feel the heat on your face inside the car and can feel the difference with different tints although installed on different cars. Irispro Diamond 60, will keep this in mind together with V-Kool Elite which is proven to have excellent heat rejection at high VLT, currently the best tint I have experienced so far.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 26 2024, 07:36 AM)
Thanks for the experience. Spectra Photosync IRD doesn't sound familiar. IF it's a high-end price for high-end cars, would skip since I'm actually looking at comparable V-Kool Elite's performance at possibly slightly lower price.

I don't know if the V-Kool Elite 70 is the same as V-Kool Elite. I have the V-Kool Elite installed on the Nissan Sylphy whereas Huper Optik and Totalgard are installed on the same car which is the Ford Focus. Experiences on different cars may not be entirely accurate due to the reasons you have mentioned but it's still considered to be acceptable. It is real world experience that is most important, Most importantly you don't feel the heat on your face inside the car and can feel the difference with different tints although installed on different cars. Irispro Diamond 60, will keep this in mind together with V-Kool Elite which is proven to have excellent heat rejection at high VLT, currently the best tint I have experienced so far.
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The same mindset I have earlier. I have VKool Elite installed on all my cars but have been searching for metallized clear tint to replace VKool Elite. Not only is VKool Elite the best clear tint in heat resistant, it also is the longest lasting tint without much degradation in quality. Unfortunately it has been priced out from my budget. Over 4K for Honda City, 5K for CRV spec. At least that is the previous quoted price from VKool HQ.

If you read my post above, I have currently re-tinted both my cars (old City and Civic) to silver sputter Irispro Diamond X series but my Civic windscreen is using the titanium sputter Diamond 60.

Their tints listed specs are great (so are all other cheapo house brand...hehehe) but they have detail description on their sputter spectrum test and additional blue light filtering that no other tints have. Their pricing is still premium although almost half lesser than VKool.

D60 and DX60 VLT are have noticeably lower VLT than VKool Elite very clear tint. Unfortunately, any higher VLT are lower spec tints (Irispro Elite, etc).

I have my old City windscreen VKool Elite measured 63 VLT and Irispro D60 measured 56 on Civic FD, not too much difference but reality is D60 clearly darker (still clear tint, not black darker but lower VLT light darker). The new D60X VLT is even lower...measured VLT 54 (on real life, vs D60, can see the lower lighting difference). So for front screen, D60 might be a nearer option to VKool Elite vs D60X if you want the clear tint here.

On Heat rejection, I have to say, I still think D60 with lower VLT still lose out slightly to VKool Elite....but the silver-based sputter D60X comes near to it...lower, equal or better, can't say for sure coz all based on feeling only, no prove. Issue is the VLT of DX60 seems substantially lower than VKool Elite...so give and take. VKool Elite is the prefect balance of clear VLT and working heat resistant, we can only find something near to its match but so far none is its exact match in clear tint.

For my comparison, I have my City with FWS still using VKool Elite (change windscreen few years ago), side front windows DX60, and the rest DX30 (VLT 22%) at rear. My Civic FD has front tinted D60 (not X), so try comparing from that.

City is definitely cooler than before due to rear DX30 (low VLT, high spec, silver-based sputter). I tried comparing FWS VKool Elite vs side windows DX60. Not apple to apple comparison coz windscreen definitely thicker than side windows. So under the sun, try putting my hand near the windscreen of City VKool vs DX60 side windows. Then put hands under Civic D60 windscreen and DX60 side windows (there is a difference in my side windows coz Civic DX60 side windows have additional layer...aka security tint while City side windows is 1mm thinner...just pure DX60 without additional layer).

My conclusion is DX60 feels similar or slightly cooler than VKool Elite but VKool Elite is still slightly cooler than D60. Problem is DX60 is substantially darker (lower VLT) than VKool Elite. D60 nearer optically to VKool Elite VLT but heat resistant not as good (close lar...)

Please note that the dark here is not VLT30 type of dark but vs VKool clear tint.... but still clear.

Mismatched mixed of tints, right....a bit confusing.


SportyHandling
post Jan 26 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 11:25 AM)
The same mindset I have earlier. I have VKool Elite installed on all my cars but have been searching for metallized clear tint to replace VKool Elite. Not only is VKool Elite the best clear tint in heat resistant, it also is the longest lasting tint without much degradation in quality. Unfortunately it has been priced out from my budget. Over 4K for Honda City, 5K for CRV spec. At least that is the previous quoted price from VKool HQ.

If you read my post above, I have currently re-tinted both my cars (old City and Civic) to silver sputter Irispro Diamond X series but my Civic windscreen is using the titanium sputter Diamond 60.

Their tints listed specs are great (so are all other cheapo house brand...hehehe) but they have detail description on their sputter spectrum test and additional blue light filtering that no other tints have. Their pricing is still premium although almost half lesser than VKool.

D60 and DX60 VLT are have noticeably lower VLT than VKool Elite very clear tint. Unfortunately, any higher VLT are lower spec tints (Irispro Elite, etc).

I have my old City windscreen VKool Elite measured 63 VLT and Irispro D60 measured 56 on Civic FD, not too much difference but reality is D60 clearly darker (still clear tint, not black darker but lower VLT light darker). The new D60X VLT is even lower...measured VLT 54 (on real life, vs D60, can see the lower lighting difference). So for front screen, D60 might be a nearer option to VKool Elite vs D60X if you want the clear tint here.

On Heat rejection, I have to say, I still think D60 with lower VLT still lose out slightly to VKool Elite....but the silver-based sputter D60X comes near to it...lower, equal or better, can't say for sure coz all based on feeling only, no prove. Issue is the VLT of DX60 seems substantially lower than VKool Elite...so give and take. VKool Elite is the prefect balance of clear VLT and working heat resistant, we can only find something near to its match but so far none is its exact match in clear tint.

For my comparison, I have my City with FWS still using VKool Elite (change windscreen few years ago), side front windows DX60, and the rest DX30 (VLT 22%) at rear. My Civic FD has front tinted D60 (not X), so try comparing from that.

City is definitely cooler than before due to rear DX30 (low VLT, high spec, silver-based sputter). I tried comparing FWS VKool Elite vs side windows DX60. Not apple to apple comparison coz windscreen definitely thicker than side windows. So under the sun, try putting my hand near the windscreen of City VKool vs DX60 side windows. Then put hands under Civic D60 windscreen and DX60 side windows (there is a difference in my side windows coz Civic DX60 side windows have additional layer...aka security tint while City side windows is 1mm thinner...just pure DX60 without additional layer).

My conclusion is DX60 feels similar or slightly cooler than VKool Elite but VKool Elite is still slightly cooler than D60. Problem is DX60 is substantially darker (lower VLT) than VKool Elite. D60 nearer optically to VKool Elite VLT but heat resistant not as good (close lar...)

Please note that the dark here is not VLT30 type of dark but vs VKool clear tint.... but still clear.

Mismatched mixed of tints, right....a bit confusing.
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Thanks. Yes I've read your earlier post on this thread. The DX series of Irispro are not listed on the website. There's only Diamond series (D60 and D30) and Elite series (Elite 70, Elite 50, Elite 35, Elite 15 and Elite 05). The D60 VLT is 60% so if the DX60 is has a lower VLT than D60, it's a lot riskier already to go with DX60 for front windscreen. If measured VLT of DX60 is 54%, may I ask the advertised VLT of the DX60?

If I am going to change the tint on my front windscreen and possibly the side(front), it's down to these two only, V-kool Elite (front) and V-kool 55 (side front) or Irispro D60 (front) and Elite 50 (side front). The side rear and rear tint are on cheap but dark tints so I would just leave them as they are assuming they are effective to a certain point. Perhaps not excellent heat rejection performance but fair performance. Doing the whole car with good tints will cost a lot so by doing the front and side front will reduce the cost by half.


 

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