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Cavino
post Jan 26 2024, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 26 2024, 12:19 PM)
Thanks. Yes I've read your earlier post on this thread. The DX series of Irispro are not listed on the website. There's only Diamond series (D60 and D30) and Elite series (Elite 70, Elite 50, Elite 35, Elite 15 and Elite 05). The D60 VLT is 60% so if the DX60 is has a lower VLT than D60, it's a lot riskier already to go with DX60 for front windscreen. If measured VLT of DX60 is 54%, may I ask the advertised VLT of the DX60?

If I am going to change the tint on my front windscreen and possibly the side(front), it's down to these two only, V-kool Elite (front) and V-kool 55 (side front) or Irispro D60 (front) and Elite 50 (side front). The side rear and rear tint are on cheap but dark tints so I would just leave them as they are assuming they are effective to a certain point. Perhaps not excellent heat rejection performance but fair performance. Doing the whole car with good tints will cost a lot so by doing the front and side front will reduce the cost by half.
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If I'm not wrong it is 58% for DX60. For D60, it is advertised as 60% and on windscreen real reading is is 56%. The fact that my side windows with single DX60 on City showed VLT 54%, it should not be different coz my rear side windows and rear windscreen using DX30 showed exact same reading 22% although windscreen are supposedly thicker.

Adding security layer shoot the DX60 down to 48% but windscreen won't use security layer. I'm not sure the quality of Elite heat resistant. Some might say, side windows not important but while driving, actually the hot sun shining on driver, the side is particularly important as it hit directly on on arms, hands, etc. I put particular attention to comfort (maximized them).

The problem of doing individual window tints is just like ala carte menu. Set menu much cheaper but when you go piece by piece, it is much higher price in general. My initial plan to change the whole car tint to VKool Elite again is VKool Elite front, VK-55 front side and VK30 rear...for Civic, its RM4850 quoted price from HQ for VKool Elite. Did Irispro DX series at near 3K. Diamond series is around 2688 whole package, Elite around 2388. Just tint windscreen alone is RM1600++. So for figure which one is more worth it. That is the previous quoted price. Come March 2024, I figure price might goes up again due to 2% ST taxes.

So I rushing to do all stuff that needs to be done before March 2024. Impact might be small but then again, it might adds up. Since it needs to be done, why not do it now. Thats my 2 cents.

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post Jan 26 2024, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 01:22 PM)
If I'm not wrong it is 58% for DX60. For D60, it is advertised as 60% and on windscreen real reading is is 56%. The fact that my side windows with single DX60 on City showed VLT 54%, it should be around there. Adding security layer shoot the DX60 down to 48% but windscreen won't use security layer, just the main DX60 tint.

The problem of doing individual window tints is just like ala carte menu. Set menu much cheaper but when you go piece by piece, it is much higher price in general. My initial plan to change the whole car tint to VKool Elite again is VKool Elite front, VK-55 front side and VK30 rear...for Civic, its RM4850 quoted price from HQ for VKool Elite. Did Irispro DX series at near 3K. Diamond series is around 2688 whole package, Elite around 2388. Just tint windscreen alone is RM1600++. So for figure which one is more worth it. That is the previous quoted price. Come March 2024, I figure price might goes up again due to 2% ST taxes.
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I see, thanks for the pricing. So, V-kool Elite (front), VK55 (front side) and VK30(rear side and rear) costs RM4850 and V-kool Elite whole car only costs RM2388? Big difference there. Might as well just do whole car with V-kool elite if it's just RM2388 and just stick a 2nd layer of cheap dark tint on the side rear and rear. maybe just adding RM200-300 to make it darker for anyone who desires darker windscreens at the rear?? Much cheaper that way than doing the full optimal V-kool option at RM4850?

Looks like Irispro is much cheaper.

Good information thanks. Will inquire when the time is right.
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post Jan 26 2024, 01:30 PM

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FWIW my old Nissan Sylphy (sold several years ago) came with all V-kool Elite whole car. That option cost me RM3k back then in 2009 but I took it as a package with Nissan who offered that together with the new car.
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post Jan 26 2024, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 26 2024, 01:28 PM)
I see, thanks for the pricing. So, V-kool Elite (front), VK55 (front side) and VK30(rear side and rear) costs RM4850 and V-kool Elite whole car only costs RM2388? Big difference there. Might as well just do whole car with V-kool elite if it's just RM2388 and just stick a 2nd layer of cheap dark tint on the side rear and rear. maybe just adding RM200-300 to make it darker for anyone who desires darker windscreens at the rear?? Much cheaper that way than doing the full optimal V-kool option at RM4850?

Looks like Irispro is much cheaper.

Good information thanks. Will inquire when the time is right.
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I think misunderstand liao....Irispro Elite is 2388....not VKool. VKool, if I'm not wrong whether using Elite or VK55, V30, all same price package. I can't remember correctly but if I'm not wrong, even City, whole VKool Elite is around over 4K liao...

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post Jan 26 2024, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 01:22 PM)
For D60, it is advertised as 60% and on windscreen real reading is 56%.
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This probably varies with car. I posted some time ago my readings for front side window with D60 and rear with D30. If windscreen difference is probably -2% only at most compared to front side window. My reading at the time was 59.x% (with D60) for windscreen but forgot to take picture of that one.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry107872183

When I installed there was no DX series yet, so cannot comment on that.

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Honestly, with our weather today (rainy season notwithstanding), I really wished I could install D30 for all windows on the Cross and VK30 for all windows on the Harrier, because no matter how good the tint still cannot compensate for the solar heat that’s transmitted through the visible light spectrum without dropping the VLT. But in the end I takut JPJ. sweat.gif

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post Jan 26 2024, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jan 26 2024, 01:54 PM)
This probably varies with car. I posted some time ago my readings for front side window with D60 and rear with D30.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry107872183

When I installed there was no DX series yet, so cannot comment on that.
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Whoa....how come my reading is so low..this is for my City front side windows using a new Linshang reader....
If add 2%...that will be 56% if it is D60 for my windows. Cross windows default VLT so bright kah...or the it is becoz of the new reader different type...I saw your old readers type left unused at corner of the room..

I'm not sure if there is any difference in reading for rear windscreen (which should be thicker) and rear side windows. Coz both reading same at 21%. Same with my other car reading, rear windscreen and side windows same reading.

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post Jan 26 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 01:22 PM)
If I'm not wrong it is 58% for DX60. For D60, it is advertised as 60% and on windscreen real reading is is 56%. The fact that my side windows with single DX60 on City showed VLT 54%, it should not be different coz my rear side windows and rear windscreen using DX30 showed exact same reading 22% although windscreen are supposedly thicker.

Adding security layer shoot the DX60 down to 48% but windscreen won't use security layer. I'm not sure the quality of Elite heat resistant. Some might say, side windows not important but while driving, actually the hot sun shining on driver, the side is particularly important as it hit directly on on arms, hands, etc. I put particular attention to comfort (maximized them).

The problem of doing individual window tints is just like ala carte menu. Set menu much cheaper but when you go piece by piece, it is much higher price in general. My initial plan to change the whole car tint to VKool Elite again is VKool Elite front, VK-55 front side and VK30 rear...for Civic, its RM4850 quoted price from HQ for VKool Elite. Did Irispro DX series at near 3K. Diamond series is around 2688 whole package, Elite around 2388. Just tint windscreen alone is RM1600++. So for figure which one is more worth it. That is the previous quoted price. Come March 2024, I figure price might goes up again due to 2% ST taxes.

So I rushing to do all stuff that needs to be done before March 2024. Impact might be small but then again, it might adds up. Since it needs to be done, why not do it now. Thats my 2 cents.
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Do you have the pricing for just doing the front windscreen with Irispro D60 for your car? I've got a quotation for V-kool Elite for front windscreen only RM1.3k. I'm still waiting for quotation for Cool Gard, not sure if it's any good and the price.
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post Jan 26 2024, 02:48 PM

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The new car will come with free tint, and a 2nd layer of (free) darker tint will be added to all sides (front and rear) and rear so I thought why waste it. Will just top-up a bit of money to replace the front windscreen to a good tint and the V-Kool Elite at RM1.3k (front only) is currently the top choice.

Another cheaper option is Cool Gard but not sure if it's any good but the price will be lower than V-Kool.
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post Jan 26 2024, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 26 2024, 02:31 PM)
Do you have the pricing for just doing the front windscreen with Irispro D60 for your car? I've got a quotation for V-kool Elite for front windscreen only RM1.3k. I'm still waiting for quotation for Cool Gard, not sure if it's any good and the price.
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VKool officially has only 2 official sources. VKool HQ and Tint Shop. There is lots of fake outside.

At 1.3k for front windscreen, I would have gone for VKool Elite...assuming it is from either 1 of the 2 source. Coz last I heard Diamond 60 is around RM1.6k, not sure tho. 1.3K VKool Elite. 5 years ago, I re-install with Tint Shop for that price. Sure tint-shop still give this price now? If got, can go wor...

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post Jan 26 2024, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 03:37 PM)
VKool officially has only 2 source. VKool HQ and Tint Shop. There is lots of fake outside.

At 1.3k for front windscreen, I would have gone for VKool Elite...haha..assuming it is from either 1 of the 2 source.
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Thanks. Likely going with V-kool Elite but will reconfirm that it's genuine V-Kool tint but doubt it will be fake since the arrangement is by the new car sales guy and not from tint shop outside. After looking at the Cool Gard prices(significantly cheaper at RM380, RM580, 680 and 830)and the website which is non-existent (no spec for Cool Gard tint), will not consider it.

3M Crystalline is also RM1.3k but I presume V-Kool Elite is better, also from personal experience it's confirmed to have excellent heat rejection so I know I can't go wrong with this one.

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post Jan 26 2024, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 26 2024, 03:41 PM)
Thanks. Likely going with V-kool Elite but will reconfirm that it's genuine V-Kool tint but doubt it will be fake since the arrangement is by the new car sales guy and not from tint shop outside. After looking at the Cool Gard prices and the website which is non-existent (no spec for Cool Gard tint), will not consider it.
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Err....don't be surprise, this type of tint arrangement from car sales man (not official company) can be personal connection, meaning don't under company. Many does that. In that case, the source might not be verifiable. Checked the warranty card for the tint comes from what source.

From what I know, there are 2 official sources, NVK Interior (VKool HQ) and their Master Distributor TINT-SHOP. The warranties to tied back to either 2 parties. I may be wrong tho.

Also 3M got 1 big problem for me....Smart Tag tak boleh guna. Not acceptable for highway traveller like me. Got RFID but many times forced to use smart tag too...

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post Jan 26 2024, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 26 2024, 03:41 PM)
Thanks. Likely going with V-kool Elite but will reconfirm that it's genuine V-Kool tint but doubt it will be fake since the arrangement is by the new car sales guy and not from tint shop outside. After looking at the Cool Gard prices(significantly cheaper at RM380, RM580, 680 and 830)and the website which is non-existent (no spec for Cool Gard tint), will not consider it.

3M Crystalline is also RM1.3k but I presume V-Kool Elite is better, also from personal experience it's confirmed to have excellent heat rejection so I know I can't go wrong with this one.
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There’s a saying in Malaysia. If you’re locked in a room with a king cobra and a car salesman and have a gun with only one bullet, you shoot the car salesman.

Unless this particular salesman has a longstanding relationship with you, I suggest you don’t put complete trust in him. If he claims to have contact, tell him you will go to the shop yourself and mention his name. If genuine, then he will have no problems with that arrangement.

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post Jan 26 2024, 08:25 PM

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Thanks for all responses. The V-kool installer is from the 2 companies as mentioned which is the same. Warranty card will be given for the installation. The sales person is my brother in laws friend so can be considered to be genuine.

Tried to get the price down to RM1k but failed. Outside price is said to be RM1.5k for front windscreen (V- Kool Elite) and RM1.3k is said to be the lowest.
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post Jan 27 2024, 04:06 PM

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Quick one. Let say if doing the whole car with V-kool Elite, and then sticking 2nd layer of cheap but darker tint on the sides and rear windscreens, it won't affect the heat rejecting performance of the vehicle but improve it slightly more right?

Any advice appreciated.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 27 2024, 04:06 PM)
Quick one. Let say if doing the whole car with V-kool Elite, and then sticking 2nd layer of cheap but darker tint on the sides and rear windscreens, it won't affect the heat rejecting performance of the vehicle but improve it slightly more right?

Any advice appreciated.
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Not advisable coz high chances of cheap tint gone bad plus much shorter tint lifespan on cheap tint. Then you have to remove both layer of tints to replace.
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post Jan 27 2024, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Jan 27 2024, 04:39 PM)
Not advisable coz high chances of cheap tint gone bad plus much shorter tint lifespan on cheap tint. Then you have to remove both layer of tints to replace.
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Thanks for the information. Say if durability or short life span of the cheap tint is not a factor, performance-wise the cheap tint won't affect the heat rejection performance of the expensive tiny but slightly improve it. Will this be the case?
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 27 2024, 05:07 PM)
Thanks for the information. Say if durability or short life span of the cheap tint is not a factor, performance-wise the cheap tint won't affect the heat rejection performance of the expensive tiny but slightly improve it. Will this be the case?
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Performance wise lower vlt naturally will reduce the emission of infrared ray thus increase the heat rejection capacity. Number of tint layers not a factor but rather the overall ray filter from the tint or tints will determine how cool the cabin will be in a hot sunny day.
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Also multiple layers increases the chances that your windows cannot be rolled down.
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post Jan 28 2024, 09:48 AM

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Thanks for the responses. I just found out that the "cheap tint" included in the package is actually not exactly cheap as the price which is printed together with the price list of the car as an add-on is close to the V-kool Elite. The brand of the tint is Ice Cool.

At first I was entertaining the idea of going with the full package of V-kool Elite for the whole car since the price is quite attractive and then adding the 2nd layer of Ice Cool darker tint which will be free. However, after knowing that the cost of the Ice Cool tint is close to the V-kool Elite and will be included free with the car (2 layers for sides and rear), may just add V-kool Elite for front windscreen only and maintain the free tints for the sides and rear.

2 layers of the tint on the side windscreens have proven to be not an issue as it was installed on many customers vehicles, given as free together with the package. The heat rejection performance of the tint is said to be good since the VLT is low. Dark tints will be a lot more effective than light tints, and since dark tints can be installed at the rear and side rear, there is no restriction. It is only the front sides and front windscreen which require high VLT so the good expensive tint with high VLT is required here as the cheap tint with high VLT will feel like no tint under the hot sun.

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post Jan 28 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 27 2024, 05:07 PM)
Thanks for the information. Say if durability or short life span of the cheap tint is not a factor, performance-wise the cheap tint won't affect the heat rejection performance of the expensive tiny but slightly improve it. Will this be the case?
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Effective VLT is increased obviously, but in terms of the potential damage the cheap tint will do to your expensive tint, I don’t think it’s prudent. Remember that practically no installer in this country (including majority of the higher end ones) follows best practices for film installation (eg: using distilled or deionized water), so you’re multiplying the chances of adding an additional layer of contamination.

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