bad luck.
That pricey tint.

What is the price range for a reasonable good tint? No need fancy ones, just one that can make the car cooler.

Never trust those tint with long years of warranty especially the cap ayam ones.

Mine with warranty 5 years but like yours after around 3 years tint faded a lot. Luckily the shop still around and got them to replace all FOC. Now started to fade again after another 3 years but warranty is over so will have to replace again own cost in another year or 2.

Ceramic tint absorb heat, metal-based tint reflect them.

Based on Irispro explanation, usually smart tag got blocked by metal-based tint is also partly because the of IRR wavelength used. Smartag uses wavelength at 950nm or something like that. 3M metal based tint supposedly have high IRR AND used the same wavelength as smart tag thus it interfered directly with smart tag.

If the tint uses different wavelength (Irispro uses 1400nm) for the IRR, then, there is no clashes no matter how high the IRR is. Thus even if the IRR of the Irispro premium diamond series is at 96%, my Civic screen does measured at that range, it can go thru Smart tag, no issue.

So you have to check for different brand metal-based tint, some can go thru, some cannot.

My old City with few years old VKool Elite Windscreen measured 63% VLT, UVR 99% with IRR 98% with the same Irispro meter.

Now I also understand why VKool Elite stating 71~75% VLT cannot pass Puspakom. After installed, the VLT actually drop so near to 60%. No wonder those 80% tint superhot like not tint and Elite worked so well coz its way below JPJ compliancy rules.

Anyway, I tot VKool Elite supposed to be IRR94% or something tho. Don't know what IRR reading they are showing. Might check with them later.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 8 2024, 05:25 PM

but under hot sun, isn't metal feel very hot???

Share with you guys my yearly Puspakom inspection with an Perodua Alza.

I always do langgar-dinding style. Inspect first and fix what fails since reinspect only cost RM30 and I stay 15min away from nearest branch.

Recently, I'm experimenting tinting with Puspakom, past years tested LED lights, brake absorber conditions.

Before I changed my tint, the car runs on stock Llumar tint from Perodua which passed Puspakom every year.

Last year, I have changed the tint film, I went for 70/50/MAX according to JPJ spec.

First try. Failed the front windscreen, Passed on side windows based on first photo result: Front only got 46 VLT out of 70. Side passed exact 50.


Went home, tear off front film only. Went back again. and PASSED.
Apparently even with original bare Perodua windscreen, only score 76. Means we have to use like 6-10 rated tint film which is closed to an aquarium. Thats the reason when I chose a 30 film, after test I got a 46 result (76-30)



In a nutshell, MOT/JPJ so-called VLT for front windscreen spec makes no sense. Might as well set the rule strictly no color tint film allowed than giving false hope. I read Llumar and 3M have 90VLT film, spec sheet for 3M show 86% means if I install it. Final inspection should be 76-14 which is 62VLT. Wonder Puspakom would close eye for extra 8.

Anyone willing to share 3M, LLumar front windscreen only price?

This post has been edited by chyu89: Jan 12 2024, 06:51 AM

Metal especially silver, titanium, etc reflect most of the heat first and absorb/conduct the remaining. Silver is in one of the better heat conductor and reflector, thus silver are used in many application that to reflect heat, the only problem is it can be can form silver sulfite that looks like rust (but not rust, just tarnish/discoloured) when exposed to air and humidity. Titanium has no such issue in discolouration but is lower in heat reflection than silver. Other good metal conductor like copper and brass worked great too but they tend to form a greenish film when exposed to environmental element, so not used much in metal tint sputtering.

Metal does feel very hot under hot sun but reflective metal reflect most heat first and then absorb the remaining. Metal conduct heat thus can cool faster too. Silver and white cars generally tend to be cooler than dark coloured cars. That is science. Metal feel hot but also dispersed the heat faster.

Do note most metal sputter tints tend to have a mixture of metal inside, not just one type but will list the primary metal used in the sputtering process.

I talked like I know a lot about metal based tint....in reality, since I go tint premium metal-based tint, just google can get the info to try justify my purchase lar...hahaha..



This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 12 2024, 09:52 AM

The side 48, 47 can pass kah....becoz the vendor accidentally do full 5mm DX60 tint (with extra clear tint to form security tint) for my Civic FD. I don't want security tint, I want JPJ compliancy at least for the side windows. Their device read VLT 48%. Then for my old City, I specifically instruct to use only the DX60 tint only without the extra layer for side windows. VLT is 54%.

If next time, change owner name, don't know the side windows can pass or not. Heard Puspakom have 10% buffer for leniency but not so sure. Heard their device tend to read lower result than shop measurement tool.

I already give up on JPJ compliancy for windscreen tint coz my old City VKool Elite showed 63%. Failed even before using Puspakom meter. So just go tint the Civic with D60 CLEAR tint with reading of final 56%. Still look clear (not dark tint).

U need to understand the windscreen already had its own VLT on it. Even u put safer than JPJ rules VLT, combine it with windscreen VLT, it make overall passing the VLT limit by JPJ. Based on last experience with Puspakom, anything higher than it, it will reject/fail it

Just standby rm500-700 for decent spec windscreen tint only for brand u mentioned.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jan 12 2024, 09:31 AM

Can someone help me choose? Ray Barrier 4+ and 6+ are almost the same except the thickness. If security is not an issue, any reason for me to go for the more expensive 6+?

BTW, I am not interested to make window darker. Thanks in advance.



This post has been edited by touristking: Jan 12 2024, 11:13 AM

Any other suggestions for quality tint? RhinePro? IrisPro? Looking to tint estima front windscreen & front windows only.

Prefer metallic to reject heat. High % IRR & UV. VLT JPJ-compliance & clear at night.

Now looking at Vkool Elite & Solar Gard LX but both asking RM2xxx for 3 pcs only.


or cheapo tint? Some new tint shop EZ Cool say 3pcs for RM3xx. Seems sketchy as hell.

This post has been edited by xkaizoku: Jan 12 2024, 06:18 PM

I believe they have factor in some buffer. Just not sure how much their buffer can go. Probably Perodua side windows are pure aquarium glass. Cant be sure with those Conti car.

If 10% means 70VLT can drop max to 63VLT.

This is why IRR readings should be taken with a pinch of salt. Many companies, even respected brands, market their film IRR based on readings on a single specific wavelength, usually the wavelength where their film has the highest IRR reading. This why 3M Crystalline measures well in the 900nm-1000nm range. Usually shop that sells 3M will demo using those white Linshang handheld meters that measure the 940nm wavelength only. Same for IrisPro that measures at 1400nm (blue Lingshang meters). V-Kool in the old days based on what I recall from their old printed brochures, actually uses the average or median IRR reading taken at 100nm intervals across the 900nm-1700nm range. Some companies like Prestige (Spectra Photosync IRD) claim to give you the median reading from 900nm-2200nm. Obviously these are just claims, and we have no way to ascertain this unless we have the resources and equipment to test the films ourselves.

Thats why now i'm going for cheap tint below rm500
If can stand more than 2 yrs, worth aldy
Also this cheap tint we no need to worry if not folo jpj spec coz cheap to throw away

If using car for long term and parking under hot sun, cheap tints might not protect dashboard colour from fading.

Not to mentioned, its ok to keep changing tints but for rear demister windscreen, everytime change, the risk of damaging the demister is higher. Cheaper tints with bubble and lousy gum might just damage them.

If cheap tints degraded greatly year to year, the protection they provided would be much lesser every year. Depends on our own preference tho.

I prefer using a premium ones... fire and forget for many years, tint degradation is minimal thus dashboard, leather, degradation due to UV and heat are minimized as much as possible.

Thus my 18 years old City and 15 years old Civic dashboard, side plastic, rear panels colour does not fade at all or at least does not looks faded. Looks very new inside the car. It helps with annual coating and good tints.

If you are not into security tint, Barrier 4+ lar. No need to think.

Which brand you using or can recommend? Because when go to shop, they all say theirs is good.

If you want JPJ compliancy for front Windscreen, you have to choose those with at LEAST 80% VLT or above. Forget about good heat rejection at that range. Cannot be help, near to half of the heat comes from light, slightly more than half comes from IRR.

So most top heat rejection clear tints will likely fail the Puspakom test. VKool Elite (4 to 5 years old) for my old Honda City measured 63%. Elite is rated on paper at 71% to 74% with 3mm glass but in reality, on much lower our Windscreen.

So I just gave up front Windscreen JPJ compliancy and installed CLEAR tint with high heat rejection aka Vkool Elite, Irispro D60/DX60 for front. If you want JPJ compliancy, you have to sacrifice with much weaker heat rejection.

Side tints are easier, just choose tints at 60% rated on paper, should be quite save. Those rated 50 will go likely go below in actual installation.

Unfortunately for 3 pcs top range tint, they are really priced something like that for Estima (consider large MPV). Even Irispro should not go too far from the figure. Can give their IRISPro a call if you are in Klang Valley, Puchong and Klang branch, same manager handling but don't give much hope on much lower pricing. But if you want JPJ compliancy, I think the only tint qualified for that is their lower Ceramic range (CS8080), but TSER rated at 43% on paper vs their Diamond series 60. Price definitely cheaper than their top range ones.

Problem is the tint hue colouring, using different brands or even different range might produced different hue colouring...since you only replace 3, the hue might not match.

I don't now ler...I also search a long time for premium tint to replace VKool Elite. I think currently, this is the closest premium metal-based tint beside 3M. So I can't say for other brands. Considered other brands pro and cons (all got both good and bad review, so confusing).

If want metallic and don't mind the price, I would still recommend the proven VKool Elite, the real one from VKool HQ and Tintshop. Really satisfied with their long term performance but now priced out from my reach liao. Crazy 4K plus for Honda City and 5K plus for CRV, Civic.

I try go back to metal-based sputter tint, smart tag friendly is A MUST. So 3M is a no go, VKool Elite I want to go but cannot afford to go. Hahaha...

If you have read, I've just installed Irispro Diamond X (their listed top range is Diamond) on both my old Civic and City. Ya, crazy paying premium price for old cars but I cannot afford to change cars liao, so they are here to stay.

Diamond X is their new Silver-based metallic sputter vs Diamond's Titanium sputter. Have full UV and HEV Blue Light protection. Half or 2/3 the price of VKool Elite. Diamond X not listed in their website yet. DX has better heat rejection than the D series but silver-based tint...might discolor but with 10 years warranty, giving it a go. DX is about 4 to 5mm while D is 3mm. I think DX qualified as security tint liao if based on thickness.

This time, instead of full clear VKool Elite tint all around, following the trend, I used D60/DX60 for front and side, rear side and demister, I used D30X. Smart tag friendly, surprisingly IR for those housing estate can work too albeit with some delay (VKool Elite don't work). RFID is on my car lamp. Not recommended to put on RFID on windows for metal-based tint.

Of course DX30 performance with only 21-22VLT noticeably reduced the heat a LOT more than VKool Elite BUT....for D60, I feel VKool Elite performed a tiny bit better in heat rejection no matter what they listed on paper but this is just unsubstantiated feeling, no prove. Forget about the device reading. I feel DX60 is nearer to VKool Elite in heat feel (feel is just that, no prove). However D60/DX60 is noticeably darker due to their VLT at 60 on paper vs VKool Elite 70. Quite like the light penetration lighting tho, cabin have a comfortable hazy slight greenish lighting. VKool Elite is much brighter without any greenish lighting although their hue on outside is greenish.

DX30 with 21-22VLT lighting in cabin is light brownish, not dark, not greenish black. The DX60 light for front side windows are more toward greenish and a hint of brown.

At 20+ VLT, I expect it to be dark (ecotint black pearl experience) but no, it's light brown instead, likely the effect of HEV Blue Light filtering. Under the sun, from outside, dark mirror finish , can't see inside clearly but from inside, surprisingly it's light brown, no claustrophobic feel, quite comfortable brown. Just initially feel a bit weird having brown lighting at the rear and greenish with a hint of brown in front. I could see thru them the DX30 tints quite clearly at night, no glare. Reverse parking at night in my car porch, no problem. I guess, if really want to go dark, cannot use 30, have to go at least 15 or below.

So am I satisfied with the tints after a month? Yes, feel premium, DX series cabin lighting is much darker (that's the idea) than previous VKool Elite, the rear heat is greatly reduced due to the DX30 tints. Comfortable hazy light penetration (HEV Blue Light filtering comfortable to eyes??), not too bright, not too dark. View and glare at night is good. Just DX60 and DX30 gives different colour hue...some might not like it if they want the same hue. From outside, more mirror reflection, can comb hair.

Just sakit hati becoz of the premium price...for old cars. I think the tint warranty might last longer than the cars. Workmanship to remove old tint from demister is superb, installation workmanship is ok. Got to replaced a couple of windows tint due to dust and some bubble, but they don't delay or give excuse, got problem, come in check, straight replace, I'm satisfied with their response to replace any tints due to issues.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 15 2024, 06:41 PM