Hey guys, i will be getting ford fiesta in white soon. Shud i do coating for my car which will cost RM1500 from Gzox or to polish it every year will do?

Let me diverge first:
Coating and polishing are two different terms and so each of them has its own unique meaning.

Coating layer serves as a protective layer or "sacrificial layer" against direct damage to the existing/underlying car paint.
Polishing is a mean of correcting the defects (eg: scratches, swirl marks, orange peel,etc.) on the car paint.

Even with coating, you still need to perform proper regular maintenance. As time goes, eventually you still need to polish your car to remove the defects (minor defects are on the sacrificial layer instead of on the actual car paint layer) and re-apply the coating after polish.

How long do you need to polish again even you have a coating? I am not sure either. IMO, it depends on how OCD you are on the condition of the car paint. I would leave this to other sifus to reply.

Back to topic: Should you apply coating layer? I would say if you have extra budget, go ahead and do that as the main purpose of coating is to protect the existing car paint layer. (Does it worth the money, particularly on G'zox coating? Perhaps you can refer to the following link -> http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?showtopic=99004)

I hope I did answer your question at some point, probably. Haha. Do correct me if I am wrong as I am on the learning stage too.

This post has been edited by windskill: Dec 17 2013, 01:22 AM

With coating, in order to have the 'warranty' from the detailer, you will have to go back to them with special maintainance e.g wash, polish, touch up etc...and these maintenance is not cheap.

I would recommend coating if you know HOW TO DIY and maintain it yourself (need to study the behavior and characteristic of the coating)

Same as my past post in AW, if you want to go for Gzox, make sure it's at least the Real Glass Coat or higher grades (i.e. Quartz 7 or HiMohs). Flourine Coat isn't as durable and, personally, not worth it.

Mind you even the RGC is prone to water marks, more than if using normal wax/sealant. So maintenance (regular wash) is A MUST else the coating will get contaminated and loose it's beading/sheeting properties in no time.

I'm just going by past experience and observations with Megs other waxess/selants here as I haven't use Megs White Wax before.

First, a question, how's the front and rear windscreen? Are they as contaminated as the paint? Are the glass also more difficult then normal to clean? (don't compare with paint....just the glass only). If so, then it's in the rain...exceptionally dirty rain with lots of pollutant picked up during the downpour. Localised incident.

Second, I'd have to say that Megs are top notch with their polishes, cleaners and dressings but their waxes/sealants are mostly a bit of a disappointment to me. They just don't last and I do feel that the protection provided aren't that suitable to our climate. I've tried a few of Megs waxes and sealants (except for those Ultimate range) and they're quite prone to 'staining', especially if exposed to our hot sun right after rains. Yeah....and those stain aren't easy to remove by normal shampoo wash - need to use cleaners (e.g. all purpose cleaner).

But it surprises me when you say it took much effort to remove them with UQD. I've used UQD and it's pro range equivalent M135 and I'd say it's one of the 'strongest' QD in the market with great cleaning abilities.

I can only assume that it's the wax itself. Either the protection is to weak and easily get contaminated or it's already contaminated at the start. Megs White Wax is marketed as an AIO (All In One) with cleaner, abrasives and wax. Normally, AIOs aren't that durable in term of protection. When you're applying the wax, did your applicator gets dirty? If so, then what you're applying onto the paint is also 'contaminated' and will not perform at it's best. Try reapplying, say, on one half of the front hood or boot lid again. This time do two rounds. 1st round is to clean the surface and remove all the contaminant and second round, without pressure on the applicator pad, use it as if you're applying a wax/sealant. Leave it for a half an hour or so before buffing off the access residue. See if there's any difference in protection or durability.

At this stage I can only offer troubleshooting steps as, like I said, I haven't tried Megs White/Black Wax and don't own a white car. Maybe acefreakz can chime in with his experience in maintaining his whitey with an AIO.

The glass are dirty as well, but easily washed off with wash mitt. Only the stains at the paintwork there is so difficult to remove. I never use the APC in my washing solution, thus washing alone did not clean up those stains.

I'm thinking that the wax itself is not protecting so well, and being washed off easily. The white wax actually makes the applicator dirty. That's why I'm waxing my car every 2 weeks instead of once in a month since I already know it is not lasting.

My doubt is that, since carnauba wax is a natural wax, does it "melt" and become sticky thus more prone to attract dusts during rain?

Thanks sifu KrisMas for the lengthy explanation.

clean glass sheets of water NATURALLY, if your glass is not doing that then it's still dirty despite what you think it is.
another way to be sure is to use a plastic bag test.

anyways from your case, i think you didn't do proper preparation (eg: claying) before waxing. hence the wax is performing poorly.

look up meguiar's website for steps, and like most things especially detailing/painting - surface preparation is critical.
again, your doubt is void as it could easily be your surface preparation as modern carnauba waxes aren't prone to melting that easily as they have synthetic polymers/carriers.

Yeah...most paste/waxes with carnauba ingredients seems to do that in our weather...normal...it's the heat and humidity.

Is there a lot of difference in maintaining cars with solid colors compared to metallic ones?read somewhere on the net that u shuldn't clay solid colored cars?

Ya, I never try claying before yet.

Thanks sifu. Will change to other product after this white wax finish.

- no difference
- what you read was misinformation.
claying is still good/needed

ya..is RGC....is Rm1500 considered a good investment for the RGC? i got no idea how much is coating costs....

That's a good price for RGC. This place doesn't happen to be located at Sunway Damansara Tech Park is it?

so ngam meh?

nt too sure...my SA quote me 1

Bro, any mid range price car shampo without wax to introduce?

Cuz I only know of two places that can do a good quality coating job at sub-2k price....

empty?

....easier said then done....

no wonder you need to answer so many questions everyday

they should make you a staff member