Share with us, what ppl comment abt setia alam when SA just started? What SA had upon that time? Cyber has all the right factors after Setia Haruman revised their plan few yrs ago. Just need time as any other suburbs.

Two arguements here... First is the demographic and support of upgraders from surrouding area. SA has support from places like Klang, Meru etc as upgraders for well-planned township with amenities and modern design houses.

Second is Setia Alam houses starts from low base... The first few phases landed launches was below RM300K and going up during the 5/95 heyday and property market booming. This has encouraged people to move in to achieve the population mass of scale.

where else for Cyberjaya, the landed prices start from RM700k (For Garden Residence link houses) where it render Cyberjaya unaffordable to most of the mass market. Currently even the cheapest landed like Laman View is approximately RM600k and apparetntly from forum feedback, it is selling well.

i think Cyberjaya and Setia Alam is not the the direct comparison where both are serving different market. Even if you look at Setia Alam now, they are focus on selling affordable apartment because they realize it is no longer easy to sell those RM1m landed property anymore. There are thousand and thousands of sub RM300k hitting Setia Alam in next 2-3years. Do you think it is not going to be oversupply in Setia Alam as well for the affordable segment?

Just to add my 0.02 cents view:

I was in Cyberjaya in year 2001/2002 and worked there until 2006.
Yes, saw the first few buildings being constructed.
The famous City Command Centre (CCC) was still under construction then.
Gone in and played with some of the monitors. It was really a view to see so many monitors on the wall. Felt a bit like the command centre of a space station.
LKW was also under construction then.
Erricson building was the joke of everyone because it looked like a coffin.

Food was like non existence. You have a street mall which only had 2 to 3 food stall that sell chicken rice that taste like left-over. Unless you can afford to eat at Cyberview Lodge every day (i once a week also cannot afford).

Had to tapau food every day or drive down to dengkil for lunch.
Make sure ur car has fuel and tyres are in good condition, if you stranded in Cyber, no one going to come looking for you.
Raining season sure got alot of accidents in front of LKW because the rain will bring down alot of muddy sand from the construction work at LKW on to the road. You drive fast on the long winding road and the next thing you know you ram the palm oil tree.

After one year, have to change car windscreen bcos everyday kena stones from the construction lorries. If unluncky, change twice a year until insurance don't want to cover.

Only residential was Cyberia Smarthomes. Which is more like an African Camp.

Today, after almost 10 years, I visited Cyber again.
Was shock to see so many developments there. Food is abundance and you have siew york and char siew.

Cinema, Shopping Mall, Starbucks, Street Mall (not those i experience 10 years ago) etc are all there. Residential are aplenty abit some under construction. Landed is still premium but at least there are more.

The street are clean and there are cars around, parking at the road side. And you see people walking around and there are some pretty girls. It looks abit like Singapore with clean street and nice cars driving around.

To sum it up,
if you see a child when he/she was 2 years old and you left for overseas only to come back and then see the same child 10 years later, you will note how much he/she has grown.

If you see the child every day continuously for 10 years, you will not be amaze at the growth the child has gone thru and you will find it "normal"

I see Cyberjaya as the next growth area. Almost every developer has a project there.

It is no longer a question of "if", it is a question of "when"

Cyberjaya just need another 100K population.

the earliest links in setia alam started from 180k. 5 storey apartments even cheaper.....like 70k only.

links at Garden residence started from high 500k...something like 580.

Its according to SA plan to launch apartments now as the landed project in the left side of SA is fully sold. They did launch limited landed on right hand side and it was fully sold. Remember people queuing for one week early this year to grab units? Price from 800k per landed unit.

there could be over supply of 12 storey apartments as setia built like 6000units in one go. But these are around 300k units in subsale....easy to hold or digest......not too worried.

I cant comment on cyber......don't know enuf to comment.

Maybe soon Eco Park will sell apartment if they still cannot sell off their landed....

Gradually cyberian will get there.
It's not a matter of 'How' but 'how soon'.

Totally agree with that, it's not 'how' but 'how soon'...

The empty units will eventually be occupied by tenants. For those without holding power, they either sell it/rent it cheap or even sell their existing property elsewhere and move in to Cyberjaya. I foresee many will move in to Cyberjaya if Cyberjaya property has not unlock it's potential value, might be a sad truth.    Another reason they will move in to Cyberjaya is also due to the nicer environment, many bought for investment, but eventually they might decide to move when it's ready.

Anyway, from the growth perspective, oversupply might attract many to move in here too with 'competitive' rent. For investors buying to rent, I think it will be renters market so dont have too high expectation. Don't believe agent or developer claiming high rental. It really depends on your luck. Well, I think this is common issue to any new development, not Cyberjaya specific issue.

No matter how the market does, there's only one way for the population growth and it's going up up and up, and that's increasing a lot in tandem with the supply.   It's important to have more stay-in population as Cyberjaya lacks stay-in population for many years since it started in 1997. There's not enough residential units in Cyberjaya, that's the reason existing condo can demand premium rent. With steady growth of day & night time population, it only bodes well for the commercials in Cyberjaya. Seriously again I will say Cyberjaya is shaping up in the right direction. It's only few years ago Cyberjaya is open to other developers, now you can see and feel the changes already.

Totally agree with that, it's not 'how' but 'how soon'...

The empty units will eventually be occupied by tenants. For those without holding power, they either sell it/rent it cheap or even sell their existing property elsewhere and move in to Cyberjaya. I foresee many will move in to Cyberjaya if Cyberjaya property has not unlock it's potential value, might be a sad truth.    Another reason they will move in to Cyberjaya is also due to the nicer environment, many bought for investment, but eventually they might decide to move when it's ready.

Anyway, from the growth perspective, oversupply might attract many to move in here too with 'competitive' rent. For investors buying to rent, I think it will be renters market so dont have too high expectation. Don't believe agent or developer claiming high rental. It really depends on your luck. Well, I think this is common issue to any new development, not Cyberjaya specific issue.

No matter how the market does, there's only one way for the population growth and it's going up up and up, and that's increasing a lot in tandem with the supply.   It's important to have more stay-in population as Cyberjaya lacks stay-in population for many years since it started in 1997. There's not enough residential units in Cyberjaya, that's the reason existing condo can demand premium rent. With steady growth of day & night time population, it only bodes well for the commercials in Cyberjaya. Seriously again I will say Cyberjaya is shaping up in the right direction. It's only few years ago Cyberjaya is open to other developers, now you can see and feel the changes already.

D'Pulze F&B list

Just to share, D'Pulze website is quite up to date. Even those opening soon also included already. Tenant list is not bad at all for a small neighbourhood mall.

Heard Centrus mall will open by end of year. It is walking distance to D'pulze but I doubt it will do well. Management plays a very important role to ensure success of a mall. Any news if they manage to secure tenant?

MaGIC to collaborate with rich nations to create more entrepreneurs

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