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TStehoice
post Sep 9 2015, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 9 2015, 12:36 PM)
I am working in KL and I had been working in IT MNC like IxM and Hewlxtt Pxckard for number of years. I am Gen X when I join the IxM as fresh grad and I leave Hx the fresh grads were occupied by Gen Y.
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My own personal opinion. Gen Y is generally creative than previous Gen and they tend to think of the box too. There are many fresh ideas from Gen Y which might be or might not be accepted by company. Gen Y open to speak their thought out freely and communication is better as well. However there are few things I discovered myself where there are comment weakness of Gen Y.

1. Careless - Working on the task is quick but less precise.

2. Less hardworking - Gen Y always emphasize on work life balance no matter in what situation. Thanks to Airasix always has promotion and Gen Y are more enjoy their life in travelling than working. I almost find none of the Gen Y willing to share the workload of other colleagues and they claim it was not inside their responsibility.

3. Less considerate - Gen Y commonly found as much ego compare to Gen X or earlier. They can argue and talk loud and rude to their senior or leader without considerate other's feeling.

4. Demanding - I am wondering how the fresh grad or Gen Y junior dare to ask for high salary or increment when they are yet to prove their performance to the employer. I have met few Gen Y asking for more than 8% increment where their KPI is average or below but even the better KPI worker is getting about 6%.

We are not saying to pay fresh grad at RM1500 but not as high as somewhere RM3000, have to be realistic figure for inexperience person. If fresh grad thinking to pack their bags to go SG it is up to them. There are many people went to SG earning big exchange rate to enjoy better lifestyle which is good thing. However my advice to those who ambitious may think twice before moving to SG as the corporate ladder for Msia is least when come to think there are many elite from SG, MY, China, Philippines, Thailand, Japan, Korea, HK, Taiwan etc countries. Many of the management posts are held by either SG people or Caucasian. There maybe 70% of Msia end by earning average of 5-7k (at least degree holder) till their retirement age and yet still stuck at senior officer role. In SG there is very least opportunity to become entrepreneur even a small retail shop, the competition is intense and small enterprise or small player unable to survive as few big players capture the whole market.

FYI, there are many big corporate or listed companies in Msia paying more than 10k salary for manager or senior manager role. For director level the remuneration can be anything more than 20k per month excluding bonus. Beside if individual want to self-employ, there are opportunities to become entrepreneur but it subject to condition such as capital, location (much bigger than SG), products etc.
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very well said. i clap for you rclxms.gif
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post Sep 9 2015, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 9 2015, 01:57 PM)
very well said. i clap for you  rclxms.gif
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I agree on this Singapore part. Through my 3 years client client servicing in that country, the senior/top management roles there is indeed occupy by Caucasian. Sg do have the mentality that 'ang Moh' is doing better than Asian.
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post Sep 9 2015, 10:37 PM

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Hi all, contributing to the thread smile.gif

Job Title : Marketing Admin Assistant
Job Desciption : Admin works & Marketing stuff like involve in education fair, cold calling to potential customers, company visit to promote products etc
Years spent in company : Not more than 1 month yet. blush.gif
Age : 23
Industry : Education
Tenure : Still in probation
Employment Level : Fresh Grad
Experience before joining : 5 months of Internship
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor of Library Science
Salary : RM 2,400
Location: Klang Valley



This post has been edited by Luke Bryan: Sep 9 2015, 10:41 PM
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post Sep 10 2015, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Luke Bryan @ Sep 9 2015, 10:37 PM)
Hi all, contributing to the thread  smile.gif

Job Title : Marketing Admin Assistant
Job Desciption : Admin works & Marketing stuff like  involve  in education fair, cold calling to potential customers, company visit to promote products etc
Years spent in company : Not more than 1 month yet.  blush.gif
Age : 23
Industry : Education
Tenure : Still in probation
Employment Level : Fresh Grad
Experience before joining : 5 months of Internship
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor of Library Science
Salary : RM 2,400
Location: Klang Valley
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Work in one of the colleges around Klang Valley?
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post Sep 10 2015, 02:43 AM

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Hi all i would like to ask for advice.

I am a chem engineering fresh grad. I got a job offer at 2.6 k, sales and service position in water treatment industry. Probation is six months with no allowance. This is the field that i dun really like and i kind of not satisfy with the starting pay as i live in kl..im currently holding the offer letter. Duno want to decline anot i scared i overestimated myself. My frens around me started at near 3k..it is just SME it is not promising they will give a good hike even after probation. Any comments?

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post Sep 10 2015, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(soyajustin @ Sep 10 2015, 02:43 AM)
Hi all i would like to ask for advice.

I am a chem engineering fresh grad. I got a job offer at 2.6 k, sales and service position in water treatment industry. Probation is six months with no allowance. This is the field that i dun really like and i kind of not satisfy with the starting pay as i live in kl..im currently holding the offer letter. Duno want to decline anot i scared i overestimated myself. My frens around me started at near 3k..it is just SME it is not promising they will give a good hike even after probation. Any comments?
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Try to send your resume to as many company as you can find with the interest being there. Don't pick one by one laugh.gif From there and choose the job that pays the best and gives you the best growth in terms of career path.

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post Sep 10 2015, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Sep 10 2015, 12:26 AM)
Work in one of the colleges around Klang Valley?
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Yes. Private college
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post Sep 11 2015, 09:27 AM

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Job Title : Reservoir Engineer
Job Desciption : Consulting, support, and training
Years spent in company : A bit more than 2 years
Age : 28
Industry : Oil and Gas
Tenure : Permanent/Full-time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience before joining : < 2 years of small fields study or project in university
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master of Engineering
Salary : Approx. RM 16,900/month (before tax)
Location: KL

Updating the benchmark. Thank God I still got the job even with this level of oil price. smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2015, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(vankodoq @ Sep 11 2015, 09:27 AM)
Job Title : Reservoir Engineer
Job Desciption : Consulting, support, and training
Years spent in company : A bit more than 2 years
Age : 28
Industry : Oil and Gas
Tenure : Permanent/Full-time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience before joining : < 2 years of small fields study or project in university
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master of Engineering
Salary : Approx. RM 16,900/month (before tax)
Location: KL

Updating the benchmark. Thank God I still got the job even with this level of oil price. smile.gif
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Gud income at yo age notworthy.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 04:38 PM

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Job Title : Assistant Sales Manager
Job Desciption : Sales, Marketing, Roadshow, Collection
Years spent in company : 4 years 6 months
Age : 26
Industry : Automotive & Industrial Lubricants
Tenure : Permanent/Full-time
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining : < 1 year sales in developer company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma in Business Management
Salary : Basic 2200 + 600~800 commision + petrol + company car + less than a month bonus + NO Trip (boss give to his own son)
Location: Sarawak

Sales area: Whole sarawak + Brunei (Driving)
Travelling: Yes (2 weeks in a month)

sad.gif Sales Manager is Tauke wife....no need work (at home)
I'm tired to travel already and nothing more to learn. Plan to work in KL because not much opportunity in Sarawak and very low pay. Things are expensive here. But I have no idea what job to apply because I have no degree and Im not familiar with KL road (Not suitable for field sales jobs). English also so so only. Any suggestion or advice? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Sep 14 2015, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Bla bla bla @ Sep 14 2015, 04:38 PM)
Job Title : Assistant Sales Manager
Job Desciption : Sales, Marketing, Roadshow, Collection
Years spent in company : 4 years 6 months
Age : 26
Industry : Automotive & Industrial Lubricants
Tenure : Permanent/Full-time
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining : < 1 year sales in developer company
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma in Business Management
Salary : Basic 2200 + 600~800 commision + petrol + company car + less than a month bonus + NO Trip (boss give to his own son)
Location: Sarawak

Sales area: Whole sarawak + Brunei (Driving)
Travelling: Yes (2 weeks in a month)

sad.gif Sales Manager is Tauke wife....no need work (at home)
I'm tired to travel already and nothing more to learn. Plan to work in KL because not much opportunity in Sarawak and very low pay. Things are expensive here. But I have no idea what job to apply because I have no degree and Im not familiar with KL road (Not suitable for field sales jobs). English also so so only. Any suggestion or advice? notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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1) Which career opportunity you're seeking in KL?
2) Improve your English
3) Don't worry abt you having degree or not, the important is you have experiences and knowledges in sales and marketing. That will be your advantages.
4) Public transport in KL ada maa...
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post Sep 16 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Sep 7 2015, 09:28 PM)
Malaysia's salary is still stuck in the 90s. Gen Y are now telling the older generation to change their mindset in terms of salary package, project timeline, using a more agile and get better tools to perform the job. RM1500 for a fresh, they might as well pack their bags and go over to Singapore and start there.
You need to guide a new generation of people but you can not use the old ways of working. You need to think outside the box and be more adaptive as time goes by. The old days are history.
What is the attraction of your company vs the big MNC?
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Maybe can consider MP laugh.gif salary increase around 150% this year "tax payer pay them moneyflies.gif but they don't seem to improve our income"
https://www.imoney.my/articles/how-much-do-...n-malaysia-earn

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post Sep 16 2015, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mika @ Sep 16 2015, 01:09 AM)
Maybe can consider MP laugh.gif salary increase around 150% this year "tax payer pay them moneyflies.gif but they don't seem to improve our income"
https://www.imoney.my/articles/how-much-do-...n-malaysia-earn

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Wow, very aspiring !

Might consider being MP after graduate.

What's the requirement? icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 16 2015, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Sep 16 2015, 04:40 PM)
Wow, very aspiring !

Might consider being MP after graduate.

What's the requirement? icon_idea.gif
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must be brave enough. need to talk very highly, or very maslanly to get famous. need to be corrupt enough. don't be afraid to get jailed.

anymore to add on?
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 16 2015, 10:30 PM)
must be brave enough. need to talk very highly, or very maslanly to get famous. need to be corrupt enough. don't be afraid to get jailed.

anymore to add on?
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Must know how to find scapegoat to deploy C4 to your enemies!
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QUOTE(vankodoq @ Sep 11 2015, 09:27 AM)
Job Title : Reservoir Engineer
Job Desciption : Consulting, support, and training
Years spent in company : A bit more than 2 years
Age : 28
Industry : Oil and Gas
Tenure : Permanent/Full-time
Employment Level : Intermediate
Experience before joining : < 2 years of small fields study or project in university
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Master of Engineering
Salary : Approx. RM 16,900/month (before tax)
Location: KL

Updating the benchmark. Thank God I still got the job even with this level of oil price. smile.gif
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wow that's a good pay for your age man! thumbup.gif can share which company are you working?
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post Sep 18 2015, 06:40 AM

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Job Title : CSP
Job Desciption : Customer service
Years spent in company : 3 months
Age : 24
Industry : US Telco
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : Fresh
Experience before joining : Graphic designer 1 year experience
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma multimedia design
Salary : RM 3200+-
Location: KL

Hi all i would like to ask for advice.

Previously when i fresh grad I was working in a fashion e-com company as graphic designer salary 2.3k. I was bought a house last year. After that I was looking for more higher income job to cover my commitment. And I join Insurance industry but after few month I dabao already. Currently I work as CSP basic+allowance around 3.2k to clear my CC debt around 4k+- and re planning my future.

Need advice regarding my future.
Continue work in this new project US Telco. Have high chance to promote as TL/trainer. Salary should be around 5k+-
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I am interest in finance wish to join in Finance field. Study the course CFA Chartered Financial Analyst level 1-3 around RM20k+
Work as analyst starting salary 2.5k+
with 1 year experience can up to 5K+ and in the future can go up to 10k.
Take around 3 year to finish the course but only 20% people will pass level 3. I think it is hard to me coz Im not from finance/acc background.

Sorry for my broken English.
Thanks

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QUOTE(iZenith @ Sep 18 2015, 06:40 AM)
Job Title : CSP
Job Desciption : Customer service
Years spent in company : 3 months
Age : 24
Industry : US Telco
Tenure : Contract
Employment Level : Fresh
Experience before joining : Graphic designer 1 year experience
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Diploma multimedia design
Salary :  RM 3200+-
Location: KL

Hi all i would like to ask for advice.

Previously when i fresh grad I was working in a fashion e-com company as graphic designer salary 2.3k. I was bought a house last year. After that I was looking for more higher income job to cover my commitment. And I join Insurance industry but after few month I dabao already. Currently I work as CSP basic+allowance around 3.2k to clear my CC debt around 4k+- and re planning my future.

Need advice regarding my future.
Continue work in this new project US Telco. Have high chance to promote as TL/trainer. Salary should be around 5k+-
OR
I am interest in finance wish to join in Finance field. Study the course CFA Chartered Financial Analyst level 1-3 around RM20k+
Work as analyst starting salary 2.5k+
with 1 year experience can up to 5K+ and in the future can go up to 10k.
Take around 3 year to finish the course but only 20% people will pass level 3. I think it is hard to me coz Im not from finance/acc background.

Sorry for my broken English.
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Unless you are certain with your career path, I suggest you not to change merely because you want to cover your commitments. Experience first, the money will come eventually. Try to save bit here and there and you would be surprise how much you could save in a month.

Best of luck! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 18 2015, 10:50 AM

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Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining : >3 years IT backgroud troubleshooting
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Salary : 4500
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Experience before joining : Unrelated ( Product engineer)
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