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 Shall we have a diet/workout post?, To Help Each Other.

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post Aug 29 2008, 04:06 AM

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heaty? really? i've never felt that before :S
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post Aug 29 2008, 07:49 AM

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hmm...it could be the chilly that i take...i love spicy food lol
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post Sep 13 2008, 11:53 AM

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is eating 15 egg white everyday too much for the kidney?


This post has been edited by kai539: Nov 18 2008, 06:02 PM
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post Sep 14 2008, 12:08 PM

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56kg at 170 cm??? and u still want to lose fat? i think you are 'thin' enough la biggrin.gif

anyway, dont worry abt the yolks.. when u eat eggs, just eat them whole. you're just throwing away the only most important part of the egg. all the vitamins, omega fats and vital cholesterol are there.

maybe if u want to lose fat faster, try cutting on rice and go for more eggs and maybe do more intense cardio (faster).

hope that helps
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post Sep 15 2008, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(kai539 @ Sep 13 2008, 11:53 AM)
can somebody help me with my diet?
my body fat level is currently 14%, i wanted to be in single digit body fat percentage, how can i reach there?

Wake up at 4:15am(cause later i gotta go to study)
do cardio for 30 minutes with empty stomach+a little crunch and chest
4:45 - two glasses of skimmed milk
7am - four egg white+potato+carrot
9am - economic rice. dining out: half cup brown rice+two greeny veggie(I'm a vegetarian but eat eggs and milk)
1pm - economic rice, dining out: half cup brown rice+two greeny veggie
3pm - 20 grams of peanut
5pm - 2 whole eggs and 1 egg white
8pm - snOOze~

basically i get 60 grams of protein every day, cause I heard that eating too much protein can lead to kidney failure and a vegetarian lifestyle is healthier and makes my mind clearer
I heard that the body can manufacture protein out of amino acid in grains, veggies and legumes, so i don't eat too much complete protein
my weight 56kg and height is about 170cm, basically an ecto
daily energy intake is about 1800kcal to 2000
can i reach 9% body fat level with this lifestyle?
(p/s: I just wanna get ripped, not bulking up)~^thanks
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eat the whole eggs, not egg whites alone.

google up cholesterol myth..
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post Sep 17 2008, 03:53 PM

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hi guys..im 75.6kg,184cm and 24 yr..aim it bulk with lean muscle...
target is 85kg in 5 months-3.5 more moths to go..So ma diet is :

Bfast:30g oats n milk,2 boiled eggs wit bread and peant butter(make bread ,egg sandwich)

Midmorn:2nestle fruit yoghurt

Lunch:Pasta witt grilled chicken or rice minced meat..fruit yoghurt,water

Preworkout:30g oats wit milk,2 bananas,

Postworkout:MAss gainer(horleys awesome mass)*(http://www.horleys.co.nz/ViewProduct.aspx?id=13)

Dinner:Rice,chicken

***Im still confused as to whether i should mix my mass gainer with milk or water.(if milk-wht type:full cream or loow fat,skimmed)..im also wondring how many times should i take..is before bed necessary as well?
i plan to change to whey mid oct after i gain some more mass from the mass gainer
thnx and any criticism is highly welcome..after all im a noobie! rclxms.gif
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post Sep 17 2008, 10:39 PM

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too much protein leeds to kidney failure ? Where do you get that info ? Can give me the source ?
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kai539 @ Sep 13 2008, 11:53 AM)
can somebody help me with my diet?
my body fat level is currently 14%, i wanted to be in single digit body fat percentage, how can i reach there?

Wake up at 4:15am(cause later i gotta go to study)
do cardio for 30 minutes with empty stomach+a little crunch and chest
4:45 - two glasses of skimmed milk
7am - four egg white+potato+carrot
9am - economic rice. dining out: half cup brown rice+two greeny veggie(I'm a vegetarian but eat eggs and milk)
1pm - economic rice, dining out: half cup brown rice+two greeny veggie
3pm - 20 grams of peanut
5pm - 2 whole eggs and 1 egg white
8pm - snOOze~

basically i get 60 grams of protein every day, cause I heard that eating too much protein can lead to kidney failure and a vegetarian lifestyle is healthier and makes my mind clearer
I heard that the body can manufacture protein out of amino acid in grains, veggies and legumes, so i don't eat too much complete protein
my weight 56kg and height is about 170cm, basically an ecto
daily energy intake is about 1800kcal to 2000
can i reach 9% body fat level with this lifestyle?
(p/s: I just wanna get ripped, not bulking up)~^thanks
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You can't get 1 digit BF level with that kind of diet. Your diet is rich in carb. 2 glasses of junk skim milk are rich in sugar, that will make you fat.
Your diet is too low in fat. You will die of degenerative disease cause by deficiency in fatty acids.

Diabetics are the ones who suffered from kidney failure. Do you think they eat more proteins than bodybuilders? Have you heard of any bodybuilders suffered from kidney failure due to hi protein diet?

BTW how many vegetarians are centenarian? hmm.gif


Added on September 18, 2008, 11:32 am
QUOTE(simbyak @ Sep 17 2008, 03:53 PM)
hi guys..im 75.6kg,184cm and 24 yr..aim it bulk with lean muscle...
target is 85kg in 5 months-3.5 more moths to go..So ma diet is :

Bfast:30g oats n milk,2 boiled eggs wit bread and peant butter(make bread ,egg sandwich)

Midmorn:2nestle fruit yoghurt

Lunch:Pasta witt grilled chicken or rice minced meat..fruit yoghurt,water

Preworkout:30g oats wit milk,2 bananas,

Postworkout:MAss gainer(horleys awesome mass)*(http://www.horleys.co.nz/ViewProduct.aspx?id=13)

Dinner:Rice,chicken

***Im still confused as to whether i should mix my mass gainer with milk or water.(if milk-wht type:full cream or loow fat,skimmed)..im also wondring how many times should i take..is before bed necessary as well?
i plan to change to whey mid oct after i gain some more mass from the mass gainer
thnx and any criticism is highly welcome..after all im a noobie! rclxms.gif
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You can't bulk with lean muscles on hi carb diet.

This post has been edited by 4Rings: Sep 18 2008, 11:32 AM
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(4Rings @ Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM)
You can't get 1 digit BF level with that kind of diet. Your diet is rich in carb. 2 glasses of junk skim milk are rich in sugar, that will make you fat.
Your diet is too low in fat. You will die of degenerative disease cause by deficiency in fatty acids.

Diabetics are the ones who suffered from kidney failure. Do you think they eat more proteins than bodybuilders? Have you heard of any bodybuilders suffered from kidney failure due to hi protein diet?

BTW how many vegetarians are centenarian? hmm.gif


Added on September 18, 2008, 11:32 am

You can't bulk with lean muscles on hi carb diet.
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would really appreciate if u told me wht to add or remove...i.e less of this and more this kind of thing!
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post Sep 19 2008, 01:53 PM

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hav a balanced diet and also balanced work out.
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post Sep 19 2008, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(4Rings @ Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM)
You can't get 1 digit BF level with that kind of diet. Your diet is rich in carb. 2 glasses of junk skim milk are rich in sugar, that will make you fat.
Your diet is too low in fat. You will die of degenerative disease cause by deficiency in fatty acids.

Diabetics are the ones who suffered from kidney failure. Do you think they eat more proteins than bodybuilders? Have you heard of any bodybuilders suffered from kidney failure due to hi protein diet?

BTW how many vegetarians are centenarian? hmm.gif


Added on September 18, 2008, 11:32 am

You can't bulk with lean muscles on hi carb diet.
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Drink whey protein instead of gainer. Eat protein food in every meal. Each meal should consist of at least 30g protein, some carbs and moderate to high fats. If you are gaining fats cut down on carbs. Protein and fat don't make you fat.
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post Sep 29 2008, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(4Rings @ Sep 19 2008, 03:09 PM)
Drink whey protein instead of gainer. Eat protein food in every meal. Each meal should consist of at least 30g protein, some carbs and moderate to high fats. If you are gaining fats cut down on carbs. Protein and fat don't make you fat.
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Listen to this golden advice ppl.
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QUOTE(jamis @ Sep 29 2008, 10:52 AM)
Listen to this golden advice ppl.
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rclxms.gif I agreed.
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post Oct 12 2008, 09:32 AM

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Is it true, people with blood type O is easier to get fat from carb than with people with other blood type ? I am blood type O smile.gif
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kurt, i m not very sure, but i have seen this kind of article, which is base on human's primitive bla bla bla. I m a O blood type, and extremely sensitive to carbs. So if i din follow the right timming for carbs, fat will be my good fren.
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O blood types store carbs as fat more quickly then other blood types? But that doesn't really make sense, why does blood type dictate carb metabolism? Why not other factors? Anybody have any leads on this?

Incidentally, I'm B -ve but I'm still fat as **** hahaha. Well, maybe not for long, since I started worshipping at the Temple of Steel aka gym.
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post Oct 12 2008, 08:10 PM

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My wife watched Medik TV. She told me the doctor said that blood type O are faster to get fat from carb, than other blood type. I dont know if my wife understand correctly smile.gif
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Oct 12 2008, 08:10 PM)
My wife watched Medik TV. She told me the doctor said that blood type O are faster to get fat from carb, than other blood type. I dont know if my wife understand correctly smile.gif
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Did the show specify O +ve/-ve or just generally O? Hmm this is interesting

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She dont mention about the +ve / -ve . But different blood type got different diet the Doctor inside medik TV said
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The effect of protein on the kidney is quite a contentious subject because of the many other nutritional factors involved. Additionally the age of a person also affects his kidney efficiency, besides the existing health of the kidney prior to starting protein augmentation.

There is no gradual impact on the kidney workings as the protein is ingested in higher amounts but there is a limit to this ceiling. This is the safe zone that may vary from person to person and therefore paying attention to reasonable protein ingestion is a prudent precaution.

Furthermore, the taking of too much protein does not necessarily help in muscle building as the kidney has a processing threshold (2-3 gm/hr), beyond this which the protein is just filtered in the kidney and expelled in the urine. Too much protein overloads the kidney, requiring it to work harder than necessary to mop up the creatine, albumin, urea & other protein by-products from the bloodstream. Additionally the liver strains in tandem to clear the nitrogen & urea. The intestine can only absorb 1-8 gm of amino acids / hr so spreading protein ingestion over a time period helps.
There are many types of protein and they place different requirements on the kidney. Eg whey protein places less stress on the kidney, milk protein a bit more, and meat protein even more; meaning that the kidney filtration rate has been measured to have increased in instances of different protein consumed. Soy protein is viewed quite favourably in being more gently to the kidneys. Generally, vegetarians have lower blood pressure due to the minimal protein in their diets.

AMERICAN JOURNAL OF KIDNEY DISEASES 'Studies on human subjects (usually without distinguishing the type of protein) indicate that the effects of dietary protein are minimal in nondiabetic patients with no renal injury..'

Diabetes causes kidney damage but if a person is not diabetic, it does not mean that he is exempted from kidney problems. A person without diabetes may also be susceptible to disturbances to the kidney function.

The key is being reasonable in consumption. A larger car may need more litres of engine oil, but overfilling the engine over the recommended level will overload its capability.




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