canned tuna is not junk food right? Why is HL Milk bad? even the low fat ones? then what type of milk is good? pls share i have been taking HL milk for a few months now..

btw, i'm planning to add dextrose to my PWO shake together with my whey to boost insulin spike. any comments/suggestions where to buy?

i guess i can live with a bit of damaged protein from canned tuna. we all cant prepare fresh foods all the time right? at least i cant

hmm.. so we should consume raw milk instead? where can get here? i thought fresh milk only can see in the movies where they deliver door2door.

glucose polymers? meaning more complex sugars like maltodextrin? sorry i'm quite new at this..

whaat seriously? i didnt know got indian guy who sells milk. must go hunt him down. i stay in damansara area. got meh? haha never knew.

i heard bout canned tuna having mercury and all too. thanks 4rings for your comments.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. nolah my mom said don buy from ah neh neh. dono wat they feed the cows and calves

i take 4 whole eggs at once sometimes for meals. put soy sauce pepper, scramble in a bowl and microwave. about cholesterol, no need to worry. here's an article abt cholesterol :

http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p125.htm

in the morning i take about 5-7 tbs of oats. sometimes i'm just too lazy to cook them i just blend and drink together with protein shake. haha. i think as long as u dont consume too much complex carbs after dinner should be okay. for dinner should start cutting on carbs and go more on fruits veges and protein. IMO

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Added on April 4, 2008, 3:41 amwhy u wanna lose weight? i'm abt your height and i wanna reach 75kg! i'm abt 70 plus now. just lift weights, build muscle and eat healthily. convert your belly to abs and fat to muscle. don't worry too much abt the numbers on the scale honestly.

This post has been edited by kege: Apr 4 2008, 03:41 AM

just make sure u eat healthy foods. carbs=rice, wholemeal bread, oatmeal, noodles; protein=eggs, chicken, beef, other meats, tuna, fish, whey; fats=peanut butter, healthy oils (which are usually in cod fish and salmon), egg yolk (dont worry abt taking too many, its healthy fats and cholesterol).

something like that. make sure every meal u get plenty of protein (maybe 20-30g if ure starting out) and carbs (if you're bulking). if u need to bump your calories even more, whack peanut butter with every meal. just make sure its not those high in saturated fats.

i follow your plan too. meals usually rice/noodles with meat/eggs. for snack usually i microwave eggs and eat bread, eat canned tuna with cheese... etc. up to u. make up your own recipe and be creative. just make sure ure eating enough protein (1g per lb of your bodyweight) and eat a big meal after your workout. that should ensure that u grow. but IMHO quite hard to eat 6 meals a day.. i did it on thursday but it was quite troublesome for me. haha. maybe u can prepare your own protein shakes to carry around so u can drink as snacks.

and up to u if u wanna get a mass gainer. i only have a whey supplement. for mass drinks i usually blend something like milk eggs whey peanut butter together. quite alot of everything and tastes quite good. good luck

yeah agreed. try getting a whey supplement if protein intake is a problem

4rings, wut do u think abt Milo as a source of carbs? i'm planning to stop taking milk and replace it with milo for flavor and texture.

(my old calorie shake was: 400ml HL milk, ~5-7 tbs quick cook oats, 2 tbs peanut butter, 1 scoop ON whey)

thanks in advance

yeah prob for flavoring and texture. hmmm oat milk i saw the ingredients same as normal milk la. cept they flavor it. goat milk harder to get. and why exactly is milo junk? sugar content? thx

okok thanks.. but i could do with the extra carbs since i'm bulking right now.. need to gain at least 5 more kgs

that's a good point. but i read that u need to carb load and whack carbs during the day to fuel your workouts + promote workout pumps? have been having trouble achieving the pump with several body parts, so thought i'd eat as much carbs as i can during the day. also heard taking salt promotes pumps. not satisfied with my workout progress nowadays, dont really feel complete after finishing a workout (muscles feel fatigued, somewhat a small pump but not really optimal). plus i'm an ectomorph so i thought i'd cut down on carbs if i see that i'm gaining too much fat. wuts caratino oil btw? thanks in advance.

thats some awesome info there 4rings! thanks so much. didnt know about the calcium thing. i read something like that about salt though. muscular contraction and what not. yeah the preexhaust thing sounds good. something like overdone warmup sets right?

one more thing, as u said earlier, carbs wont build 5lb of muscle but can build 5lb of fat. it doesn't apply the same to fats right? i'm eating quite a lot of peanut butter now. it's part of my calorie shake which i take for bfast and between meals if i have nothing else to eat. how much extra consumed fat will lead to body fat storage? or should i keep my fat to a minimum too? i see your diet u eat like a couple of tbs of oil to supplement your meat diet. can't imagine how that would keep you full without like a bowl of rice or something

thanks again, i'll definitely bookmark this

what type of health effects? btw i've heard of such a diet before. if u look it up on bb.com its called CHA diet by team scivation marc lobliner. i downloaded the pdf and it says that it needs some time to get used to cause your body will start to get sluggish as it's not used to getting energy from fats rather than carbs.

how abt glycogen stores and insulin spikes?

so in conclusion its safe to just maintain a low carb diet to get more ripped right? what other side effects would it include? i.e. sluggishness, ketosis, etc.

sorry for shooting so many questions. thanks again very much

awesome! no problem.. i'm just curious. yeah but i dont think i can stick to a <30g carb/day diet. i love fried rice, noodles and pastry too thanks a lot again. really cleared up a lot of confusion i had. btw are u a CPT or a nutritionist or something?

haha. try adding more protein and healthy fats (peanut butter, healthy oils etc) to your diet to bump up your calories. together with a solid workout program, your body should start gaining muscle. it's good that u can't get fat. people would kill to have that u know

looks all right.. according to 4Rings, it should take awhile before your body is able to use fat as energy. consuming carbs shud be fine as long as you burn them during workouts. try this for cardio:

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=...&oid=2204563631

good luck. btw, why don't u try eating nuts/healthy peanut butter when you're hungry ie at night?

serious?? i feel like whey is not filling at all. i can drink whey with water right before a meal and still chow like a monster

eggs are cheap source of protein

yeah its all right. i blend that all the time for bfast and in between meals

usually i have dinner right after though. if i workout in the morning, then lunch. if i workout in the afternoon and finish in the evening, chicken rice food court strategically located next to the gym