how one's get the feeling of full ? Do we feel full -

from the calories we take ?
from the chemical of the food ?
from the fat/carb/protein content ?
the quantity/volume of the food ?

when your belly is out of physical storage space i guess... ?

I heard that having a really fluffy milkshake and chiffon cake is good enough to make u full. So I'd go with how the stomach is able to store the food, and air.

hey..what is the ideal meal to take for a person to lose weight..u see..im kinda fat in my abs chest and backs..what would be recommended???

Lots and lots of exercise, and reading the thread you posted in.

losing fats actually..hehe!!!

try low carb diet.

so it must be low carbs??what if high calories??

Your calories consumed should not exceed your calories burned. Weight gain = calories consumed > calories burned.

oh..ok..i weight 160lbs..what will be the best intake of calorie??and im doing workout as well..

Guh, be like 300x more specific. Noone can tell you how many calories to consume daily if they don't know anything about what you're doing in your workouts and what you're eating now.
Post what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, all the inbetweens and your workout routines.

ok..my eating plan..2 types n i was thinking which will be the best..
morning-tuna n bread with some low fat mayo if possible..apple..
lunch-tuna bread again or have chicken rice outside due to work..
dinner i will try grab some rice with fishes,vege n meat on it..

if my work allows me to eat in between everything will be the same n in between morning n lunch i will have fruits n same goes to between lunch n dinner..fruits too..planing to take shakes once i wake up n before bed..

Morning tuna + bread
lunch ""
dinner rice and veggies and meat.
You say that you have two types of plans and are thinking of which will be the best, so is the above what you're actually doing now or what you're planning to do(I honestly can't tell if what you posted is actual or planned for future, maybe my comprehension skills suck or you need to better phrase your sentences... lol)?

1, 2, 3, 4 slices of bread? 1 bowl of rice?
What about your workout routine?


What kmaru and I have said is that you don't actually need to take protein supplements or creatine to achieve your goal of fat loss.
Meaning we don't think you should take protein supplements at this point in time to achieve your goal of fat loss.

but now i want to take protein shakes n i just need the viewers kind help..
-wholemeal bread with tuna(2 slices)
-lunch will be chicken rice/subway
-dinner rice vege n meat
that is one
-wholemeal bread with tuna n oats
-3 hours later hard boil eggs
-chicken rice o subway
-3 hours later fruits or nuts
-dinner rice,vege n meat..
this is two..my god read properly i said another is inbetween n another one is not...

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Added on August 24, 2008, 6:06 pmim planning to take shakes is because it can really boost up in protein needs..this is what i plan of in the future but im afraid if i can have those..so i might need proteins help...of course i will try my best to stick with a good meal...

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Added on August 24, 2008, 6:08 pmn dont worry..all in small quantity..1 bowl of rice..everything 1 maybe eggs i will have 2 or 3..try put in as much chicken or fish in my dinner n my chicken rice i will add more meat on it..try n reduce the rice amount..

This post has been edited by ryan_king: Aug 24 2008, 06:08 PM

Workout routine? What exercises do you do?

What makes you think that your protein needs in the future are going to increase? If you're getting into bodybuilding and are looking to put on 5-20kg's of muscle, then yeah, your body's protein needs are going to go up. But you're not getting into bodybuilding are you?

Since you're not actually eating all that much, I'm going to guess your workout routine is lacking and that's why you're not getting rid of the fat.

workout routine that is under my plan is to train biceps n backs,cardio,triceps n chest,cardio and shoulder n legs,cardio n rest..or upper body,lower body rest/cardio then upper body,lower body then rest for another two days or cardio in one of the day..all this i still need help from u guys whether is that ok with me or should i progress something different??

... You say biceps, back, cardio, triceps, etc... What exactly are you doing? Let's say for your chest, bench presses? Incline? Decline? Pushups?
How many sets and how many reps? Or cardio, running, jogging, walking, stepper machine, cycling, distance, resistance, speed?

Be specific.

do u know what is supersettings???i dont think i have to be that specific..its either u help or not..thats all..

Rofl, specifics are everything. But, since you're being difficult and I'm just not bothered enough to go back and forth over the same question 3-5 times each time, I'll just back out.

Just fyi though, when one says he works his chest, that means absolutely nothing. One's definition of work varies from person to person, one could define 3x5 pushups as chest work. That'd be as good as 1% of my workout but that might be 50% of his.

But, w/e what do I know. Good luck with that.

@ryan,

(this is my opinion, i'm not a professional nor have i done this)

if you want to lose fat, it's all in your cardio and diet.

diet: calories in < calories out. Eat more protein, less fat and carbs. keep your carbs low, but don't eliminate them. have more carbs for bfast and lunch, less/none for dinner. no carbs in between meals (except maybe before/after your workout). eat plenty of vegetables! veggies have lots of fiber and fill you up without much calories. make smart meal choices: chicken salad, tuna sandwich, steamed pak cham kai rice, beef noodles, etc. tuna in water, not tuna in mayo. no low fat food nonsense, go for real food since low fat food is probably loaded with sugar. eat small meals, eat on time, dont starve. no carbs after 6pm.

cardio: up to you, but ideally start with brisk walking, jogging, cycling, any cardio equipment. Then progress to maybe HIIT or increase your cardio speed, do sprinting, sports... etc. keep yourself active. try to cardio all out (test your stamina) once in awhile. do cardio often. slow walk fast walk JUST DO IT. at least 3 times a week.

i'm getting fat. i should walk the talk. haha

btw i hope that helps cheers