Ooops....sorry. I missed out "don't". It supposed to be I don't understand......

haha. i thought u said u weren't going to post here anymore? anyway glad u're still here sharing your knowledge with us

since milk in the supermarket is not so good.....hw about the indian guys who sells raw milk its good rite and how is the lactose content in this type of milk (raw milk)?

ooops I see nearly all product is processed. so, look for low lactose means low carb. I dont plan to eat whey right now. My source of protein now is egg, chicken, meat, fish. Now drinking 1x250ml HL milk every morning or night. I can see the carb count there is only 11g I dont look at the lactose content btw. If lactose also is in the ingredient, so must add the lactose to the carb for total carb count ?

Lactose is a type of carbohydrate lah. Not indicated on the labels.

Total carb count already include lactose.

Cannot "Kin Sei Pat Kau" (See Die No Help).


Raw milk is good. It contains all the nutrients present in milk. Pasteurisation destroyed some of the important nutrients and also altered the chemical structure of milk. Just like eating magarine. Better not to criticize too much. There are many pasteurised milk supporters here. I don't wanna get assassinated by one of them.

Haha. True. Its like trying to compare Mother's Milk with powdered milk. We may debate the fact that powdered milk for babies is great cuz of nutrients and all.

but natural milk is the real deal, real health. Still, I wonder how raw cow's milk taste though. Don't really favor the vanilla taste on HL (that's what i feel tho).

hey guys, i', on my way to start my own diet. i'm thinking of diet that can cut down my body fat and at the same time, building up some mass. is it doable?

my initial plan is;
breakfast @ 7.00am: 3 or 4 half-boiled eggs(whole eggs)
morning snack @ 9.30am : rolled oats + whey + a slice of fresh fruits
lunch @ 12.00pm : normal rice, vege, meat
afternoon snack @ 3.00pm : rolled oats + whey + raisins
dinner @ 6.00pm (preworkout meal) : normal rice, vege, meat
######workout at 8.30pm to 10.00pm#########
post workout @ 10pm : 2 scoop of whey protein shake
pre bedtime @ 11pm: 1 scoop of whey protein shake with peanut butter

is it okay to plan like this? please comment and help me to improve. thanks a bunch people

No preworkout whey?

erhm.. should i?

i'm thinking to cook my own dinner soon. as usual, dinner served as my pre workout meal too. i'm thinking to cook a few pieces of chicken breast, with steamed brocolli, carrots, and potatoes. is it okay? am i lacking of good fats?

See my comments in BLUE. U are taking like 4 scoops of whey a day, which is 400kcal extra apart from your normal food. I don't think what you are eating is cutting. Too much carbs throughout ur meals and snack. It is tough to get used to eating lesser but take more fruits if u are really hungry, take apple as it has lower GI. But do not take too much of these at night as it has sugar too oh:). just my 2 cents, i may be wrong. It is up to you to try it out yourself.

the point is, if i were to reduce so much carbs, am i able to grow? my goal is not just cut, but to build muscles too.

i think most of the forum members here recommend 2 scoop of whey for post workout. that's why i'm following that advice.

fruits have simple sugar, and is apple considered low GI carbs?

i need more input/insight in my initial diets..

yeah u definitely need carbs as u need the str, just try to reduce the carbs throughout the day. Take carbs for pre-workout.
Apple if not mistaken is lo/medium.

breakfast: eggs + rolled oats + 1 tblsp oil
morning snack: whey + fruits + 1 tsp oil
noon snack: whey + fruits + 1 tsp oil
post WO and pre bed is too short time.

FYI, carbs don't build muscles.

Apple consist of lots of glycogen that serves an immediate carb. good for post workout when u need the energy for it. I take 2 at office before lunch though.

raw milk taste goooood
this is what kids now days going through....we dont see cows in the first place
need to see cows through national geography channel

find if any indian guys on bike selling milk in your area



This post has been edited by lcsum: Jul 11 2008, 11:42 PM

breakfast - wholemeal bread, 1 scoop whey, 2 raw eggs, 2 tbs peanut butter
lunch - rice/noodles, meat
preworkout/snack - 4 egg omellete + 2 slices wholemeal bread
post workout - 2 scoop whey + 1 scoop dex
dinner - same as lunch, maybe bigger portions
supper - 1 scoop whey, 2 raw eggs, 2 tbs peanut butter

wanna seek advice.I normally finish my workout by 10pm. Post workout will be 1 scoop whey+HL milk.
So i normally will took 3 whole hard boil egg by 11pm and normally sleep by 12am.
So i just wanna know any harm having 3 whole egg near to bedtime?Will it fully digest then?or will store as fat if it isn't???(do eggs contain carb by the way?)
TQ

post workout is how long after workout??immediately??

eggs have nearly zero carbs. don't worry about getting fat eating eggs near bed time. u can google "egg nutritional value" and see for yourself. hope that helps